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9 minutes ago, tucky89 said:

Who do y'all got if Bama played the Raiders? Or last year's Browns? Some reddit discussions have tried to argue the best college team could hang with the worst nfl team.

It would not even be a fun game to watch.  The 17 Browns or the '18 Raiders would beat Bama the same way they beat up on teams like LA-Lafayette and Miss State.

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the worst NFL team still has the better, faster, stronger guys from college. And the studs on that NFL team are light years beyond the best college players. 
Just look at how hard of an adjustment it is for some players when they move up to the pros. 

 

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i could see a college all star team having a chance against the raiders or last years browns

 

remember they used to have those games every year and usually the pros won, but the college team did win a few.  alabama would be a stretch to beat either, but the raiders are really bad right now

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30 minutes ago, The Fish said:

This is one of those litmus tests for how well an individual understands what they're looking at. Alabama wouldn't beat any pro team, no matter how bad. If they played 10 times, Bama might win one and it would be flukey.

 

This!!!!!!!

 

Thanks to The Fish for nailing this. 

 

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11 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

i could see a college all star team having a chance against the raiders or last years browns

 

remember they used to have those games every year and usually the pros won, but the college team did win a few.  alabama would be a stretch to beat either, but the raiders are really bad right now

 

^that's the only way a college team would have any chance against an NFL team.  Comprise the all star team of juniors and seniors only and they may not get shalacked too badly.  But any regular college team is going to have depth players that are freshmen and sophomores who's bodies simply could not take hits from an NFL player.  

 

Imagine a freshman WR running across the middle and getting hit by an NFL safety or heaven-forbid a LB?  You'd have to have multiple ambulances on hand.

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It’s not really fair because Bama has lots of players who stay for 2 years then enter the draft. They have much more turnover with their stars than any NFL team. 

That being said, I think if you hypothetically took their best players over a 3-4 year period then They’d smash a team like the raiders or Bills. I don’t think Tua would have a problem with the raiders defense. 

I also think if there was a rookie all star team they could compete with anyone after they develop team chemistry and get adjusted to playing in the NFL. 

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19 hours ago, aaron11 said:

i could see a college all star team having a chance against the raiders or last years browns

 

remember they used to have those games every year and usually the pros won, but the college team did win a few.  alabama would be a stretch to beat either, but the raiders are really bad right now

 

The Nfl champs won about 3 out of every 4 vs college stars.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_College_All-Star_Game

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19 hours ago, Luck 4 president said:

I also think if there was a rookie all star team they could compete with anyone after they develop team chemistry and get adjusted to playing in the NFL. 

i doubt they could beat the saints or patriots, but an all rookie squad could probably embarrass several teams right now.

 

any team that struggles against the run could be in trouble facing barkley behind a surprisingly good rookie oline group.  the defense would be interesting too, they probably give up some yards, but they have a lot of play makers 

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20 hours ago, NorthernBlue said:

How many NFL calibre players are on Bama? Like 8?

 

Oakland and Cleveland got.......53. They would kill Alabama.

 

Heck a CFL team would probably beat em.

 

Yeah, people have to understand that the Raiders and Bills look bad against "NFL teams". Plus, the pride factor would most certainly elevate their game, if challenged.

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All-NFL worst players of all time would slaughter the best college team of all time 100-0 if they really wanted to. Just as some perspective for the OP...here's what an all-NFL bust team would look like on top of my head.

 

(I'm not putting a lot of time in this post, am on the road).

 

QB - RG3, Christian Hackenburg

RB - Trent Richardson, Josh Robinson

 

DE - Tarell Basham

DT - Montori Hughes

DT - Josh Chapman

DE - Bjoern Werner

 

OLB - Kamalei Korrea

MLB - Antonio Morrison

OLB - Tyus Bowser, Derek Rivers

 

S - TJ Green

CB - D'Joun Smith

 

Combine that team with a bunch of 5-year olds, that would destroy any NCAA team.

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23 hours ago, NorthernBlue said:

How many NFL calibre players are on Bama? Like 8?

 

Oakland and Cleveland got.......53. They would kill Alabama.

 

Heck a CFL team would probably beat em.

I’m sure they have 30+ guys on their roster right now who will make it to the nfl. They have 8-12 players drafted every year with a few udfa, but lots of players aren’t eligible to enter the draft yet. They probably have 12+ Future first rounders on their roster too. 

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1 hour ago, Luck 4 president said:

I’m sure they have 30+ guys on their roster right now who will make it to the nfl. They have 8-12 players drafted every year with a few udfa, but lots of players aren’t eligible to enter the draft yet. They probably have 12+ Future first rounders on their roster too. 

But they only got 8-12 players who are ready for the NFL right now. Those other guys are a few years away.

 

If you took the best of the best in college, aka just a bunch of future first round picks and pitted them against an NFL team, the talent would be there. But the NFL guys are also more refined, stronger, faster, and also like...better at football than college guys. 

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27 minutes ago, NorthernBlue said:

But they only got 8-12 players who are ready for the NFL right now. Those other guys are a few years away.

 

If you took the best of the best in college, aka just a bunch of future first round picks and pitted them against an NFL team, the talent would be there. But the NFL guys are also more refined, stronger, faster, and also like...better at football than college guys. 

The college all stars used to play pro teams up till 1973. The college all stars did win 9 of those games so it's not out of the realm that college players could win a game against the pros.

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8 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

The college all stars used to play pro teams up till 1973. The college all stars did win 9 of those games so it's not out of the realm that college players could win a game against the pros.

Sure of course when the talent is there anything is possible but pros are pros and would win most of the time anyways.

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8 minutes ago, NorthernBlue said:

Sure of course when the talent is there anything is possible but pros are pros and would win most of the time anyways.

The college players won 9 times and had 2 ties while the pros had 31 wins and 2 ties.

That is a higher percentage than you might think. Believe it of not those games drew some pretty hefty crowds in Chicago,  Some of the earlier games drew over 100,000 people and the last one drew over 52,000.

 

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3 hours ago, NorthernBlue said:

But they only got 8-12 players who are ready for the NFL right now. Those other guys are a few years away.

 

If you took the best of the best in college, aka just a bunch of future first round picks and pitted them against an NFL team, the talent would be there. But the NFL guys are also more refined, stronger, faster, and also like...better at football than college guys. 

They have 8-12 who are ready and eligible, but they have lots of guys who are ready just not eligible because they haven’t played enough years in NCAA. Like Tua Tagovailoa would go #1 in next year’s draft, but he isn’t eligible until the 2020 draft. So that 8-12 isn’t really accurate. 

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