Ballard is not impressing me.....

[crazycolt1]

38 minutes ago, #12. said:

Ballard's and competition - all talk, apparently.  In fact, it seems the quickest way off the team is to actually show something on the field - Simon, Melvin, Hankins, Anderson.

 

If this is what you're doing, if you are giving the reps to Basham and Turay regardless, then do the same throughout the team.  If you do, that's fine, but stop with the phony competition talk.

Were you there with these players on a daily bases? Were you there during every training camp and practice?  Unless you were there, there is no way you can judge what players stay or go.

[BeanDiasucci]

28 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Were you there with these players on a daily bases? Were you there during every training camp and practice?  Unless you were there, there is no way you can judge what players stay or go.

So if the Colts cut or otherwise got rid of Luck, Brissett, Hilton, Nelson, Braden Smith and Darius Leonard, there's no way anyone could judge that unless they were with the players on a daily basis?  

[crazycolt1]

3 hours ago, BeanDiasucci said:

So if the Colts cut or otherwise got rid of Luck, Brissett, Hilton, Nelson, Braden Smith and Darius Leonard, there's no way anyone could judge that unless they were with the players on a daily basis?  

If it has to be explained I was talking about the bubble players then I would be wasting my time explaining that to you.

[ColtStrong2013]

4 hours ago, BeanDiasucci said:

So if the Colts cut or otherwise got rid of Luck, Brissett, Hilton, Nelson, Braden Smith and Darius Leonard, there's no way anyone could judge that unless they were with the players on a daily basis?  

But did they...?

[masters1]

Posts like the original one just leave you shaking your head. Make the playoffs in a year or your fired. Thank god Ballard is the GM and not many of the people on this board.

[rock8591]

On 9/2/2018 at 1:52 PM, BeanDiasucci said:

So if the Colts cut or otherwise got rid of Luck, Brissett, Hilton, Nelson, Braden Smith and Darius Leonard, there's no way anyone could judge that unless they were with the players on a daily basis?  

 

That's such a strawman, if there was one.

[BeanDiasucci]

18 minutes ago, rock8591 said:

 

That's such a strawman, if there was one.

I don't think it is a straw man. CrazyColt's argument is that unless you are with the players every day, and at training camp and at practices, there's no way you can judge what players should be cut. I didn't create a different argument, a straw man. I gave a more extreme example of the same argument. There are many ways you could potentially judge which players should be cut without being with them every day. You might have watched some of them throughout their careers leading up to this camp, might be a former or current coach or player who is a really good observer of preseason games, or maybe you just have a good sense from studying a number of sources; you just might have great insight about a starter on the team or about a bubble player. Of course, you may be very wrong, as well. I just don't accept the argument, though, that the only people allowed to have a valid or reasoned position on who should be cut are those who are with the players every day. Because GMs and coaches turn out to wrong some times, while fans and other educated followers sometimes turn out to be right.  

 

 

[Coffeedrinker]

15 hours ago, BeanDiasucci said:

I don't think it is a straw man. CrazyColt's argument is that unless you are with the players every day, and at training camp and at practices, there's no way you can judge what players should be cut. I didn't create a different argument, a straw man. I gave a more extreme example of the same argument. There are many ways you could potentially judge which players should be cut without being with them every day. You might have watched some of them throughout their careers leading up to this camp, might be a former or current coach or player who is a really good observer of preseason games, or maybe you just have a good sense from studying a number of sources; you just might have great insight about a starter on the team or about a bubble player. Of course, you may be very wrong, as well. I just don't accept the argument, though, that the only people allowed to have a valid or reasoned position on who should be cut are those who are with the players every day. Because GMs and coaches turn out to wrong some times, while fans and other educated followers sometimes turn out to be right.  

 

 

Actually that is what a strawman argument is, when you create an extreme situation that is really outside of the realm of possibility and use that exaggerated scenario as proof the original comment is not valid.

 

To the rest you, can have an opinion about players all you want and noone is saying otherwise but most people act like because they watch the preseason games and read a few reports online they understand what is going on, when in reality they have about 10% of the information the coaches and GMs use to base their decisions.

[Cynjin]

4 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:

Actually that is what a strawman argument is, when you create an extreme situation that is really outside of the realm of possibility and use that exaggerated scenario as proof the original comment is not valid.

 

To the rest you, can have an opinion about players all you want and noone is saying otherwise but most people act like because they watch the preseason games and read a few reports online they understand what is going on, when in reality they have about 10% of the information the coaches and GMs use to base their decisions.

 

I can think of multiple posters where that concept is beyond their comprehension.

[James]

 

[csmopar]

7 minutes ago, James said:

 

way to bring up a dead thread.  wonder where the OP is today

[runthepost]

Imagine how big of a cow to eat this is...

[2006Coltsbestever]

This ranks up there with the worst Thread of 2018. The only other 2 as bad that comes to mind was one where a Poster started a Thread that Andrew Luck will never play again and we should trade him, another was a Thread started by saying we wouldn't win another game after we lost the Jags and fell to 6-6.  

[King Colt]

In the Bizzaro World Superman is a weakling and Griggson is a genius. Just adding facts to the OP.

[Lucky Colts Fan]

On 8/31/2018 at 1:01 AM, threeflight said:

IMO GM Ballard is not impressing me in the least.

 

[Gramz]

Lol  it's fun to re-visit old threads.

 

Btw... he impresses the Hell out of me. 

Reich too!

[aaron11]

i'll admit i wasnt overly impressed with ballards first year, and it was hard to be optimistic when they were 1-5.  i was worried that we are wasting most of lucks career

 

i think CB would understand, you are what your record says right? 

[deadman]

#OldPostsExposed

[Rackeen305]

Whoever composed this post should be banned by CB. There. Now he's even.

[Crunked]

I think keeping with the clown/circus theme going round today, I think I will call this the Bearded Luck, errrr............ Lady................ Bearded Lady thread yeah that's it.......as you were

[SilentHill]

My favorite part:

 

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Totally bungled the backup QB situation last year expecting to go into the season starting the worst Qb in the world.  Is that guy even still in the league?

 

Bungled the coaching search.