Who Makes the Cut-Final 53+ Roster Prediction

[Hoosiernsavga]

I think our new CB Pipkins that we just traded Morrison for will make it over Milton. 

I also dont know what the coaching staff sees in Moore. Hes horrible in coverage. 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, Hoosiernsavga said:

I think our new CB Pipkins that we just traded Morrison for will make it over Milton. 

I also dont know what the coaching staff sees in Moore. Hes horrible in coverage. 

Agreed LP above CM

[MacDee1975]

27 minutes ago, MightyLucks said:

1 season. This second season hasn’t played out yet. And you’re obviously entitled to your own opinion, even if it is a little misguided. 

 

Actually it's misguided to say they are on the right track, as their record is 4-12 under Ballard's watch.  If/when they start winning NFL regular season football games, is when anyone can come on here and crow about Chris Ballard.

 

 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

Actually it's misguided to say they are on the right track, as their record is 4-12 under Ballard's watch.  If/when they start winning NFL regular season football games, is when anyone can come on here and crow about Chris Ballard.

 

 

On the field record is a mute point

 

 

  if someone wants to “crow” about CB or anyone else they can and everyone else will be to sit on their hands and chill 

[Case]

1 hour ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

Actually it's misguided to say they are on the right track, as their record is 4-12 under Ballard's watch.  If/when they start winning NFL regular season football games, is when anyone can come on here and crow about Chris Ballard.

 

 

With no luck and completing turning the roster over. Not possible to fix everything in 1 year or Even 2

[MacDee1975]

2 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:

On the field record is a mute point

 

 

  if someone wants to “crow” about CB or anyone else they can and everyone else will be to sit on their hands and chill 

 

if someone wants to complain about CB or anyone else they can and everyone else will be to sit on their hands and chill 

[NewEra]

Misery loves company

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

if someone wants to complain about CB or anyone else they can and everyone else will be to sit on their hands and chill 

Who said you couldn’t 

  It never came from TigerTown 

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Misery loves company

?

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Who said you couldn’t 

  It never came from TigerTown 

?

You have those people in the world/forum that just constantly whine and complain about anything and everything....hence misery loves company. 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, NewEra said:

You have those people in the world/forum that just constantly whine and complain about anything and everything....hence misery loves company. 

Not sure what you meant

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Not sure what you meant

It's not a hard concept. Miserable people like to bring their misery and negative crap wherever they go. Hence making others miserable....

[PrincetonTiger]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It's not a hard concept. Miserable people like to bring their misery and negative crap wherever they go. Hence making others miserable....

That is why I am so positive and do not like conflict but I learned the hard way that at times you must be the squeaky wheel

   

[Coffeedrinker]

2 hours ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

Actually it's misguided to say they are on the right track, as their record is 4-12 under Ballard's watch.  If/when they start winning NFL regular season football games, is when anyone can come on here and crow about Chris Ballard.

 

 

Why is it you can say the 2018 draft class and free agents are devoid of talent before they play a game but it's wrong for someone else to say they are on the right track before they play a game?

[DougDew]

The problem is the blaming.  Always an undertone of blame in many threads.  Constant blame, notably towards others, when something isn't working out presently.

 

When we went 11-5 during Luck's 1st year, and making the playoffs the year after, nobody was blaming Bill Polian for anything, despite him providing the Colts with just AC, Reggie, Mathis, and (an old and poor fit) Freeney and no cap space. 

 

Overcoming adversity is an admirable thing too.

 

But its preseason, so blaming, or crowing, shouldn't even be part of the discussion, IMO, since nothing has really happened yet.

[a06cc]

I’m having a hard time saying this because lack of depth. However I feel DGood doesn’t make the roster. Even when healthy I don’t see anything. He is just big. On that aspect I see why people like him. 

[throwing BBZ]

It is like these ____ have never seen a team build through the draft.
Of course the roster is weak for all the OBVIOUS reasons.
 Ballard will look at the talent that emerges from his 2 drafts and add from there.
 Any expectations beyond mediocrity till 2020 are ____ hardy. Sorry about your LUCK.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

On 8/26/2018 at 10:39 AM, PrincetonTiger said:

Yes and or injury concerns

 

I doubt Simon's on the bubble, & he practiced today so the neck must be a non-issue.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I doubt Simon's on the bubble, & he practiced today so the neck must be a non-issue.

He was never on the bubble but since I hadn’t heard anything when I made the list he was down there

[Steamboat_Shaun]

On 8/26/2018 at 1:31 PM, Mr.NotSoCreative said:

We need better starting tackles. We dont even know how good AC will be after missing this much time. 

 

If he were a rookie or a 2nd year player, I'd probably be a little worried, but he's a 7 year vet. I expect that he'll be fine.

[DougDew]

6 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I doubt Simon's on the bubble, & he practiced today so the neck must be a non-issue.

Agreed.  Simon is one of the few players known to be good at this point, and you don't remove one of the only good known quantities from the roster.  In the big scheme of the NFL, he isn't worth much in a trade either.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

4 hours ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

Actually it's misguided to say they are on the right track, as their record is 4-12 under Ballard's watch.  If/when they start winning NFL regular season football games, is when anyone can come on here and crow about Chris Ballard.

 

 

 

Their starting QB last year wasn't even on the team until week 2. How many games did you expect to win?

[Superman]

Players I think are virtual locks:

 

QB: Luck, Brissett

RB: Mack, Wilkins

WR: Hilton, Grant, Rogers

TE: Doyle, Ebron

OL: AC, Nelson, Kelly, Slauson, Smith (this is sad, I thought we had more quality linemen)

 

DL: Autry, Ridgeway, Sheard, Simon, Lewis, Turay, Woods (probably the deepest position on the team)

LB: Leonard, Moore, Goode

CB: Wilson, Desir, Hairston, Moore

S: Geathers, Hooker, Farley

 

Specialists: AV, Sanchez, Rhodes

 

That's 14 offensive players, 17 defensive players, 3 specialists, for a total of 34 players I think are 95% certain to make the final roster, barring injury or other developments over the next week.

 

There are a few other players I think are between 50-75% likely to make the roster: Hines, Fountain, Haeg, Webb, Turbin, Daniels, Franklin, Adams, Hunt, Delaire. 

 

That leaves 9 spots to be filled. You need 3 more OL, 2 WR, maybe another back or TE. On defense, 1 corner, 1 safety, 1 LB. That's 53. There's also an outside possibility that they want to keep 3 QBs, which is reasonable.

 

I think there might be 3-5 players on the Week 1 roster that aren't on the team right now. Specifically OL depth, maybe a corner, maybe a receiver (actually, I think we have some promising WR4-5-6 guys on the roster, but it seems like none of them are consistent and/or healthy). There might be some players traded out or in, or both, around the deadline. 

 

Last year, Ballard signed Jeff Locke and guaranteed him $1.25m. He didn't make the final 53. This year, he signed Austin Howard and guaranteed him $1.3m. I'm somewhat surprised Howard hasn't been cut already, with how awful he's been in the preseason. I don't think his contract will keep him safe. And of course, Good can't stay healthy. I feel like Ballard will add a veteran OL at some point over the next week, especially if they don't feel Braden Smith is ready at RT. That's the biggest question mark in the starting lineup right now, by far.

[a06cc]

6 minutes ago, Superman said:

Players I think are virtual locks:

 

QB: Luck, Brissett

RB: Mack, Wilkins

WR: Hilton, Grant, Rogers

TE: Doyle, Ebron

OL: AC, Nelson, Kelly, Slauson, Smith (this is sad, I thought we had more quality linemen)

 

DL: Autry, Ridgeway, Sheard, Simon, Lewis, Turay, Woods (probably the deepest position on the team)

LB: Leonard, Moore, Goode

CB: Wilson, Desir, Hairston, Moore

S: Geathers, Hooker, Farley

 

Specialists: AV, Sanchez, Rhodes

 

That's 14 offensive players, 17 defensive players, 3 specialists, for a total of 34 players I think are 95% certain to make the final roster, barring injury or other developments over the next week.

 

There are a few other players I think are between 50-75% likely to make the roster: Hines, Fountain, Haeg, Webb, Turbin, Daniels, Franklin, Adams, Hunt, Delaire. 

 

That leaves 9 spots to be filled. You need 3 more OL, 2 WR, maybe another back or TE. On defense, 1 corner, 1 safety, 1 LB. That's 53. There's also an outside possibility that they want to keep 3 QBs, which is reasonable.

 

I think there might be 3-5 players on the Week 1 roster that aren't on the team right now. Specifically OL depth, maybe a corner, maybe a receiver (actually, I think we have some promising WR4-5-6 guys on the roster, but it seems like none of them are consistent and/or healthy). There might be some players traded out or in, or both, around the deadline. 

 

Last year, Ballard signed Jeff Locke and guaranteed him $1.25m. He didn't make the final 53. This year, he signed Austin Howard and guaranteed him $1.3m. I'm somewhat surprised Howard hasn't been cut already, with how awful he's been in the preseason. I don't think his contract will keep him safe. And of course, Good can't stay healthy. I feel like Ballard will add a veteran OL at some point over the next week, especially if they don't feel Braden Smith is ready at RT. That's the biggest question mark in the starting lineup right now, by far.

After watch the game film I think Webb might win the job. He didn’t look all that bad this game week 3. Wasn’t perfect, however he wasn’t the worst. 

[DougDew]

10 minutes ago, Superman said:

Players I think are virtual locks:

 

 

OL: AC, Nelson, Kelly, Slauson, Smith (this is sad, I thought we had more quality linemen)

 

 

But that would be a better OL than at any point last year.

 

I think that is actually a pretty good OL, and RT might be where Smith ends up.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, DougDew said:

But that would be a better OL than at any point last year.

 

I think that is actually a pretty good OL, and RT might be where Smith ends up.

Webb did a nice job too and would/could be a nice mentor to Smith 

[Douzer]

Watching every snap in every game with focus on the O-Line for a couple of years, I see the O-line shaping out in the following way. However, I do not know if they met their off-season targets, nor their personality traits, work ethic, practice production, film study, etc. That's a lot of missing information that can shift things many other ways. Nonetheless I'm inclined to see the following:

Castonzo, Nelson, Kelly, Slauson, Good

Clark, Vuchnovich, ------, Smith, Haeg

While many hate this guy, or that guy, the best 9 on the roster should make it and those are the best 9. #10 would be Bond in my eyes.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Douzer said:

Watching every snap in every game with focus on the O-Line for a couple of years, I see the O-line shaping out in the following way. However, I do not know if they met their off-season targets, nor their personality traits, work ethic, practice production, film study, etc. That's a lot of missing information that can shift things many other ways. Nonetheless I'm inclined to see the following:

Castonzo, Nelson, Kelly, Slauson, Good

Clark, Vuchnovich, ------, Smith, Haeg

While many hate this guy, or that guy, the best 9 on the roster should make it and those are the best 9. #10 would be Bond in my eyes.

Take out Vuj and add Webb and you have it    

 

   Opinion from TigerTown 

[Superman]

37 minutes ago, DougDew said:

But that would be a better OL than at any point last year.

 

I think that is actually a pretty good OL, and RT might be where Smith ends up.

 

I'm okay with that starting lineup (if Smith can settle down and stop holding). I'm disappointed that there's little to no depth behind it. Howard, Haeg, Clark, Good, were all supposed to be top reserves, if not push for starting spots. The only one I'd have on the final 53 is Haeg, and that's questionable.

[Hoose]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

I'm okay with that starting lineup (if Smith can settle down and stop holding). I'm disappointed that there's little to no depth behind it. Howard, Haeg, Clark, Good, were all supposed to be top reserves, if not push for starting spots. The only one I'd have on the final 53 is Haeg, and that's questionable.

I like Haeg because of his versatility. Howard looks like he's gone. Good to IR with ability to return. I think Webb makes it, along with...gulp.....Clark. And Smith starts at RT. 

[Superman]

12 minutes ago, Hoose said:

I like Haeg because of his versatility. Howard looks like he's gone. Good to IR with ability to return. I think Webb makes it, along with...gulp.....Clark. And Smith starts at RT. 

 

I like the idea of Haeg's versatility, but he hasn't played very well since his rookie year. They haven't given him a lot of work at RT so far. 

 

Good call on Good, probably a reasonable way to proceed. But I've lost any hope in his ability to stay on the field. Came back for a handful of plays and immediately got hurt again. It's a pattern at this point.

 

Clark hasn't played well, either. He has the tools, but he hasn't put them together on the field. 

 

Smith at RT isn't ideal, but is an acceptable compromise. It gets him on the field, albeit at a different position. But we could move him inside next year, and sign an actual pro level RT. 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I like the idea of Haeg's versatility, but he hasn't played very well since his rookie year. They haven't given him a lot of work at RT so far. 

 

Good call on Good, probably a reasonable way to proceed. But I've lost any hope in his ability to stay on the field. Came back for a handful of plays and immediately got hurt again. It's a pattern at this point.

 

Clark hasn't played well, either. He has the tools, but he hasn't put them together on the field. 

 

Smith at RT isn't ideal, but is an acceptable compromise. It gets him on the field, albeit at a different position. But we could move him inside next year, and sign an actual pro level RT. 

Haeg’s versatility is why I had a * by Bond

[Two_pound]

I said on here at the beginning of training camp that if Clark is on the field week one we are in trouble. After watching the niner game there is NO WAY Clarke or Howard make the team. And I still don't understand all the hate directed at Haeg on this forum, he should be the starting right tackle and if Costanzo can't go Haeg should start at left tackle with Webb at right tackle. Instead of all this ridiculous negativity on here why don't we wait and see what this team does with a real qb under center this year??

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, Two_pound said:

I said on here at the beginning of training camp that if Clark is on the field week one we are in trouble. After watching the niner game there is NO WAY Clarke or Howard make the team. And I still don't understand all the hate directed at Haeg on this forum, he should be the starting right tackle and if Costanzo can't go Haeg should start at left tackle with Webb at right tackle. Instead of all this ridiculous negativity on here why don't we wait and see what this team does with a real qb under center this year??

 

What are you shouting about? Where's this Haeg hate?

 

Relax. 

[Two_pound]

I didn't know I was shouting, I am very relaxed, I'm probably one of the few people on this forum who think the Colts have the best chance to win the afc south this year. This roster isn't near as bad as so many on here think it is.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Two_pound said:

I didn't know I was shouting, I am very relaxed, I'm probably one of the few people on this forum who think the Colts have the best chance to win the afc south this year. This roster isn't near as bad as so many on here think it is.

All Caps= Yelling

[Two_pound]

I did not know that. But then again I don't have a cell phone, I don't text, I don't know what 90 % of all those abbreviations mean. ( I just found out what smh means 2 days ago). So you see, I am not very acclimated to todays style of communication. I post a handful of comments a year on this forum, and I do enjoy it. Thank you for pointing something out to me that so many people these days take for granted and assume everyone else knows.

[PrincetonTiger]

10 minutes ago, Two_pound said:

I did not know that. But then again I don't have a cell phone, I don't text, I don't know what 90 % of all those abbreviations mean. ( I just found out what smh means 2 days ago). So you see, I am not very acclimated to todays style of communication. I post a handful of comments a year on this forum, and I do enjoy it. Thank you for pointing something out to me that so many people these days take for granted and assume everyone else knows.

You are welcome 

[crazycolt1]

I am interested in the players that Ballard might be bringing in after the cuts. It's not hard to imagine that there will be at least a couple of more talented players who will become available. Sometimes other teams release players who don't fit their scheme but may fit ours.

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I am interested in the players that Ballard might be bringing in after the cuts. It's not hard to imagine that there will be at least a couple of more talented players who will become available. Sometimes other teams release players who don't fit their scheme but may fit ours.

If this was a few years ago that would be happening now

[richard pallo]

More trades coming.  Maybe Abdullah coming over for Daniels, Swoope or Hunt.