John Fox to ESPN

[oldunclemark]

 Ex-Bear, Ex-Denver coach apparently will join their pre-game show panel of 'experts'.

I dont know what to say. Of all ex-coaches, he's the least likely I'd predict to want to be on TV. 

 

I dont know what to say.

Edited March 25, 2018 by oldunclemark

[thatonefan]

Supposedly he's a guy with a lot of personality behind the scenes.

 

Agree though, of all the potential candidates, old John "6-8 wins, no more, no less" Fox doesn't seem like a great addition.

[TheMarine]

Heres John's first broadcast in a game

 

"Well, you see the Bears are up 3 points here in the 3rd quarter, the smart thing to do is run the clock out and play defense with field position"

[oldunclemark]

  He must be Rodney Dangerfield in private because I cant imagine him doing this based on his public comments over what? the last decade?

[crazycolt1]

Man you guys are pretty judgmental on him before he ever has his first broadcast.  His record has zero to do with his ability to be a part of a pre game show.

[DaveA1102]

6 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Man you guys are pretty judgmental on him before he ever has his first broadcast.  His record has zero to do with his ability to be a part of a pre game show.

 

Rotoworld also not a huge fan of this move......

 

 

Edit: text too small so copied and pasted:

 

ESPN hired ex-Bears head coach John Fox as a studio analyst.

When are these networks going to learn that hiring these past-their-time former head coaches and players who have seen the sport completely pass them by isn't good for their viewership? Fox is another atrocious hire in a laundry list of them made by ESPN and NFL Network over the years. It's time for forward-thinkers rather than stone-age "football guys" who still live in a 1998 world.

[crazycolt1]

8 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

 

Rotoworld also not a huge fan of this move......

 

 

I didn't know they were the authority on the subject?  I don't know, I just see a lot of pre judgmental comments made. I wasn't aware that Fox was disliked so much.

[DaveA1102]

2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

I didn't know they were the authority on the subject?  I don't know, I just see a lot of pre judgmental comments made. I wasn't aware that Fox was disliked so much.

 

I only knew about this as they mentioned it on a podcast I listen to, in reference to the fact that Rotoworld should not really be agenda driven, and more reporting based.

 

I agree with you though, the difference between being a coach and the team's identity under that coach is very different to what someone could be like as an analyst. The podcast crew (Around the NFL) were saying that, whenever there has been a large event like the combine or owners meetings, Fox was often seen to be "holding court" and the life of the party, so I will be reserving judgement.

[21isSuperman]

2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

I didn't know they were the authority on the subject?  I don't know, I just see a lot of pre judgmental comments made. I wasn't aware that Fox was disliked so much.

I don't think he's necessarily disliked, just that this isn't an exciting move.  I think part of it has to do with him not having much of a personality.  People like Jon Gruden or Tony Romo had some personality, which led to them doing well in the booth.  John Fox is pretty vanilla, so to speak.  If a network had the option to hire Peyton Manning or Jay Cutler (football accomplishments aside), it's easy to be more excited about Manning because he actually has a personality whereas Cutler doesn't.  I think Roto's problem is his football mentality doesn't fit today's game, so his insights won't be as useful as someone else who better appreciates the modern game.

[crazycolt1]

3 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

I don't think he's necessarily disliked, just that this isn't an exciting move.  I think part of it has to do with him not having much of a personality.  People like Jon Gruden or Tony Romo had some personality, which led to them doing well in the booth.  John Fox is pretty vanilla, so to speak.  If a network had the option to hire Peyton Manning or Jay Cutler (football accomplishments aside), it's easy to be more excited about Manning because he actually has a personality whereas Cutler doesn't.  I think Roto's problem is his football mentality doesn't fit today's game, so his insights won't be as useful as someone else who better appreciates the modern game.

So you have put him out to pasture before hearing a word he has said. OK.

[2006Coltsbestever]

For all we know John Fox might light up a cigar and start cracking jokes like George Carlin.

[crazycolt1]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

For all we know John Fox might light up a cigar and start cracking jokes like George Carlin.

Or George Burns?

[crazycolt1]

12 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

For all we know John Fox might light up a cigar and start cracking jokes like George Carlin.

If he started cracking jokes like George Carlin it would end up being x-rated.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, crazycolt1 said:

If he started cracking jokes like George Carlin it would end up being x-rated.

Yeah I was really joking but I thought it sounded good  That would be funny though. Everyone says how dull Fox is, then he comes out like Carlin  

[21isSuperman]

2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

So you have put him out to pasture before hearing a word he has said. OK.

It's just the initial opinion.  No one has said he's the worst broadcaster in the history of TV.  People just aren't excited for him.  That could very well change.

[shakedownstreet]

ABC/ESPN once the center of the sports broadcasting world. Not anymore 

[oldunclemark]

On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 6:22 AM, 21isSuperman said:

I don't think he's necessarily disliked, just that this isn't an exciting move.  I think part of it has to do with him not having much of a personality.  People like Jon Gruden or Tony Romo had some personality, which led to them doing well in the booth.  John Fox is pretty vanilla, so to speak.  If a network had the option to hire Peyton Manning or Jay Cutler (football accomplishments aside), it's easy to be more excited about Manning because he actually has a personality whereas Cutler doesn't.  I think Roto's problem is his football mentality doesn't fit today's game, so his insights won't be as useful as someone else who better appreciates the modern game.

Ive listened to his media 'briefings' during Peyton's time in Denver and recently in Chicago..

 

On TV, I'd assume he's got to be candid..and actually say something......interesting and informative...

John has skillfully avoided that for 7 years now...

[LockeDown]

Why didn't he sign with Fox?  Fox on Fox.   Great name for a show.