Pre preseason 53 man roster

[CR91]

I've updated the lineups from what we've seen from TC so far

 

QB-Luck, Brissett (2)

RB-Mack, Hines, Wilkins, Turbin (4)

WR-Hilton, Grant, Rogers, Cain, Fountain (5)

TE-Doyle, Ebron, Travis, Swoope (4)

LT- AC, Good (2)

LG-Nelson, Glowinski (2)

C-Kelly, Bond (2)

RG-Slauson, Smith (2)

RT-Howard, Haeg (2)

 

Offense-25

 

DE-Sheard, Simon (2)

DT-Autry, Lewis, Rooches (3)

DT-Woods, Stewart (2)

DE-Basham, Turay, Mccain (3)

SLB-Walker, Morrison(2)

MLB-Moore, Franklin (2)

WLB-Leonard, Goode (2)

CB- Wilson, Moore, Hairston, Desir, Milton(5)

SS- Geathers, Green (2)

FS- Hooker, Fairley (2)

 

Defense-25

 

K- Vinatieri

P-Sanchez

LS-Rhodes

 

Specialist-3

 

PS- Adams, Kaaya, Allie-Cox, Odum, Ishemel, Cooper, Jackson, Burwell, Brent, Tyrell Adams

[jskinnz]

As good a guess as any.

 

If you get within 90% right you are doing something (or got lucky).  

 

Where I would disagree.

      1.  I think Mewhort does not make it

     2. 11 d linemen is too many

     3. I think Hines' versatility mean 1 less WR that makes it

     4. I thinl Swoope makes it and they keep 4 TE's

[CR91]

Just now, jskinnz said:

As good a guess as any.

 

If you get within 90% right you are doing something (or got lucky).  

 

Where I would disagree.

      1.  I think Mewhort does not make it

     2. 11 d linemen is too many

     3. I think Hines' versatility mean 1 less WR that makes it

     4. I thinl Swoope makes it and they keep 4 TE's

 

1.Interesting you think Mewhort won't make it. Do you have an idea who will replace him then?

2.I do agree 11 is a lot, however I just don't see where to add more players on offense to balance the team. 

3. 5 is usually the norm when it comes to WRs and I don't see cain or fountain lasting very long on the PS.

4. Swoope is just injured too much imo. I don't recall him practicing during OTAs, but we'll see at TC

[BProland85]

I can't wait to see this new look OL take shape and hopefully stay healthy!

[lollygagger8]

I'll guess: One less CB and one more TE 

[WoolMagnet]

15 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

As good a guess as any.

 

If you get within 90% right you are doing something (or got lucky).  

 

Where I would disagree.

      1.  I think Mewhort does not make it

     2. 11 d linemen is too many

     3. I think Hines' versatility mean 1 less WR that makes it

     4. I thinl Swoope makes it and they keep 4 TE's

Only 4 wr?  I doubt that , especially when hilton and rogers are somewhat "slight" in size.  Who knows, but i sure hope we keep 5 on roster.  But what do i know, i'm just a caveman living in a modern world.

[CR91]

5 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

I'll guess: One less CB and one more TE 

 

With our history of CBs dropping like flies?

[csmopar]

only thing I see is I dont think we carry 4 RBs.

[CR91]

5 minutes ago, csmopar said:

only thing I see is I dont think we carry 4 RBs.

 

Well hines is gonna be more of the spread around weapon then a traditional RB

[Caleb3502]

Depending on McCain's legal situation, I could see someone like Margus Hunt or Erik Swoope make the roster in his place.  Hunt is getting older and Swoope has dealt with injuries.  Roster cuts are going to be interesting this year, though I don't think we will know the final Week 1 roster until well after initial cut-down day given Ballard's activeness with the waiver wire.  

[jameszeigler834]

1 hour ago, CR91 said:

 

1.Interesting you think Mewhort won't make it. Do you have an idea who will replace him then?

2.I do agree 11 is a lot, however I just don't see where to add more players on offense to balance the team. 

3. 5 is usually the norm when it comes to WRs and I don't see cain or fountain lasting very long on the PS.

4. Swoope is just injured too much imo. I don't recall him practicing during OTAs, but we'll see at TC

It sucks Swoope got hurt last year he showed promise during 2016 season before injury in TC last year ended his season before it started I hope if he don't make it here he gets another shot somewhere else.

[richard pallo]

I think Bond beats out Haag.  Burwell also makes the team.  One less defensive player.  Probably DL or CB.  Possibly Simon traded for a pick.  

[krunk]

I'm opposite.   I don't see how Bond makes it unless Haeg really stinks up the joint. To be honest I don't think Bond will offer much position versatility.   I mean he's a 6 foot 1 center so I don't know how much I see him playing Guard and he for sure isn't playing Tackle.   The Guard position on this team right now is jam packed with competition between Nelson, Slauson, Mewhort, Braden Smith, Glowinski and maybe somebody else I forgot.   You might have a grudge against Haeg but he can play every position on the line and that's great value as a backup/reserve player.  That offers more to the team than Deshwan Bond and Glowinski.  Haegs name didn't come off the lips of Irsay for no reason.  Plus you have Slauson who can also play center.  I think they roll with Haeg and the other option of having Slauson to play center in a pinch.  Plus you can cut a guy like Bond and put him on the PS to keep him around if you need to.

[NewColtsFan]

56 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I think Bond beats out Haag.  Burwell also makes the team.  One less defensive player.  Probably DL or CB.  Possibly Simon traded for a pick.  

 

You think Bond, who plays one position, beats out Haeg, who plays FIVE?

 

I agree, I see Simon being traded.

 

[richard pallo]

49 minutes ago, krunk said:

I'm opposite.   I don't see how Bond makes it unless Haeg really stinks up the joint. To be honest I don't think Bond will offer much position versatility.   I mean he's a 6 foot 1 center so I don't know how much I see him playing Guard and he for sure isn't playing Tackle.   The Guard position on this team right now is jam packed with competition between Nelson, Slauson, Mewhort, Braden Smith, Glowinski and maybe somebody else I forgot.   You might have a grudge against Haeg but he can play every position on the line and that's great value as a backup/reserve player.  That offers more to the team than Deshwan Bond and Glowinski.  Haegs name didn't come off the lips of Irsay for no reason.  Plus you have Slauson who can also play center.  I think they roll with Haeg and the other option of having Slauson to play center in a pinch.  Plus you can cut a guy like Bond and put him on the PS to keep him around if you need to.

I thought Bond made the team last year as a backup center and then he too got hurt.  He is only a center and Kelly is only a center.   So we went with the center position last year with two players who only play one position.  I didn't realize Slauson can also play center so he also gives us the versatility we need for the interior.  To me that's more of a reason Haag doesn't make it.   Haag hasn't heldup at G or T.  Hence the additions of Nelson, Slauson, Howard and Smith.  Haag can play a number of positions but he is a liability IMO.   If he earns a backup role good for him.   But i, for one, will be holding my breath if he is out there trying to protect Andrew Luck. 

[krunk]

15 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I thought Bond made the team last year as a backup center and then he too got hurt.  He is only a center and Kelly is only a center.   So we went with the center position last year with two players who only play one position.  I didn't realize Slauson can also play center so he also gives us the versatility we need for the interior.  To me that's more of a reason Haag doesn't make it.   Haag hasn't heldup at G or T.  Hence the additions of Nelson, Slauson, Howard and Smith.  Haag can play a number of positions but he is a liability IMO.   If he earns a backup role good for him.   But i, for one, will be holding my breath if he is out there trying to protect Andrew Luck. 

Bond plays one position only for the most part and he wasn't really lights out at that spot the more he played either.  I can't see them cutting the guy who plays 5 spots to keep the one who only plays one. Bond is only so so albeit I think it's  mostly due to being inexperienced.   I like Bond but I don't see him making it over Haeg.  If you are going to make it on this 2018 squad as a reserve you will most definitely have to be position Versatile.  You have to play more than one spot.

 

I can however see us cutting Bond and them picking him back up to be on the Practice Squad just in case we need a center due to injuries.  This is just my opinion of course!

[krunk]

For the reserve Tackle positions I'm also questioning or at least almost certain that Clark either won't make the team  or will have a nice Hill to climb in order to make it.  And it's not because of position versatility.  I just think Good and Haeg will probably be called on in those roles.

Haeg will be like Joe Reitz sort of filling in for everyone and then Good will be the other guy unless he beats out Austin Howard for the starting spot somehow.  I have my doubts that happens but we shall see.  Maybe if Clark plays well we end up keeping an extra lineman or something.

[PrincetonTiger]

5 minutes ago, krunk said:

For the reserve Tackle positions I'm also questioning or at least almost certain that Clark either won't make the team  or will have a nice Hill to climb in order to make it.  And it's not because of position versatility.  I just think Good and Haeg will probably be called on in those roles.

Haeg will be like Joe Reitz sort of filling in for everyone and then Good will be the other guy unless he beats out Austin Howard for the starting spot somehow.  I have my doubts that happens but we shall see.  Maybe if Clark plays well we end up keeping an extra lineman or something.

A Switzerland Army Knife

[richard pallo]

9 minutes ago, krunk said:

For the reserve Tackle positions I'm also questioning or at least almost certain that Clark either won't make the team  or will have a nice Hill to climb in order to make it.  And it's not because of position versatility.  I just think Good and Haeg will probably be called on in those roles.

Haeg will be like Joe Reitz sort of filling in for everyone and then Good will be the other guy unless he beats out Austin Howard for the starting spot somehow.  I have my doubts that happens but we shall see.  Maybe if Clark plays well we end up keeping an extra lineman or something.

I liked Joe Reitz.  I was trying to think of his name earlier but I had a senior moment.  He was a perfect versatile backup who held up well when called upon.   Joe Haag has a long way to go to be another Joe Reitz IMO.  We shall see.  I wouldn't rule out Good winning the starting RT spot again.  He did it last year although I would consider Howard a better challenger.  Clark I don't see at all.  

[LockeDown]

Such a waste.  I always thought Clark would make a good  LT one day... a starter.  Now he might not even make our roster. 

[John Hammonds]

I would like to see Steve Ishmael make the team.  But can you logically carry 6 WR's?  And whose place does he take?  I guess it comes down to "what else can you do when you're not playing WR."

[DaveA1102]

59 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

I would like to see Steve Ishmael make the team.  But can you logically carry 6 WR's?  And whose place does he take?  I guess it comes down to "what else can you do when you're not playing WR."

 

Also Krishawn Hogan. 

 

A good problem to have I guess in terms of trying to fit guys we want into the roster.

[Fisticuffs111]

I wouldn't be surprised if we only carry 9 OL but I think we'll go into the season with 10. I think Burwell has a decent shot to make the roster, he's been getting  a lot of reps.

I also think we carry one less on the DL at least. Possibly only 9.

[aaron11]

15 hours ago, richard pallo said:

I thought Bond made the team last year as a backup center and then he too got hurt.  He is only a center and Kelly is only a center.   So we went with the center position last year with two players who only play one position.  I didn't realize Slauson can also play center so he also gives us the versatility we need for the interior.  To me that's more of a reason Haag doesn't make it.   Haag hasn't heldup at G or T.  Hence the additions of Nelson, Slauson, Howard and Smith.  Haag can play a number of positions but he is a liability IMO.   If he earns a backup role good for him.   But i, for one, will be holding my breath if he is out there trying to protect Andrew Luck. 

i think kelly could play guard at an nfl level 

 

hes 6-4 313

[CR91]

4 hours ago, aaron11 said:

i think kelly could play guard at an nfl level 

 

hes 6-4 313

 

You want to take our best center and move him to a position hes never played?

[krunk]

55 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

You want to take our best center and move him to a position hes never played?

I don't think he wants to.  I think he's just saying he has that type of size and ability if ever needed. Or a situation somehow called for it.

[CR91]

33 minutes ago, krunk said:

I don't think he wants to.  I think he's just saying he has that type of size and ability if ever needed. Or a situation somehow called for it.

 

I get that, but I don't see the point of it just to have bond on the team

[LockeDown]

1 hour ago, CR91 said:

 

I get that, but I don't see the point of it just to have bond on the team

Here’s a question.  Next years draft we are faced with the best center in 20 years and it’s our pick. He’s the best player on the board.  Would you take him and move Kelly to guard?

[CR91]

4 minutes ago, LockeDown said:

Here’s a question.  Next years draft we are faced with the best center in 20 years and it’s our pick. He’s the best player on the board.  Would you take him and move Kelly to guard?

 

is that really a serious question?

[aaron11]

3 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

You want to take our best center and move him to a position hes never played?

nope, just saying he could do it in response to kelly being a center only

 

he hasnt been asked to, and probably wont unless its an emergency 

 

 

[Hoose]

One less DT and one more OL----Might Le'Raven actually step up and become the backup RT? We'll see. Get rid of McCain on the DL and you have a pretty good looking team. 

[CR91]

21 minutes ago, Hoose said:

One less DT and one more OL----Might Le'Raven actually step up and become the backup RT? We'll see. Get rid of McCain on the DL and you have a pretty good looking team. 

 

I haven't heard anything positive about Clark and the fact that hes playing with the 3s tell me he has a very steep hill to climb to stay on the team

[Matthew Gilbert]

On ‎6‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 6:57 PM, krunk said:

Bond plays one position only for the most part and he wasn't really lights out at that spot the more he played either.  I can't see them cutting the guy who plays 5 spots to keep the one who only plays one. Bond is only so so albeit I think it's  mostly due to being inexperienced.   I like Bond but I don't see him making it over Haeg.  If you are going to make it on this 2018 squad as a reserve you will most definitely have to be position Versatile.  You have to play more than one spot.

 

I can however see us cutting Bond and them picking him back up to be on the Practice Squad just in case we need a center due to injuries.  This is just my opinion of course!

If this scenario comes to fruition and it's between Haeg and Bond for a roster spot, you're probably right with the Colts keeping Haeg because of his versatility. If Bond ends up on the practice squad, I don't think he'll be there long. Some team with a need for interior line depth or even a spot starter will scoop him in a heartbeat. I thought he played his tail off in his four game cameo last year. He was very active and his quickness and hand pop were very nice. I would really hate to see him go. 

[akcolt]

15 hours ago, Matthew Gilbert said:

If this scenario comes to fruition and it's between Haeg and Bond for a roster spot, you're probably right with the Colts keeping Haeg because of his versatility. If Bond ends up on the practice squad, I don't think he'll be there long. Some team with a need for interior line depth or even a spot starter will scoop him in a heartbeat. I thought he played his tail off in his four game cameo last year. He was very active and his quickness and hand pop were very nice. I would really hate to see him go. 

I think you may be a little high on Bond. He is going to have a tough time making the roster from where I sit. He's a pure pivot and he's currently the 3rd C on the team behind Kelly and Slauson.  I'm sure you are fimilar with Kelly. Slauson played C very well when called on in Chicago and SD. He's a very good G too and a solid free agent signing. 

 

Haeg is seeing an increased work load at C so far this year. That doesn't help Bond's cause. I thought Bond filled in admirably last year for an UDFA pushed into duty. I like him but his lack of position flex is going to make it tough. We have 2 starting level C's already on the roster. I think best case scenario for Bond maybe the PS even that'll be tough as a pure pivot. 

 

I'm not sure why some are down on Haeg. Joe is only 25 years old entering year 3 in the league with starting experience at G and T. He's currently showing the ability to cover at C too. That's the kind of versatility teams look for in O linemen but is difficult to find. He may never become an above average starter on the OL but reserves who can play all 5 spots are very valuable 

[LockeDown]

53 minutes ago, akcolt said:

I think you may be a little high on Bond. He is going to have a tough time making the roster from where I sit. He's a pure pivot and he's currently the 3rd C on the team behind Kelly and Slauson.  I'm sure you are fimilar with Kelly. Slauson played C very well when called on in Chicago and SD. He's a very good G too and a solid free agent signing. 

 

Haeg is seeing an increased work load at C so far this year. That doesn't help Bond's cause. I thought Bond filled in admirably last year for an UDFA pushed into duty. I like him but his lack of position flex is going to make it tough. We have 2 starting level C's already on the roster. I think best case scenario for Bond maybe the PS even that'll be tough as a pure pivot. 

 

I'm not sure why some are down on Haeg. Joe is only 25 years old entering year 3 in the league with starting experience at G and T. He's currently showing the ability to cover at C too. That's the kind of versatility teams look for in O linemen but is difficult to find. He may never become an above average starter on the OL but reserves who can play all 5 spots are very valuable 

Wasn't Haegs main issue his strength?  He's solid technically and football IQ, but can be pushed around a bit.  I always thought the weight room would fix that issue eventually. 

[Hoose]

Isn’t that Clark’s main issue too?

[richard pallo]

5 hours ago, LockeDown said:

Wasn't Haegs main issue his strength?  He's solid technically and football IQ, but can be pushed around a bit.  I always thought the weight room would fix that issue eventually. 

I think strength is a major issue for Haag.  I thought the weight room and a year of NFL strengthening would help him out but that was not the case last year.   Versatility is all fine and good but if you are a liability on the field it means nothing.  I would feel better if we found a backup like Joe Reitz at cutdown time.  But Joe has all of the  preseason to make his case so we shall see. 

[HectorRoberts]

On 6/14/2018 at 6:33 PM, LockeDown said:

Such a waste.  I always thought Clark would make a good  LT one day... a starter.  Now he might not even make our roster. 

Give him 1 more year he’s still very young 

[Two_pound]

One thing I don't understand on this forum is all the hate thrown at Haeg. Joe Haeg is better than Howard and Burwell. Bond makes the team if he is fully recovered from his injury.

[richard pallo]

2 hours ago, Two_pound said:

One thing I don't understand on this forum is all the hate thrown at Haeg. Joe Haeg is better than Howard and Burwell. Bond makes the team if he is fully recovered from his injury.

Joe Haag is not better than Howard.  Burwell could beat him out as well.  I agree that if Bond is fully recovered he will make the team which does not bode well for Haag.   This year Haag will have to fight his way onto the roster unlike the last couple of years.