Lawrence Owen Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 First off, lets me say this: I am FULLY behind our O-line taking on the new 'Tough & Nasty' persona. I would love to see them impose their will upon opposing defensive front 7's this up-coming year. What a contrast THAT would be as opposed to what we've seen in the Grigson/Pagano era. However, sports history in general (especially in the NFL), have a tendency to label players or groups or even entire teams whom play 'tough and Nasty', and get into skirmishes with other teams players on a frequent basis due to playing hard and tough. (not so much unlike we have have EVERY padded practice) as "Dirty". This is the Biggest '4' letter word in sports. (I know it's 5 letters...) Given That many fans around the NFL already label the Colts as 'cheaters/troublemakers', (granted the majority of those being Pats/Ravens fans) Can our organization really afford this type of negative label? I may be off, might be overthinking things. But when this came to mind after the 3rd straight practice with scuffles among our own players, it got me a little worried. And then got me thinking about the consequences of that. Personally, I hope our o-line keeps this new face and just starts plowing other teams in the run game. 250 yards rushing to Cincy week 1 behind our o-line manhandling their defensive front 7 sound like a good start...lol. (A fan can dream can't he?..lol) So anyone else have these thoughts? Or am I just 'chasing ghost's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Some of those with nasty reps are also great humans ala Howie Long and Alan Page It just depends 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I think you're over thinking things. Personally I don't care what the o line is labeled. If Luck actually has time to throw, they could label the o line different curse words for all I care. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lawrence Owen said: First off, lets me say this: I am FULLY behind our O-line taking on the new 'Tough & Nasty' persona. I would love to see them impose their will upon opposing defensive front 7's this up-coming year. What a contrast THAT would be as opposed to what we've seen in the Grigson/Pagano era. However, sports history in general (especially in the NFL), have a tendency to label players or groups or even entire teams whom play 'tough and Nasty', and get into skirmishes with other teams players on a frequent basis due to playing hard and tough. (not so much unlike we have have EVERY padded practice) as "Dirty". This is the Biggest '4' letter word in sports. (I know it's 5 letters...) Given That many fans around the NFL already label the Colts as 'cheaters/troublemakers', (granted the majority of those being Pats/Ravens fans) Can our organization really afford this type of negative label? I may be off, might be overthinking things. But when this came to mind after 3 3rd straight practice with scuffles among our own players, it got me a little worried. And then got me thinking about the consequences of that. Personally, I hope our o-line keeps this new face and just starts plowing other teams in the run game. 250 yards rushing to Cincy week 1 behind our o-line manhandling their defensive front 7 sound like a good start...lol. (A fan can dream can't he?..lol) So anyone else have these thoughts? Or am I just 'chasing ghost's? I would be 1000% fine with our offensive line having a reputation for being dirty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveA1102 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 If them being dirty keeps Andrew Luck clean then I am all for it. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said: If them being dirty keeps Andrew Luck clean then I am all for it. Correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 It'll take a while for us to get any kind of label besides bad after giving up 100 sacks in two seasons so don't sweat it. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 If they can stay healthy I feel like they have the potential to be a top 10-15 offensive line. I really like Slauson and Howard on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolMagnet Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Lawrence Owen said: First off, lets me say this: I am FULLY behind our O-line taking on the new 'Tough & Nasty' persona. I would love to see them impose their will upon opposing defensive front 7's this up-coming year. What a contrast THAT would be as opposed to what we've seen in the Grigson/Pagano era. However, sports history in general (especially in the NFL), have a tendency to label players or groups or even entire teams whom play 'tough and Nasty', and get into skirmishes with other teams players on a frequent basis due to playing hard and tough. (not so much unlike we have have EVERY padded practice) as "Dirty". This is the Biggest '4' letter word in sports. (I know it's 5 letters...) Given That many fans around the NFL already label the Colts as 'cheaters/troublemakers', (granted the majority of those being Pats/Ravens fans) Can our organization really afford this type of negative label? I may be off, might be overthinking things. But when this came to mind after the 3rd straight practice with scuffles among our own players, it got me a little worried. And then got me thinking about the consequences of that. Personally, I hope our o-line keeps this new face and just starts plowing other teams in the run game. 250 yards rushing to Cincy week 1 behind our o-line manhandling their defensive front 7 sound like a good start...lol. (A fan can dream can't he?..lol) So anyone else have these thoughts? Or am I just 'chasing ghost's? It might be nice to be called "nasty/dirty" instead of "SOFT" for a change. i really dont think we have to worry about that tho. they arent stomping people (Suh style), or cut-blocking (Broncos style). there is a HUGE leap from nasty/physical to "dirty", and we arent even in that zip code. Its a non-issue , imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex22 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, DaveA1102 said: If them being dirty keeps Andrew Luck clean then I am all for it. I see what you did there 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 No fear. There’s nasty, then there’s dirty. Conrad Dobler dirty. I’ll take nasty anytime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bshultz Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hopefully labeled, hard nosed, nasty, and physical. I'd also take gritty and tough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, Smonroe said: No fear. There’s nasty, then there’s dirty. Conrad Dobler dirty. I’ll take nasty anytime. You forgot Richie Incognito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Sorry..... but you’re chasing ghosts. Theres no reason (yet) to worry about our OL being hit with a label of dirty. We haven’t even played a single regular season game yet. We haven’t even played a single pre-season game yet. We only have a half dozen practices under our belt. And forgive me, Alan Iverson, but we’re talking about practice. I mean.... practice. We’re talking about practice. No need to get worked up over practice! Odds are we’ll never hear the word “dirty.” It’ll stop with “nasty.” No fear at this point. Wait until things play out. Enjoy this time. Live without fear. Have fun! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBlue Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: Sorry..... but you’re chasing ghosts. Theres no reason (yet) to worry about our OL being hit with a label of dirty. We haven’t even played a single regular season game yet. We haven’t even played a single pre-season game yet. We only have a half dozen practices under our belt. And forgive me, Alan Iverson, but we’re talking about practice. I mean.... practice. We’re talking about practice. No need to get worked up over practice! Odds are we’ll never hear the word “dirty.” It’ll stop with “nasty.” No fear at this point. Wait until things play out. Enjoy this time. Live without fear. Have fun! Agree with everything but I rate that AI reference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 This is what Ray Lewis talks about a offensive line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Colts Fan Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 If there's a laundry list of NFL DLinemen on IR at the end of the season because Nelson & Co. put them there, THEN we can start with the D-word. (Dirty, not the other D-word) Until then, I'm fine with the N-word. (Nasty, not the other N-word) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodsworth Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I am so ready for the years of our 'finesse' Colts getting pummeled in the playoffs by nasty/physical teams to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said: If there's a laundry list of NFL DLinemen on IR at the end of the season because Nelson & Co. put them there, THEN we can start with the D-word. (Dirty, not the other D-word) Until then, I'm fine with the N-word. (Nasty, not the other N-word) I want a “nasty” team but not a “dirty” team 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarine Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Seriously, y'all throwing up this b/c of a daggum Earl Grey joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I don't care what they are called as long as it is a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four2itus Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I am amazed that folks are affected by what other people label the team as. I could care less what other fans, writers, bloggers, etc call my team. People called Marvin finesse. I watched him take a hit to the stomach at Husky Stadium, go to the sideline and throw up. Then one play later catch a long pass for a TD. Opinions are not facts, they are just tongue wagging. I would much rather have a team that went 12-4 and was talked about as being soft, then a 10-6 bunch of tough guys. Scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck 4 president Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Did this really deserve its own thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarine Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Luck 4 president said: Did this really deserve its own thread? Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sreeb2deeni Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I'd say they are just getting down and dirty trying to impress the coaches that will determine their fate. Conrad Dobler. Wow that's a un-blast from the past. Very accurate too. Nice work Smonroe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Lawrence Owen said: Given That many fans around the NFL already label the Colts as 'cheaters/troublemakers', What the heck you talkin’ ‘bout? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDee1975 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I won't be labeling this OL as anything until I see how they perform in actual NFL regualar season games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Owen Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Archer said: What the heck you talkin’ ‘bout? A lot of other teams say that Indy has pumped crown noise into the speaker systems,...all the way back to the RCA dome. And troublemakers...well,...have you heard that a lot of nfl fans (mostly pats fans) say Indy started 'deflate gate' just to get an edge? There are other instances,..but those two a the foremost that come to mind. I personally say "nonsense" to such accusations. but fans believe what they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Agree on the nonsense charge. Leave it to * fans to claim the Colts were responsible for New England cheating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Jeff Saturday was tough, and he was the type to not back down from a fight. I can recall several games where he would get into it with opposing defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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