Peyton And The Redskins Game [Merge]

[Peyton and Eli fan]

For how long and when though?

I have no idea, obviously. But, many have said that after the hit in game one of 2010 he had difficulty throughout the season. With a neck problem it's often a series of improvements and setbacks.

He had the first surgery prior to the 2009 season, wasn't it?

[hawkeyes]

Yes, it was definitely an ugly hit, but trying to point to this one single hit just reeks of trying to create a witch hunt. Peyton before that hit took plenty of hits and he has taken tons of hits after. Trying to pinpoint this single hit is just a way for Colts fans to find someone to blame for Manning's injury now.

Soon there will be a bunch of Indy fans with pitch forks and torches marching towards St. Louis.

THIS! I agree 100% and think it is really silly bordering on pathetic to try and go back in time and place blame now.

[Peyton and Eli fan]

THIS! I agree 100% and think it is really silly bordering on pathetic to try and go back in time and place blame now.

Except that Dungy has said this all year, so it's not a reaction to the bounty system.

[ruksak]

THIS! I agree 100% and think it is really silly bordering on pathetic to try and go back in time and place blame now.

If it could be reasonably determined that this bounty may have led to overzealous hitting which resulted in serious injury to a franchise player, than "blame" isn't the word for it.

Accountability.

[Ryan Pelley]

I don't have the video, but if you look at PM's 1st int in SB 44, he gets a wicked block in the back during the return and his head snaps back.

I always thought that play was what did him in.

I'm still curious why that wasn't a flag.

[Jaric]

I have to laugh; that hit was "late"? Peyton still had the ball in his hand as he was being hit. It wasn't a dirty hit, either, hence why there was no flag. Was it a bit unnecessary? Yes, perhaps, but this is a man's game.

You're kidding right? Manning was on the ground and he tried to rip his head off bending him backwards like a pretzel.

There is nothing "manly" about thuggery.

[BuildtheMonster1285]

Has Peyton ever blamed that play? I know Dungy did, but I don't know if Peyton ever publically said that. Also, that first game of 2010 against Houston probably had something to do with the current state of affairs.

What happened in the first game of 2010?

[BuildtheMonster1285]

Except that Dungy has said this all year, so it's not a reaction to the bounty system.

True

[Peyton and Eli fan]

What happened in the first game of 2010?

Big hit by Texans. Peyton on ground for longer than normal. Started wearing something on his arm in games.

[bap1331]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120304/SPORTS03/203040355/Colts-QB-Peyton-Manning-s-injury-has-link-BountyGate-

That play against the Redskins really looks like it was the cause of the injury...

[Phil J]

welcome to september 2011.

no dig, sorry. ;) its just that we have known about it for a long time.

[mouthofsouth]

Absolutely that is when it happened. I have known this for sometime. In addition I have the game on DVD. Peyton was twisted up like a pretzel between two defenders. I believe Peyton has been quoted as saying that is when it all began. Whether it was the result of a bounty on Manning, we do not know, however Williams was the defensive coordinator, right?

[Fireman818]

I remember that sack and it was bad. There was an obvious attempt to hurt on that play. Read what you want into but that was bad and they didn't even throw a flag on that play. I had insight from a sorce that Manning was in a lot of pain after that game and was very unhappy about the play.

[Peytongirl]

I think Philip Daniels may have known about that 'practice' but I still don't think his hit was intentionally to hurt. He was distraught and IIRC there was another player involved making it is two hit pretzel type take down (haven't had the heart to see video again, but I was there at teh game). He went to Peyton, Dungy and several after the injury and game to apologize and check on Peyton. I just don't think he meant to hurt Peyton, but I think he may have known that there was a program in place and wanted to be sure no one thought his hit was intentional.

I don't know. Daniels just seems straight up. But these days, who knows about anyone.

[hawkeyes]

If it could be reasonably determined that this bounty may have led to overzealous hitting which resulted in serious injury to a franchise player, than "blame" isn't the word for it.

Accountability.

I'm on board for really sticking it to the *s who were apparently intentionally trying to hurt others, (and if that can be proven they should be banished not fined!) I just think that being able to say exactly when a injury happened is going to be very difficult.