Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

NewColtsFan

Wonderlic Scores for 2018 TOP QB's Revealed.....

Recommended Posts

 

It's just the top-5.....     no info on any other QB coming out....

 

The NFL seems to have trouble keeping this info locked down for some odd reason....    leaks out every year....

 

And here it is....

 

http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/news/wonderlic-test-scores-nfl-draft-lamar-jackson-baker-mayfield-josh-allen-rosen-2018/1e2jrnn7xb2da1j4e5cfux8u6y

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A 13? Yikes. Jackson might be the next Vick, but you got a big project ahead of you especially for a first round pick

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fine it was me, I setup their computers they used for this event /s /jk (except I actually did setup their network for testing)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, CR91 said:

A 13? Yikes. Jackson might be the next Vick, but you got a big project ahead of you especially for a first round pick

Noway he goes in the 1st round. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jackson also had a slow 40 time, poor accuracy, and poor velocity in the combine tests.  Not sure why this guy gets so much hype.  Wonder why he's over rated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any of you take the Wonderlic test. I did without the aide of a calculator, and my score was only 18. I am sure with a calculator or at least pen and paper I could of scored much higher. So do the Combine players get to use a calculator, is there a time limit? What are the rules?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, onebad150 said:

Any of you take the Wonderlic test. I did without the aide of a calculator, and my score was only 18. I am sure with a calculator or at least pen and paper I could of scored much higher. So do the Combine players get to use a calculator, is there a time limit? What are the rules?

In order to be an official wonderlic test it has to be timed(12 minutes for 50 questions) and you are not supposed to use a calculator.

 

There are much better IQ tests than the Wonderlic but the wonderlic tests cognitive reasoning under pressure(in this case time)... can you quickly figure out what is going on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, onebad150 said:

Any of you take the Wonderlic test. I did without the aide of a calculator, and my score was only 18. I am sure with a calculator or at least pen and paper I could of scored much higher. So do the Combine players get to use a calculator, is there a time limit? What are the rules?

 

I got a 32 at footballiqscore.com. Not sure how that test compares to the real Wonderlic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, DougDew said:

Jackson also had a slow 40 time, poor accuracy, and poor velocity in the combine tests.  Not sure why this guy gets so much hype.  Wonder why he's over rated.

 

He didn't run the 40.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, hoosierhawk said:

lol. Think Jackson needs to switch to WR.

dan marino and jim kelly got 16s.   

 

johnny manziel got a 32, which was better than peyton manning's score.  

 

malik hooker got a 17, he seems to be good at reading plays anyway.  i dont think this test is worth much  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, DougDew said:

Jackson also had a slow 40 time, poor accuracy, and poor velocity in the combine tests.  Not sure why this guy gets so much hype.  Wonder why he's over rated.

 

Care to cite your source?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It probably has a lot to do with memorizing and processing large amounts of data like playbooks....book sense.  But there’s a different type of processing on the field.  Application of data.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Care to cite your source?

I doubt he has one because as another poster mentioned, he didn't run the 40 at the Combine nor his Pro Day. I thought he looked decent throwing at his Pro Day. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wonderlic Test scores do not predict success in the NFL.

 

Kellen Clements, Christian Ponder, Ryan Lindley, Matt Linart, Drew Stanton all scored 35. Blaine Gabbert and Drew Henson 42!

Yet Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw scored 16. Jim Kelly, Steve McNair, and Randall Cunningham scored 15 . McNabb 14. Neil O'Donnell 13 like Lamar Jackson. O'Donnell was better than most of the guys who scored above 35.

 

Others:
Todd Husak (39)
Colin Kaepernick (38)
Ryan Nassib (41)
Sean Mannion (40)
Matt Flynn (38)
Charlie Frye (38)

Jim Sorgi (15)

Jeff George (10)

Kordell Stewart (14)

John David Booty (14)

 

http://wonderlictestsample.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, NFLfan said:

Wonderlic Test scores do not predict success in the NFL.

 

Kellen Clements, Christian Ponder, Ryan Lindley, Matt Linart, Drew Stanton all scored 35. Blaine Gabbert and Drew Henson 42!

Yet Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw scored 16. Jim Kelly, Steve McNair, and Randall Cunningham scored 15 . McNabb 14. Neil O'Donnell 13 like Lamar Jackson. O'Donnell was better than most of the guys who scored above 35.

 

Others:
Todd Husak (39)
Colin Kaepernick (38)
Ryan Nassib (41)
Sean Mannion (40)
Matt Flynn (38)
Charlie Frye (38)

Jim Sorgi (15)

Jeff George (10)

Kordell Stewart (14)

John David Booty (14)

 

http://wonderlictestsample.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

When guys like Marino and Kelly took the wonderlic the players didn't even take it seriously. That's not the case today.

and nobody is saying a high score is a predictor of success, but there is a floor for quarterbacks that will raise a red flag....and should.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Finball said:

 

He didn't run the 40.

Oh that's right.  My bad. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

Care to cite your source?

He didn't run the 40.  Of course, for a QB, 40 doesn't matter.  NFL combine results show a ball velocity of 49, by far the slowest.  I read several places that remarked he was not very accurate.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, DougDew said:

He didn't run the 40.  Of course, for a QB, 40 doesn't matter.  NFL combine results show a ball velocity of 49, by far the slowest.  I read several places that remarked he was not very accurate.

 

You still have yet to cite your sources. If he did not run the 40, why did you state that he did and that he performed poorly? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, BOTT said:

When guys like Marino and Kelly took the wonderlic the players didn't even take it seriously. That's not the case today.

and nobody is saying a high score is a predictor of success, but there is a floor for quarterbacks that will raise a red flag....and should.

 

Lol. Please share with us when the players started taking it seriously.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

These tests mean nothing. Most these guys went to college to play football with a shot at the NFL. Few of them actually care about education. Most universities straight up give their players good grades to be eligible. So we shouldn’t expect high scores from everyone.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, CR91 said:

A 13? Yikes. Jackson might be the next Vick, but you got a big project ahead of you especially for a first round pick

 

Jeez. I wonder if people have to help him tie his shoes. :D 

 

I am hoping he just had one of those days. We all have days where we just don’t function correctly. It’s pretty hard to only get a 13 on a test like that. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, DougDew said:

Jackson also had a slow 40 time, poor accuracy, and poor velocity in the combine tests.  Not sure why this guy gets so much hype.  Wonder why he's over rated.

Jackson didn't run the 40.

 

Not at the combine or his pro day.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Jeez. I wonder if people have to help him tie his shoes. :D 

 

I am hoping he just had one of those days. We all have days where we just don’t function correctly. It’s pretty hard to only get a 13 on a test like that. 

 

Didn't Vince Young get a 7?

 

Edit.

Slight correction. It was a 6. Nice to see the greatest Colts QB of all time is on that list. :)

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/609895-2011-nfl-draft-10-worst-wonderlic-scores-in-combine-history

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Jeez. I wonder if people have to help him tie his shoes. :D 

 

I am hoping he just had one of those days. We all have days where we just don’t function correctly. It’s pretty hard to only get a 13 on a test like that. 

 

Many others have similar scores. Reggie Wayne, Ray Lewis, Neil O'Donnell, Brock Berlin all scored 13. 

 

Jeff George and Darrell Revis scored 10. Garrett Bolles and Reuben Foster scored 9!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Lol. Please share with us when the players started taking it seriously.

I was quoting Trent Dilfer....who actually played QB in the NFL and just might know a tad more than you. 

 

you don't think the entire combine process is taken far more seriously now than it was in the 70's and 80's?  Lol. Good lord, the college players start training exclusively for the combine after their season ends.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
58 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

You still have yet to cite your sources. If he did not run the 40, why did you state that he did and that he performed poorly? 

Sources for what?  I read it like two weeks ago, and I'm not writing an expose' on him.  Google "Lamar Jackson ball velocity" if you want to know.  Also, Josh Allen threw it 62 mph.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said:

These tests mean nothing. Most these guys went to college to play football with a shot at the NFL. Few of them actually care about education. Most universities straight up give their players good grades to be eligible. So we shouldn’t expect high scores from everyone.

1

Wonderlic scores might mean very little for most positions. If your job is "see ball, get ball", you could have the IQ of a root vegetable and still be good at it. There are a lot of guys making $miliions on the football field who probably have to unzip to count to eleven (or in JPP's case, ten). QBs, and to a lesser extent, Mikes and Centers need to be a lot more cerebral than their less gifted teammates.

 

For the highest score ever by an NFL prospect, you have to go way back to the 1975 draft when Pat McInally, punter and WR from Harvard, scored the only perfect 50. He was drafted in the 5th round by the Bengals, and he thinks his score might have actually hurt him.

 

So, if you're wondering how a Wonderlic score correlates to an IQ score such as the Stanford-Binet:

5 Wonderlic = 60 IQ (You may occasionally need to be reminded not to put your pants on backward)

14 = 85 (You just made the cut-off for the short bus)

22 = 100 (You're pretty much the average bear)

29 = 115 (You can probably survive four years of college without cheating)

36 = 132 (Congratulations, you're qualified for Mensa membership) 

50 = ??? (What are you doing in the NFL? You should be working on your PhD in Physics)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, BOTT said:

you don't think the entire combine process is taken far more seriously now than it was in the 70's and 80's?

 

Maybe. I don't believe most of them take the Wonderlic seriously. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Sources for what?  I read it like two weeks ago, and I'm not writing an expose' on him.  Google "Lamar Jackson ball velocity" if you want to know.  Also, Josh Allen threw it 62 mph.

 

You're the one who stated this:

12 hours ago, DougDew said:

Jackson also had a slow 40 time, poor accuracy, and poor velocity in the combine tests.  

 

I asked you to cite your sources because I wanted to see if what you wrote was true.

 

I get it now. You made it up. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Maybe. I don't believe most of them take the Wonderlic seriously. 

I would think quarterbacks do. I doubt the rest care much.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, NFLfan said:

 

Many others have similar scores. Reggie Wayne, Ray Lewis, Neil O'Donnell, Brock Berlin all scored 13. 

 

Jeff George and Darrell Revis scored 10. Garrett Bolles and Reuben Foster scored 9!

 

I am very aware. Thanks. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, BOTT said:

When guys like Marino and Kelly took the wonderlic the players didn't even take it seriously. That's not the case today.

and nobody is saying a high score is a predictor of success, but there is a floor for quarterbacks that will raise a red flag....and should.

maybe Jackson didnt take it seriously either 

 

i dont see how the test means much for football players.  malik hooker got a 17, and the way a safety reads the field isnt that different from how a QB reads it 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i also have not heard many coaches or GMs say they actually care about the wonderlic either 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think I'm reading a bunch of excuses.  Whenever somebody fails a test, oftentimes they say the test doesn't matter anyway.

 

I'm sure the NFL professionals know what matters and what doesn't, which might not be the same thing they say in public.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
58 minutes ago, DougDew said:

I think I'm reading a bunch of excuses.  Whenever somebody fails a test, oftentimes they say the test doesn't matter anyway.

 

I'm sure the NFL professionals know what matters and what doesn't, which might not be the same thing they say in public.

To the bolded, what the players say is irrelevant.  I don't know any NFL professionals that say it doesn't matter in its entirety, but to my knowledge none of them dismiss it, they just simply remind people that it's not positively correlated with success.  People acknowledge this and to the degree someone scores really low or high, don't excuse it, but aren't going to kill a players draft day grade or bump them up to the first round because of it.  That's all anyone is really saying.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

To the bolded, what the players say is irrelevant.  I don't know any NFL professionals that say it doesn't matter in its entirety, but to my knowledge none of them dismiss it, they just simply remind people that it's not positively correlated with success.  People acknowledge this and to the degree someone scores really low or high, don't excuse it, but aren't going to kill a players draft day grade or bump them up to the first round because of it.  That's all anyone is really saying.

All tests matter to some degree.  If they didn't, they wouldn't be administered.  How much they matter to which team can vary.

 

When a player, or their agent, says that they scored poorly on the wonderlic test, or the ball velocity test, or the 40, because they decided it doesn't matter, that's either an attitude problem or an excuse, IMO.

 

You know, you don't really fail if you don't try hard because you don't care, so a lot of people don't care.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not sure how much it means, although I think a really low score should scare you, but here is a link to a similar test:  https://footballiqscore.com/quiz/full-quiz

 

I took it and got a 28 the first time, similar to Peyton and Drew Brees.  So I may not be smart, but I'm not a total * I guess.   I just canNOT unscramble letters to form a word!  LOL

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • IMO there is no way in hell JB shouldn't have played vs Miami. We win that we are 6-3, that alone changes the season up to this point even. I think Reich thought Miami was so bad that he could gamble and play Hoyer and still win. That was a mistake.
    • That's actually not true. The Pacers have proven they can win without him. They are 33 and 20 without him since he's been a Pacer. Sabonis even has a better defensive rating than Myles does this year AND can actually score and rebound as well. I don't think it's much of coincidence that with Sabonis getting starter minutes he's EASILY shown he's the all around much better player.    The comparison? 4 years in the league(s) and still pretty much the same players they were in college, probably wouldn't get much in a trade for either one, and both are making ~18M this year. It doesn't get any more comparable than that... Myles' and Jacoby's ships have sailed. It's time to move on.
    • I don't know if this topic should be merged with another but it's something I need to get off my chest.  I've been contemplating where everything went off track for us.  And I keep coming back to the Steelers game & JB's injury.  But the more and more I think about it, I think Frank's actions in that game & the following week have cost us this season.   I came to this conclusion when I saw Justin Fields take a very similar shot to his knee in the OSU vs UM game.  OSU's coach put Fields back into the game.  The Buckeyes stabilized & Fields led them to victory that day & since to the playoffs.  I bring this up because it got me thinking about how our coach handled a similar situation.  JB came out & Hoyer threw a TD to Doyle (who was so wide open that JB could have made that throw but Hoyer did make some other good throws so I'm not disparaging his play that day) and Frank never looked back.   They showed him on the sideline and he could truly care less how his starting QB was doing...  It was as if he had been waiting for the moment where he could yank JB & put in a QB that he preferred.  How he handled the next week was more proof.  JB apparently took all the reps because he was healthy enough to play and as the starter wanted to.  But Frank didn't truly want him as the QB. So what does he do? He starts Hoyer, supposedly with minimal practice reps, because he felt that even with minimal reps, Hoyer was better than JB.   Unfortunately, it blew up in his and all Colts fans' faces when Hoyer laid an egg.  When Frank pulled JB for BH our season spiraled down the drain.  I believe that JB beats Pittsburgh and Miami and our season is looking very different despite the kicking woes & injuries & JB's limitations.  We were 5-2 at the time.  You don't make a boneheaded change like that.  You dance with the one that you brought...  The guy that lead us to 5-2 & 2nd in the AFC...   So I've reached the conclusion that Frank doesn't truly want JB as his QB.  And in that case we must move on to another QB next season.  I defended JB because the guy won and his teammates loved him.  But his limitations have worn on me as things have spiraled down the drain.  But he isn't alone in getting the blame.  I'm putting a lot of it on Frank & his decision to not trust his QB that got him to 5-2.     So we'll get a QB in here that he prefers next year but he won't be getting any more free passes from me.  He better win with whomever it is because I just watched him sabotage this season when the AFC was open for the taking.  If Luck said he wanted to come back in the Steelers game would Frank have ignored him & kept JB or whomever was the backup in the game?  Not a chance.  Would he have let Luck take all the reps the following week and then went with the backup?  Not a chance.  He wanted JB out and leapt at the opportunity when it was there.  Unfortunately, all he did was sink our season...
  • Members

×
×
  • Create New...