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Gavin Memorial Draft (Post Easter) Round 1 - Begins 4/11/2018

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This is the list of GMs:

 

(1) Browns - @SolidGold

(2) Giants - @Finball

(3) Jets - @NorthernBlue

(4) Browns (Via Hou) - @SolidGold

(5) Broncos - @Jared Cisneros

(6) Colts - @crazycolt1

(7) Buccaneers - @WarGhost21

(8) Bears - @CR91

(9) 49ers - @Shive

(10) Raiders - @tvturner

(11) Dolphins - @stitches

(12) Bills - @OffensivelyPC

(13) Redskins - @John Hammonds

(14) Packers  - @crazycolt1

(15) Cardinals - @chad72

(16) Ravens - @danlhart87

(17) Chargers - @Irish Colt

(18) Seahawks - @PureLuck

(19) Cowboys - @Clem-Dog

(20) Lions - @Track Guy

(21) Bengals - @crestmount

(22) Bills (Via KC) - @OffensivelyPC

(23) Patriots - @danlhart87

(24) Panthers - @WarGhost21

(25) Titans - @Finball

(26) Falcons - @chad72

(27) Saints - @SaturdayAllDay

(28) Steelers - @NFLfan

(29) Jaguars - @Jared Cisneros

(30) Vikings - @NFLfan

(31) Patriots - @danlhart87

(32) Eagles - @csmopar

 

Teams Without a First Round Pick

Texans - @csmopar

Chiefs - @PureLuck

Rams - @HectorRoberts

 

The first round with timings are as follows. Since it is on short notice, we will give @SolidGold till 10 am to make his pick w/ or w/o trades.

 

Trades are restricted to 2018 picks only. Please PM me the trade offer that 2 GMs have accepted before announcing it. 

 

Round 1

Pick 
1. Cleveland Browns - @SolidGold at 8 am
2. New York Giants - @Finball at 10 am
3. New York Jets from Indianapolis Colts - @NorthernBlue at 12 noon
4. Cleveland Browns from Houston Texans -  @SolidGold at 2 pm
5. Denver Broncos - @Jared Cisneros at 4 pm
6. Indianapolis Colts from New York Jets - @crazycolt1 at 6pm
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - @WarGhost21 at 8 pm
8. Chicago Bears - @CR91 at 10 pm
9. San Francisco 49ers
10. Oakland Raiders
11. Miami Dolphins
12. Buffalo Bills from Cincinnati Bengals
13. Washington Redskins
14. Green Bay Packers
15. Arizona Cardinals
16. Baltimore Ravens
17. Los Angeles Chargers
18. Seattle Seahawks
19. Dallas Cowboys
20. Detroit Lions
21. Cincinnati Bengals from Buffalo Bills
22. Buffalo Bills from Kansas City Chiefs
23. New England Patriots from Los Angeles Rams
24. Carolina Panthers
25. Tennessee Titans
26. Atlanta Falcons
27. New Orleans Saints
28. Pittsburgh Steelers
29. Jacksonville Jaguars
30. Minnesota Vikings
31. New England Patriots
32. Philadelphia Eagles

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I will post the Top 200 list later, let us get it started. It takes a LOT of time to put it together, will do it in about a couple of hours.

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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

so to be clear, we can trade? also, as for the times scheduled, can we make picks at the beginning of the 2 hour window or do we have to wait for the end of the window?

You don't have to wait to make your pick.

 

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2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

You don't have to wait to make your pick.

 

hehe i have the eagles and texans... 3 picks between the 2 teams for the first 3 rounds haha and only 1 in the first 2 rounds combined

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2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

hehe i have the eagles and texans... 3 picks between the 2 teams for the first 3 rounds haha and only 1 in the first 2 rounds combined

haha-Take a nap.

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5 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

haha-Take a nap.

 

Eagles 1st rounder up for trade

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13 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

You don't have to wait to make your pick.

 

 

Yes, this is correct.

 

The timings are only suggested times, should the GM not be available right away. PMs are always welcome. @crazycolt1 is also helping me on and off, so you can PM the picks to me and him should you not be available.

 

@21isSuperman can you pin this thread as well? You can unpin the GM sign up thread. Thanks

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Both the Vikings and the Steelers are open to trading back in any round.

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Buccaneers are looking for possible trade back options, and Panthers are possibly moving up or down depending on the offer. Everyone send in offers if interested!

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I am giving @SolidGold till 12 noon to make his pick. I also sent him a PM.

 

Hopefully, he can make it by then. We can then discuss consensus pick at 12:15 pm

 

I am sure the rest of the picks will catch up.

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I'd hate to be the first guy up, with such a short (by necessity) notification.  I don't pick until tomorrow, and I'm already a nervous wreck that I might miss my time!

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1 minute ago, John Hammonds said:

I'd hate to be the first guy up, with such a short (by necessity) notification.  I don't pick until tomorrow, and I'm already a nervous wreck that I might miss my time!

 

Do you suggest we move the draft till tomorrow then? I am flexible.

 

The others can chime in too. I am trying to please everyone but I know it would be utopian to expect that. :) 

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can we trade future picks and players or are we restricted to just this year's picks

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Just now, csmopar said:

can we trade future picks and players or are we restricted to just this year's picks

 

Just this year's picks. 

 

Do you guys want an extra day to mull over trades etc.? I can start the draft tomorrow since everything seems rushed today.

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1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

Do you suggest we move the draft till tomorrow then? I am flexible.

 

The others can chime in too. I am trying to please everyone but I know it would be utopian to expect that. :) 

No, but I would be flexible with our start time.  He may be in the same boat I am.  I can't get my phone app to recognize that I'm logged into FB.  Thus, unable to post if I'm at the office.  (Working from home today!)  He may be reading all of this, and unable to answer.  I'd be willing to give him a bit of a chance to post.

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2 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

No, but I would be flexible with our start time.  He may be in the same boat I am.  I can't get my phone app to recognize that I'm logged into FB.  Thus, unable to post if I'm at the office.  (Working from home today!)  He may be reading all of this, and unable to answer.  I'd be willing to give him a bit of a chance to post.

 

Does a time of noon work? Just thinking out loud if we want to stay flexible and have the round 1 picks today. That is as far as I am willing to push. @SolidGold did visit the site around 7 am time frame, so I am sure he can pay a visit by noon.

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I'd be willing to give him until noon to post.

Can you imagine having the 1st and 4th picks, and the community made both of your picks before you were able to log in to post them yourself?  Yargh!

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3 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

I'd be willing to give him until noon to post.

Can you imagine having the 1st and 4th picks, and the community made both of your picks before you were able to log in to post them yourself?  Yargh!

 

Sounds good. I will give him till noon. I feel that would be reasonable.

 

I have updated the timings to give him till noon. I am sure we will catch up.

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20 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Do you suggest we move the draft till tomorrow then? I am flexible.

 

The others can chime in too. I am trying to please everyone but I know it would be utopian to expect that. :) 

That may be a good idea. To let those interested in trades to make their offers overnight?  I remember SolidGold saying the #1 pick was up for trade earlier.

Makes no difference to me but it might work better letting everyone think about this before submitting trade offers.

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9 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

That may be a good idea. To let those interested in trades to make their offers overnight?  I remember SolidGold saying the #1 pick was up for trade earlier.

Makes no difference to me but it might work better letting everyone think about this before submitting trade offers.

 

Alright then, executive decision- Round 1 starts tomorrow at 8 am. Have trades and picks ready then. :)

 

Updated title of thread. Thanks for your input. I was leaning towards it but wanted a few more to nudge me along. 

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19 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Sounds good. I will give him till noon. I feel that would be reasonable.

I would get an updated draft pick list - you have two different lists above, and the nfl trade value chart link above is also out of date (i.e. the Bills 1st round picks are currently #12 and #22 and the Bengals are picking #21 - from the Cordy Glenn trade).  I used the draft tek chart - https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf

 

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4 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

I would get an updated draft pick list - you have two different lists above, and the nfl trade value chart link above is also out of date (i.e. the Bills 1st round picks are currently #12 and #22 and the Bengals are picking #21 - from the Cordy Glenn trade).  I used the draft tek chart - https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf

 

Good catch. It's tough for Chad to get all this together and lead a normal life. :huthut:

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Just now, crazycolt1 said:

Good catch. It's tough for Chad to get all this together and lead a normal life. :huthut:

I don't use drafttek for much, but they do stay on top of it with the trade chart and updating trades.

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@chad72 - by the way, you mentioned assistant commisioners in a previous post somewhere.  I'll help out as much as I can to keep the draft moving along.  Work's been getting a bit busier of late, so I might not have as much time as before, but if I'm around, of course I'll help keep things moving along.

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37 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Good catch. It's tough for Chad to get all this together and lead a normal life. :huthut:

 

Thanks. I got it fixed. 

 

Both lists should be consistent now.

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1 hour ago, John Hammonds said:

I'd hate to be the first guy up, with such a short (by necessity) notification.  I don't pick until tomorrow, and I'm already a nervous wreck that I might miss my time!

Remember if you cant make your draft time you can submit a few players in the order you want them in a queue either to Chad, OPC, WarGhost or me. Or right out in view. Your pick will be covered.

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Cardinals are open to moving up from No.15 if the right QB is there but unfortunately cannot move up too much due to little draft equity. However, they are willing to hear out a few offers - willing to give up a 1, 2 and 3rd round compensatory pick to move up, so PM me if you are ahead of me and like those picks or make alternate offer.

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Here is the Top 200 (taken from drafttek, this is just a handy reference with the player's alternate position also listed). Please use your judgement and other sites like nfl.com or nfldraftscout.com as well, here is the list:

 

3 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

1.            Sam Darnold      USC        QB          6'4"        225        

2.            Saquon Barkley Penn State          RBF        6'0"        233        

3.            Bradley Chubb  NC State              EDGE     6'4"        269        

4.            Josh Rosen          UCLA     QB          6'3"        210        

5.            Josh Allen            Wyoming             QB          6'5"        230        

6.            Minkah Fitzpatrick           Alabama              S              6'0"        204        

7.            Denzel Ward      Ohio State           CB           5'10"      183        

8.            Quenton Nelson               Notre Dame       OG         6'5"        325        

9.            Tremaine Edmunds         Virginia Tech      OLB        64"         253         ILB

10.          Derrius Guice     LSU        RBF        5'10"      224        

11.          Baker Mayfield  Oklahoma           QB          6'0"        210        

12.          Derwin James    Florida State       S              6'2"        215        

13.          Roquan Smith    Georgia ILB          6'1"        236         OLB

14.          Marcus Davenport          UTSA     EDGE     6'6"        264        

15.          Calvin Ridley       Alabama              WRF       6'1"        190        

16.          Rashaan Evans   Alabama              ILB          6'2"        232        

17.          Mike McGlinchey             Notre Dame       OT          6'8"        309        

18.          Lamar Jackson   Louisville              QB          6'2"        205        

19.          Taven Bryan       Florida  DL3T      6'5"        291        

20.          Vita Vea               Washington        DL1T      6'4"        347        

21.          Joshua Jackson  Iowa      CB           6'0"        196        

22.          Kolton Miller      UCLA     OT          6'9"        309        

23.          Maurice Hurst   Michigan              DL3T      6'1"        292        

24.          Arden Key           LSU        EDGE     6'5"        238        

25.          Christian Kirk      Texas A&M         WRF       5'11"      201         WRS

26.          Harold Landry    Boston College  EDGE     6'2"        252         OLB

27.          Connor Williams                Texas    OT          6'5"        296        

28.          Mike Hughes      UCF        CB           5'10"      189        

29.          D.J. Moore          Maryland             WRF       5'11"      215         WRS

30.          Leighton Vander Esch     Boise State         ILB          6'4"        256         OLB

31.          Hayden Hurst     South Carolina   TE           6'5"        253        

32.          Isaiah Oliver       Colorado              CB           6'0"        201        

33.          Isaiah Wynn       Georgia OG         6'2"        313        

34.          Jaire Alexander Louisville              CB           5'10"      196        

35.          Da'Ron Payne    Alabama              DL1T      6'2"        311        

36.          Ronald Jones II  USC        RBF        5'11"      205        

37.          Ronnie Harrison                Alabama              S              6'2"        207        

38.          Courtland Sutton             SMU      WRF       6'4"        225        

39.          Will Hernandez UTEP     OG         6'2"        327        

40.          Brian O'Neill       Pittsburgh           OT          6'7"        297        

41.          Mason Rudolph Oklahoma State QB          6'4"        235        

42.          Sam Hubbard     Ohio State           EDGE     6'5"        270        

43.          James Washington          Oklahoma State WRF       6'0"        205        

44.          Braden Smith     Auburn OG         6'6"        315        

45.          Lorenzo Carter  Georgia EDGE     6'5"        250         OLB

46.          Justin Reid          Stanford              S              6'0"        207        

47.          Carlton Davis      Auburn CB           6'1"        206        

48.          Uchenna Nwosu               USC        OLB        6'2"        251        

49.          Da'Shawn Hand Alabama              DL5T      6'4"        297        

50.          Nick Chubb         Georgia RBF        5'11"      227        

51.          Quenton Meeks               Stanford              CB           6'1"        209        

52.          Sony Michel        Georgia RBF        5'11"      214        

53.          Kyzir White         West Virginia      S              6'2"        218        

54.          Chukwuma Okorafor      Western Michigan           OT          6'6"        320        

55.          Mike Gesicki       Penn State          TE           6'6"        252        

56.          Deon Cain            Clemson              WRF       6'2"        200        

57.          Harrison Phillips                Stanford              DL1T      6'3"        307        

58.          Orlando Brown Oklahoma           OT          6'8"        345        

59.          Donte Jackson   LSU        CB           5'10"      178        

60.          Frank Ragnow   Arkansas              OC          6'5"        312         OG

61.          Ogbonnia Okoronkwo    Oklahoma           OLB        6'2"        253         EDGE

62.          Jessie Bates III   Wake Forest       S              6'1"        200        

63.          Dallas Goedert  S Dakota St         TE           6'4"        250        

64.          Josh Sweat          Florida State       EDGE     6'5"        251        

65.          Dante Pettis       Washington        WRF       6'1"        185        

66.          Royce Freeman Oregon RBF        5'11"      229        

67.          D.J. Chark            LSU        WRF       6'3"        187        

68.          Josey Jewell       Iowa      ILB          6'1"        234        

69.          M.J. Stewart       North Carolina   CB           5'11"      200         S

70.          Desmond Harrison           West Georgia     OT          6'6"        292        

71.          Billy Price             Ohio State           OG         6'4"        305         OC

72.          Anthony Averett              Alabama              CB           5'11"      183        

73.          Kerryon Johnson              Auburn RBF        5'11"      213        

74.          Kalen Ballage      Arizona State     RBF        6'1"        228        

75.          Isaac Yiadom      Boston College  CB           6'1"        190        

76.          Dorance Armstrong         Kansas  EDGE     6'3"        257        

77.          Mark Andrews  Oklahoma           TE           6'5"        253        

78.          Jerome Baker    Ohio State           ILB          6'1"        229         OLB

79.          Wyatt Teller       Virginia Tech      OG         6'5"        308        

80.          Simmie Cobbs Jr.              Indiana WRF       6'4"        220        

81.          Rasheem Green USC        DL5T      6'4"        275         DL3T

82.          James Daniels    Iowa      OC          6'3"        306         OG

83.          Mike White         Western Kentucky           QB          6'3"        215        

84.          Duke Dawson    Florida  CB           5'11"      197        

85.          DeShon Elliott    Texas    S              6'1"        207        

86.          Anthony Miller  Memphis             WRS       5'11"      190        

87.          Dalton Schultz   Stanford              TE           6'6"        240        

88.          Michael Gallup  Colorado St         WRF       6'1"        195        

89.          Holton Hill           Texas    CB           6'2"        196        

90.          Tyrell Crosby      Oregon OT          6'5"        309        

91.          B.J. Hill  NC State              DL1T      6'3"        311         DL3T

92.          Rashaad Penny San Diego St       RBF        5'11"      220        

93.          Tre'Quan Smith UCF        WRF       6'1"        209        

94.          Trevon Young    Louisville              EDGE     6'4"        258        

95.          Tarvarus McFadden        Florida State       CB           6'2"        204        

96.          RJ McIntosh       Miami   DL3T      6'4"        286        

97.          Poona Ford         Texas    DL3T      6'0"        300        

98.          Luke Falk              Washington State            QB          6'3"        214        

99.          Steven Richardson           Minnesota          DL3T      6'0"        300        

100.        Terrell Edmunds               Virginia Tech      S              6'0"        217        

101.        Nathan Shepherd            Fort Hays State DL3T      6'4"        315        

102.        Derrick Nnadi     Florida State       DL1T      6'1"        317        

103.        Tony Brown        Alabama              CB           6'0"        199        

104.        Darius Leonard  S Carolina State OLB        6'2"        234        

105.        Andrew Brown  Virginia DL5T      6'3"        296        

106.        Scott Quessenberry        UCLA     OC          6'4"        315         OG

107.        Mark Walton      Miami (FL)           RBF        5'10"      202        

108.        Jalyn Holmes      Ohio State           DL5T      6'5"        283        

109.        Ito Smith              Southern Miss   RBC        5'9"        195        

110.        Ian Thomas         Indiana TE           6'5"        248        

111.        Brandon Parker North Carolina A&T         OT          6'8"        305        

112.        Kameron Kelly   San Diego St       S              6'2"        204        

113.        Trenton Thompson         Georgia DL3T      6'3"        288        

114.        Jeff Holland        Auburn EDGE     6'1"        249        

115.        Allen Lazard        Iowa State           WRF       6'5"        223        

116.        Nyheim Hines    NC State              RBC        5'8"        198         RBF

117.        Rashaan Gaulden             Tennessee          CB           6'1"        197        

118.        Joshua Frazier    Alabama              DL1T      6'3"        321        

119.        Folorunso Fatukasi          Connecticut        DL1T      6'4"        318        

120.        Micah Kiser         Virginia ILB          6'0"        238        

121.        Tim Settle           VA Tech                DL1T      6'3"        329        

122.        Joseph Noteboom           TCU        OT          6'5"        309        

123.        Kyle Lauletta      Richmond            QB          6'3"        216        

124.        Akrum Wadley  Iowa      RBF        5'10"      194         RBC

125.        Equanimeous St. Brown Notre Dame       WRF       6'5"        204        

126.        Nick Nelson        Wisconsin            CB           5'11"      200        

127.        Brendan Mahon               Penn St OG         6'4"        315        

128.        Marcell Frazier  Missouri               EDGE     6'5"        265        

129.        Keke Coutee      Texas Tech          WRS       5'11"      180        

130.        Deontay Burnett              USC        WRF       6'0"        170        

131.        Josh Adams        Notre Dame       RBF        6'2"        213        

132.        Michael Hill         Ohio State           DL3T      6'2"        295        

133.        Cedrick Wilson  Boise State         WRF       6'3"        188        

134.        Chase Litton       Marshall               QB          6'6"        211        

135.        Shaquem Griffin               UCF        S              6'2"        229         OLB

136.        Deadrin Senat   South Florida      DL1T      6'0"        314        

137.        Kendrick Norton               Miami   DL1T      6'3"        314        

138.        Troy Fumagalli   Wisconsin            TE           6'5"        234        

139.        Dorian O'Daniel Clemson              OLB        6'1"        223        

140.        Bradley Bozeman             Alabama              OC          6'5"        314        

141.        DaeSean Hamilton           Penn State          WRF       6'1"        211        

142.        Marcus Allen      Penn State          S              6'2"        215        

143.        Mike McCray      Michigan              ILB          6'1"        243        

144.        Kevin Toliver II   LSU        CB           6'2"        192        

145.        Christian Sam     Arizona State     ILB          6'1"        244        

146.        Riley Ferguson  Memphis             QB          6'4"        210        

147.        Breeland Speaks               Ole Miss               DL3T      6'3"        283        

148.        Marcell Ateman Oklahoma State WRF       6'4"        220        

149.        Ike Boettger       Iowa      OT          6'5"        307        

150.        Bo Scarbrough   Alabama              RBF        6'1"        228        

151.        Chad Thomas     Miami (FL)           EDGE     6'5"        281        

152.        Tegray Scales     Indiana ILB          6'0"        230         OLB

153.        Durham Smythe               Notre Dame       TE           6'4"        245        

154.        Quin Blanding    Virginia S              6'2"        207        

155.        Lowell Lotulelei Utah      DL1T      6'2"        315        

156.        Justin Jones        NC State              DL1T      6'2"        309        

157.        Kylie Fitts             Utah      EDGE     6'4"        263        

158.        Mason Cole        Michigan              OC          6'4"        307        

159.        D.J. Reed             Kansas St             CB           5'9"        188        

160.        Kentavius Street               NC State              DL3T      6'2"        280        

161.        Jaleel Scott          NMSU   WRF       6'6"        215        

162.        Malik Jefferson Texas    OLB        6'2"        236         ILB

163.        Jordan Lasley     UCLA     WRF       6'1"        209        

164.        Justin Jackson    Northwestern   RBC        6'0"        199         RBF

165.        Jordan Whitehead           Pittsburgh           S              5'10"      198        

166.        Jaylen Samuels  NC State              FB           5'11"      236         TE

167.        John Kelly            Tennessee          RBF        5'10"      216        

168.        J.C. Jackson         Maryland             CB           5'10"      201        

169.        Roc Thomas        Jacksonville St    RBF        5'10"      198        

170.        Ryan Izzo             Florida State       TE           6'5"        245        

171.        Armani Watts    Texas A&M         S              5'10"      202        

172.        DeQuinton Osborne       Oklahoma State DL3T      6'1"        305        

173.        Auden Tate         Florida State       WRF       6'5"        225        

174.        Marquis Haynes               Ole Miss               EDGE     6'2"        235        

175.        David Moa          Boise State         DL3T      6'3"        271        

176.        Kemoko Turay   Rutgers EDGE     6'5"        253        

177.        Mike Ramsay     Duke     DL3T      6'2"        290        

178.        J'Mon Moore     Missouri               WRF       6'3"        190        

179.        Austin Corbett   Nevada OG         6'4"        306         OC

180.        Will Geary           Kansas State       DL3T      6'0"        298        

181.        Dalyn Dawkins   Colorado State  RBC        5'9"        185        

182.        Du'Vonta Lampkin           Oklahoma           DL1T      6'4"        335        

183.        De'Asian Richardson       Louisville              DL1T      6'3"        322        

184.        Jack Cichy            Wisconsin            ILB          6'2"        238        

185.        Griffin Oakes      Indiana PK           5'10"      198        

186.        P.J. Hall SHSU     DL3T      6'1"        308        

187.        Justin Crawford West Virginia      RBF        5'11"      199        

188.        Cam Phillips        Virginia Tech      WRF       6'0"        203        

189.        Jamarco Jones   Ohio State           OT          6'4"        299        

190.        Brandon Facyson              Virginia Tech      CB           6'1"        203        

191.        Christian LaCouture        LSU        DL5T      6'4"        307        

192.        Kahlil McKenzie Jr            Tennessee          DL1T      6'3"        314        

193.        Eddy Pineiro       Florida  PK           5'11"      178        

194.        Ethan Wolf          Tennessee          TE           6'5"        248        

195.        James Looney    Cal          DL3T      6'3"        287        

196.        Antonio Callaway             Florida  WRS       5'11"      197        

197.        Taron Johnson  Weber State       CB           5'11"      192        

198.        Michael Dickson               Texas    P             6'2"        209        

199.        Dylan Cantrell    Texas Tech          WRF       6'3"        225        

200.        Daylon Mack      Texas A&M         DL1T      6'0"        320

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Looking to trade down the first overall pick if anyone wants to move up. I want to stay in top 10 but open to all negotiations. 

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NFL :  Indianapolis Colts & Cleveland Browns in trade discussions. Sources not yet confirmed. Reports surfaced after GM @SolidGold was seen leaving Browns facilities earlier today. No word yet from GM @crazycolt1

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NFL News: Tampa Bay Buccaneers reportedly in trade talks with multiple teams with the #7 pick, GM declines to comment on which teams. Reportedly still listening to offers from other teams, but a pair of teams are clear favorites thus far. More news shortly!

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With the first pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select (via PM)

 

Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State

 

@Finball and The Giants are on the clock

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