Something is wrong with luck.....

[AZColt11]

13 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Right now, Luck is getting off to the same slow starts in the first quarter as 2016, except he's playing much worse later in the games than 2016. He's obviously injured, and it's possible he will never get back to 100%. I believe we missed the boat on any sort of trade value for him. It's sink or swim with him. This is one of those situations where I'm highly upset I have to leave the decision making to someone else. I thrive on the control. I want to be in charge. I want to lead the team. Such a helpless feeling seeing Luck perform like a undrafted QB. I'm giving it one more game before passing judgment, but I feel we made a huge mistake keeping Luck. Watching him underperform is torturous at this point and it hurts my heart seeing him fail as a Colts fan.

Hmmm.  Normally I agree with most of your takes, but this one......I think it's just more to do with Luck being out of football for > a year.  Give it more time dude and step away from the ledge.  Luck will improve.

[Yoshinator]

2 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Hmmm.  Normally I agree with most of your takes, but this one......I think it's just more to do with Luck being out of football for > a year.  Give it more time dude and step away from the ledge.  Luck will improve.

It probably has to do with Football being a once a week sport. In baseball or basketball, you get to see a new result almost every day and build new high or low emotions based on how your team does. In Football, we have to wait a week, and the previous result lingers for that week. I'll give it a little more time, but it doesn't help that I think about it every day and Luck can't play another game for a week. It isn't Madden where if I lose a game, I can immediately play another to try and make up for that loss or poor effort. 

[AZColt11]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

It probably has to do with Football being a once a week sport. In baseball or basketball, you get to see a new result almost every day and build new high or low emotions based on how your team does. In Football, we have to wait a week, and the previous result lingers for that week. I'll give it a little more time, but it doesn't help that I think about it every day and Luck can't play another game for a week. It isn't Madden where if I lose a game, I can immediately play another to try and make up for that loss or poor effort. 

Yeah I get it.  Too much time to ponder thing, right?  I think if we get toward the back end of the season and it still looks like the light isn't going on THEN we might start to wonder.  I don't think Wentz looked terribly impressive yesterday either, and he's played in the last year at least.  He had some nice escape-artist throws, but other than that just so-so IMHO.  It takes time.  Game time is a LOT different than practice time obviously.  You simply can't simulate the pressure you face in games and it takes a while to adjust, even for a vet.

[Yoshinator]

4 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Yeah I get it.  Too much time to ponder thing, right?  I think if we get toward the back end of the season and it still looks like the light isn't going on THEN we might start to wonder.  I don't think Wentz looked terribly impressive yesterday either, and he's played in the last year at least.  He had some nice escape-artist throws, but other than that just so-so IMHO.  It takes time.  Game time is a LOT different than practice time obviously.  You simply can't simulate the pressure you face in games and it takes a while to adjust, even for a vet.

All I can say is, if Luck does return to full health or close to it, we will be a very good team. We are starting to fill some holes, and next's years draft gives us 9 more picks (an extra 2nd and 4th). Brissett is nice insurance as well. Just have to hope for the best, and root for the young players for now. Leonard may be our best player on the entire team when the season is over.

 

Thanks for the pep talk. I needed it. 

[Mr.NotSoCreative]

On 9/23/2018 at 6:32 PM, oldunclemark said:

I was very encouraged today.....The Eagles are simply better than we are especially in the 0-line and on defense..

…….Luck did all he could against a strong defense.

I still think we're a playoff team

I agree  that we are a playoff team, with the way our D is playing. Disagree on the oline and defense though. We were the ones with 5 sacks and 2 turnovers, not them. I dont think we allowed a sack till the last 4th and goal play. Luck was not sharp. His stats were mostly not very good but could be skewed because he was also handed a very short field on a few drives. The results from that excellent field position is the difference in the game. Vinny needs to be kicking more 35 yarders for only one point.

[needanoline63]

On 9/23/2018 at 4:25 PM, ColtsLegacy said:

He had absolutely 0 chemistry with Ebron today.

Ebron dropped a TD and so did that bum Chester Rogers 

[DougDew]

As I said a few pages ago, Luck looks fine to me.  He was doing what we all wanted him to do, release the ball quicker to avoid punishment, and in doing so, he released it a bit quicker than he would if he was totally set.  To me, he looked rushed and hurried because the Oline couldn't keep the Eagles off of him for even three step drops.

 

And they sat on the short routes because they knew Luck had no time to throw it long.  It was the pressure, not his arm strength, that prevented longer patterns.  JMO.

[RollerColt]

11 minutes ago, DougDew said:

As I said a few pages ago, Luck looks fine to me.  He was doing what we all wanted him to do, release the ball quicker to avoid punishment, and in doing so, he released it a bit quicker than he would if he was totally set.  To me, he looked rushed and hurried because the Oline couldn't keep the Eagles off of him for even three step drops.

 

And they sat on the short routes because they knew Luck had no time to throw it long.  It was the pressure, not his arm strength, that prevented longer patterns.  JMO.

Yep. And it made matters worse when Joe Haeg went down. I felt like the game plan immediately changed once that happened. 

[r a y s k i]

For those who question Luck's arm strength

 

https://twitter.com/JoshBoeke/status/1044407635699617792

[GusFring]

4 hours ago, needanoline63 said:

Ebron dropped a TD and so did that bum Chester Rogers 

Ebron definitely dropped it, but are you talking about the ball Chester had to jump for? 

[IcyRhythms]

People panic after three games.

 

I've seen it all in this thread.

 

Patriots are terrible and "the hoodie will be gone exposing Josh McDaniels"

Luck's arm appears to be injured

It's sink or swim for the Colts now

We should have traded for Luck when he had more value

 

LMAO

 

Relax. If this is still a team with only 2 or 3 wins past the half way point NEXT season, then we can have some discussions about some of these things. It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to early for some of these hot takes. There are some very interesting hot takes in here. lol

[The Fish]

40 minutes ago, IcyRhythms said:

 

 

Relax. If this is still a team with only 2 or 3 wins past the half way point NEXT season, then we can have some discussions about some of these things. It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to early for some of these hot takes. There are some very interesting hot takes in here. lol

This is probably true, but it's kind of hard to not react to what we're seeing in real time. In reality, it's not fair to expect Luck to be 110% at this point or rather, totally polished. And it's certainly not as if anyone thought the D would be anything and it is. Patience isn't easy, but that's probably what's required. My guess is that there's still a degree of Grigson-shock in the fan base and here and people don't want to ignore potential issues, because seemingly every red flag was realized with Grigson. Imagine an issue and he didn't resolve it and us fans went bonkers watching it unfold. 

[coltsfeva]

  The thing that gives me hope about Luck is how Brees did after what I believe was the same surgery. 

   There’s no denying Andrew needs time to get back to where he was (or possibly better). 

    Maybe most of the issue (of having to throw short), has more to do with Castonzo, Good and Doyle being out and with scheme than Andrew’s arm, I don’t know. We shall see. He might end up being fine.

[deedub75]

15 minutes ago, coltsfeva said:

  The thing that gives me hope about Luck is how Brees did after what I believe was the same surgery. 

   There’s no denying Andrew needs time to get back to where he was (or possibly better). 

    Maybe most of the issue (of having to throw short), has more to do with Castonzo, Good and Doyle being out and with scheme than Andrew’s arm, I don’t know. We shall see. He might end up being fine.

 

I hope you’re right.  What concerns me is that he hasn’t uncorked it one time yet. When the play breaks down and he’s out of the pocket he’s immediately looking for the check down. He’s not even looking deep.