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I actually don't know how he's doing on Jax, but I would of signed Norwell for a million or two extra a year than he got on their team. I would of drafted Nelson, Leonard (best friend told me about him before day 2), and took Josh Jackson CB instead of Braden Smith. I would of also taken Derrius Guice instead of Turay, and then someone else besides Wilkins down the line as I knew about Hines and not Wilkins. Definitely would of signed Ebron as well, and probably would of went after Allen Robinson with our receiver problem as I think he'd of been better with Luck.

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It doesn't matter who the fans would have signed because we don't even know which free agents Ballard pursued and didn't get.

 

Players choose certain teams over others for different reasons and fans can't just sit and complain because the player went elsewhere.

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I would have gone all in on Khalil Mack and given him what he wanted. 

After that, I would have gone after either Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson, to give Andrew Luck one more reliable WR.

 

We have a s*** ton of money which could have been spend on such signings, and a player like Khalil Mack is one you could build a defence around.

He's a leader both on and off the field, BUT Indianapolis is not a big market, which make it nearly impossible to sign a big time free agent.

 

Next year, we should be in the race for Le'Veon Bell, DeMarcus Lawrance, Jadeveon Clowney and Anthony Barr, But the possibility for signing just one of such big time and young free agents can be very difficult, due to the small market as Indy is compared to other teams location.

 

Indy is not sexy compared to LA, New York or teams located in Florida.

So, Andrew Luck needs to be near 100% all season and CB needs to show them the money, to lure them to Indy.

 

WE ARE NO WEAR NEAR BEING A CONTENDER, to be honest, so Chris Ballard really needs to hit the jackpot both in free agency and in the draft. 

 

But something needs to happen next offseason, if not... well... then its time for some crazy miracle to happen if Andrew Luck shall ever win a super bowl ring during his time in Indianapolis.

 

I do believe he still believes he can win in Indy, but if Chris Ballard don't spend some big time money in free agency next year... then I can see Andrew Luck loose faith and start thinking on his future in Indy. 

 

Brady wont play forever, and when Lucks current contract is up... New England might need a new QB and our worst fear could become a reality.

 

So If I were the GM... I would start spending big time in free agency, to maximize the possibility for Andrew Luck to win a super bowl. Right now... we are miles away from anything that could look like being a contending team.

 

And remember, Kansas City, La Rams, Da Bears and soon the New York Jets could become the new dominating teams in the league, and they are fine at their QB. 

 

The only thing I see as a positive thing, is that no other team in the AFC South have a big time QB.

Watson could become one, but after his injury, he has lost a lot of his magic juice he had last season.

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We could of brought any big name free agent in this last off season and we would not of been any better than we are now. Not only that, but in a couple years when they didnt do anything here, they would be gone along with the money we spent. Then the fans would be saying we shouldnt of gotten them and should of gotten someone else.

 

Ballard is doing just fine. It's just gonna take some time. Be patient and enjoy the ride.

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3 minutes ago, coltfaninnewyork said:

Hopefully a healthy luck and lots of money will entice free agents .that we can contend 

Doubt it.  Indy is quickly moving back to NFL Siberia status, the status it held prior to Peyton.  Two 8-8 seasons, followed by two(?) 4-12 seasons will do that.

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For next year I'd make the draft almost exclusively O and D line and throw the spending money at WR/CB/RB. But I don't know anything about who's a FA next year.

 

I don't think it can be stressed enough (simply by looking at our lines) how much depth is needed on both lines when injuries strike.

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Yes, I'm that guy. 

It is annoying though I agree. If you're gonna start something... Start it right.. Lol

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You have a franchise QB and play in a league where the QB can no longer be touched, where receivers can no longer be touched.  Surround him with high quality weapons, Polian-style.  Not a lot of smashmouth teams at the top of the league these days.  

 

 

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I think the signing of Eric Ebron was great. He is young and can grow with the team. I'm all for more signings like this.

 

1. I would have tried to address the RB position with Carlos Hyde, a young RB that can grow with the team. By signing Hyde, it would have freed up a draft pick to be used on a position other than RB (Wilkins).

 

2. I would have tried to go after Albert Wilson instead of Grant.

 

3. I would have put serious thought into going after Allen Robinson. He's very young and talented, and the big bodied WR that we would've needed.

 

4. On defense, I would have looked to add better starting caliber DBs. We have a below average group of DBs and we knew that going into the season. Why it was not addressed is beyond me.

 

These moves would have kept us young, and not broken the bank at all, and most importantly, would have made us a better football team.

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21 minutes ago, ThorstenDenmark said:

I would have gone all in on Khalil Mack and given him what he wanted. 

After that, I would have gone after either Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson, to give Andrew Luck one more reliable WR.

 

We have a s*** ton of money which could have been spend on such signings, and a player like Khalil Mack is one you could build a defence around.

He's a leader both on and off the field, BUT Indianapolis is not a big market, which make it nearly impossible to sign a big time free agent.

 

Next year, we should be in the race for Le'Veon Bell, DeMarcus Lawrance, Jadeveon Clowney and Anthony Barr, But the possibility for signing just one of such big time and young free agents can be very difficult, due to the small market as Indy is compared to other teams location.

 

Indy is not sexy compared to LA, New York or teams located in Florida.

So, Andrew Luck needs to be near 100% all season and CB needs to show them the money, to lure them to Indy.

 

WE ARE NO WEAR NEAR BEING A CONTENDER, to be honest, so Chris Ballard really needs to hit the jackpot both in free agency and in the draft. 

 

But something needs to happen next offseason, if not... well... then its time for some crazy miracle to happen if Andrew Luck shall ever win a super bowl ring during his time in Indianapolis.

 

I do believe he still believes he can win in Indy, but if Chris Ballard don't spend some big time money in free agency next year... then I can see Andrew Luck loose faith and start thinking on his future in Indy. 

 

Brady wont play forever, and when Lucks current contract is up... New England might need a new QB and our worst fear could become a reality.

 

So If I were the GM... I would start spending big time in free agency, to maximize the possibility for Andrew Luck to win a super bowl. Right now... we are miles away from anything that could look like being a contending team.

 

And remember, Kansas City, La Rams, Da Bears and soon the New York Jets could become the new dominating teams in the league, and they are fine at their QB. 

 

The only thing I see as a positive thing, is that no other team in the AFC South have a big time QB.

Watson could become one, but after his injury, he has lost a lot of his magic juice he had last season.

I agree and I would make some trades and acquire a star player or two before they hit FA.  Then we control their rights and we have the cap space to keep them as Colts.  Bell and Cooper come to mind of course.  It's a shame they passed on Mack. 

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1 hour ago, love the shoe said:

We need a number 1 receiver period  I dnt see ty as a number one , a number two maybe but not a one ,a number one is a Reggie type in my opinion m sure handed go to guy

Ty has proven he is a number one.   Year in and year out.      I'm ask for upgrading the position,   but don't act like TY can't take over a game

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1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Everyone has been critical of Ballard and his lack of acquiring free agents this off season and the draft.  What free agents would u have re signed and/or  signed and who would u have drafted?

I think Ballard was smart enuff to know (and he has stated as much) that the team wouldnt be "fixed" this past offseason and draft.  There is as just too much to do.  And he's still learning what existing players are capable of.   Add new coaches and schemes, and now he has to get familiar with their scheme needs and player fits.

  I think he's improved this team and thru the draft, especially the most recent one.  I think the existing young players ate being evaluated, and Ballard, Reich, etc are , and will continue to evaluate and discuss our roster needs.

  I believe Ballard will again attack the draft aggressively and we will see some FAs that fit, fill needs, and bring some leadership.

  We're moving there.  It seens slower than we'd like.  However its a very difficult task to plug a guy into a new team and environment.  It seems like most never live up to expectations.  And to tie up that cap money on that big of a risk can set a roster back in a hurry.

  It appears we've improved the OL and DL.  Injuries gave set back their progress, but it seems they are improved.

i am pleasantly surprised/impressed with #50 and #53.  REALLY excited about them.

  The injuries all across the board have thrown young guys into the fray early and have shown our lack of depth.  But we knew depth was an issue going in.

  Injuries everywhere have clouded any real evaluations overall but i think its clear we need to focus on several areas.

OT, CB, WR are top priority

RB,SS, DE,DL 2nd level

 

in my humble opinion,of course 

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37 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

2. I would have tried to go after Albert Wilson instead of Grant.

 

3. I would have put serious thought into going after Allen Robinson. He's very young and talented, and the big bodied WR that we would've needed.

 

I like #2, but I was surprised Wilson got 3 years, $24m. I figure Ballard was in touch with Wilson at some point, being from KC. Grant was a late addition, after his deal with the Ravens fell through, so probably wasn't our first choice. But he got one year, $5m. 

 

I was never interested in Allen Robinson, especially not at $14m/year. I don't think he's that good to begin with, and then he was coming off of an ACL injury. To this point, he's been about as productive as Grant and Rogers.

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Easy to say what we should've done. How about what we do from here. #1 I would bring in all veteran WRs under age of 30 in for a tryout. Sign 1. Next draft if there is a Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss type of WR available draft them in the 1st otherwise get the best Tackle. Than BPA after that and get need picks from 4th on.

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1. I'd draft with our 1st either a CB, OT or DL not in any particular order.

2. Sign WR Devin Funchess from Carolina. He's a big WR and is having a very good season.

3. Add a veteran RB such as TJ Yeldon from Jax. He has played reasonably well 300 yds rush and over 200 rec. with 4 TDs.

4. Sign Ronald Darby CB Philly

5. Sign either DEs Frank Clark or Quiton Jefferson from Seattle. Both get a lot of pressure on the QBs.

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3 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Everyone has been critical of Ballard and his lack of acquiring free agents this off season and the draft.  What free agents would u have re signed and/or  signed and who would u have drafted?

I would have thrown more of our copious cap to either Norwell or Jensen allowing us to trade down from #6 for more high draft picks and fill the roster with better players faster.  I don't see where giving those Gs as much money as it took would have prevented us from resigning what ever of "our own" we want to resign when the time comes. 

 

As far as draft:  assuming we'd get BUFFS #12 and #22, I would have reached to take Isiah Wynn for the other G spot (since the guy I wanted at 12, OT McGlinchy, was gone) (Wynn is now out with a torn achillies BTW) and either ILB Rashaan Evans or WR Calvin Ridley at 22.  I targeted Leonard so I would have taken him since he was there at 36, then probably one of the tall corners.  I would still be left with pick 49 and can't say what I would have done from there.

 

The Colts would have:  Norwell or Jensen at one G spot and Isiah Wynn at the other, but prolly Haeg/ Glowinski since Wynn is on IR (but maybe doesn't tear his achillies under different circumstances?).  Instead, the Colts have Nelson and Smith at Gs.

 

Would have Evans at LB, and one of the tall corners.  Or Ridley at WR and one of the tall corners. And would still have Leonard.

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15 hours ago, Matabix said:

Easy to say what we should've done. How about what we do from here. #1 I would bring in all veteran WRs under age of 30 in for a tryout. Sign 1. Next draft if there is a Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss type of WR available draft them in the 1st otherwise get the best Tackle. Than BPA after that and get need picks from 4th on.

n'keal harry is 6'4, and he's my favorite WR

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16 hours ago, DougDew said:

I would have thrown more of our copious cap to either Norwell or Jensen allowing us to trade down from #6 for more high draft picks and fill the roster with better players faster.  I don't see where giving those Gs as much money as it took would have prevented us from resigning what ever of "our own" we want to resign when the time comes. 

 

As far as draft:  assuming we'd get BUFFS #12 and #22, I would have reached to take Isiah Wynn for the other G spot (since the guy I wanted at 12, OT McGlinchy, was gone) (Wynn is now out with a torn achillies BTW) and either ILB Rashaan Evans or WR Calvin Ridley at 22.  I targeted Leonard so I would have taken him since he was there at 36, then probably one of the tall corners.  I would still be left with pick 49 and can't say what I would have done from there.

 

The Colts would have:  Norwell or Jensen at one G spot and Isiah Wynn at the other, but prolly Haeg/ Glowinski since Wynn is on IR (but maybe doesn't tear his achillies under different circumstances?).  Instead, the Colts have Nelson and Smith at Gs.

 

Would have Evans at LB, and one of the tall corners.  Or Ridley at WR and one of the tall corners. And would still have Leonard.

 

I would have taken that trade back as well. But I would have gone after Edmunds, James or LVE. Could have double-dipped on OL in the 2nd round AND still had an extra pick to work with.

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5 hours ago, shastamasta said:

 

I would have taken that trade back as well. But I would have gone after Edmunds, James or LVE. Could have double-dipped on OL in the 2nd round AND still had an extra pick to work with.

I wanted Leonard at 36 or 37 before the draft, so I would have gone OL in the first.  After Nelson, I think there were two more sure thing starting Gs taken in the 1st.  Wynn and Frank Ragnow. 

 

I would have taken the trade down to target McGlinchy , but would have taken the G at 12 after McG went at 9.  And I honestly would have taken Evans over Ridley at 22 (I didn't even think much about Ridley since I saw him as a WR1) and be kicking myself now given our WR situation.

 

Norwell/Jensen, Wynn, Evans, Leonard, corner, and still pick 49.  I didn't care for the Turay pick at the time, but I'm warming up to him more.

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On 10/15/2018 at 8:32 PM, Superman said:

What's the deal with Kevin White in Chicago?

I know they didn't pick up his 5th year option.  I'd really like to see him come this way, he's waiting for his turn behind Anthony Miller, who is down with a left dislocated shoulder, but showing he played and had one catch for 29 vs. miami.  He didnt play vs. Tampa Bay and then they had the bye and then played miami.  Haven't seen White play at all.

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On 10/16/2018 at 1:07 AM, ThorstenDenmark said:

I would have gone all in on Khalil Mack and given him what he wanted. 

After that, I would have gone after either Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson, to give Andrew Luck one more reliable WR.

 

We have a s*** ton of money which could have been spend on such signings, and a player like Khalil Mack is one you could build a defence around.

He's a leader both on and off the field, BUT Indianapolis is not a big market, which make it nearly impossible to sign a big time free agent.

 

Next year, we should be in the race for Le'Veon Bell, DeMarcus Lawrance, Jadeveon Clowney and Anthony Barr, But the possibility for signing just one of such big time and young free agents can be very difficult, due to the small market as Indy is compared to other teams location.

 

Indy is not sexy compared to LA, New York or teams located in Florida.

So, Andrew Luck needs to be near 100% all season and CB needs to show them the money, to lure them to Indy.

 

WE ARE NO WEAR NEAR BEING A CONTENDER, to be honest, so Chris Ballard really needs to hit the jackpot both in free agency and in the draft. 

 

But something needs to happen next offseason, if not... well... then its time for some crazy miracle to happen if Andrew Luck shall ever win a super bowl ring during his time in Indianapolis.

 

I do believe he still believes he can win in Indy, but if Chris Ballard don't spend some big time money in free agency next year... then I can see Andrew Luck loose faith and start thinking on his future in Indy. 

 

Brady wont play forever, and when Lucks current contract is up... New England might need a new QB and our worst fear could become a reality.

 

So If I were the GM... I would start spending big time in free agency, to maximize the possibility for Andrew Luck to win a super bowl. Right now... we are miles away from anything that could look like being a contending team.

 

And remember, Kansas City, La Rams, Da Bears and soon the New York Jets could become the new dominating teams in the league, and they are fine at their QB. 

 

The only thing I see as a positive thing, is that no other team in the AFC South have a big time QB.

Watson could become one, but after his injury, he has lost a lot of his magic juice he had last season.

Hate to ride a fellow Euro, but that post has more crap in it than a very very big container full of crap. That, or than in Skip Bayless's mouth. Sorry, just a wee bit too dramatic. 

 

Apart from the Mack bit. Fully agree on that.

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On 10/15/2018 at 4:59 PM, Jared Cisneros said:

I actually don't know how he's doing on Jax, but I would of signed Norwell for a million or two extra a year than he got on their team. I would of drafted Nelson, Leonard (best friend told me about him before day 2), and took Josh Jackson CB instead of Braden Smith. I would of also taken Derrius Guice instead of Turay, and then someone else besides Wilkins down the line as I knew about Hines and not Wilkins. Definitely would of signed Ebron as well, and probably would of went after Allen Robinson with our receiver problem as I think he'd of been better with Luck.

 

Doesn’t sound like the Jags are getting what they paid for in Norwell.

 

https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20180928/success-is-taking-time-for-jaguars-lineman-andrew-

 

And didn’t Guice blow his ACL?

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If I were Ballard in March 2018, I would do just the same: wait and see. It sounds crazy, but with all Luck's situation best approach was and is is to get good players, who can't win games, but can help win games. OL&DL in first place, TE&LB second. If Luck is good to go - draft and sign playmakers at WR, RB, CB positions. If Luck is done - draft his replacement and start from the very beginning.

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14 minutes ago, GoatBeard said:

I would stay patient, and I would feel pretty good about what Ive done so far. I wanted to improve the fronts on both sides of the ball, and I have done that. Rome wasnt built in a day.

 

Im also working the phones trying to aquire Amari Cooper. 

 

I’m honestly not feeling the Amari Cooper hype, & the Raiders want a high pick for him.

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