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Here's a tidbit attributed to Adam Schefter....

"NFL security determined between 22 and 27 defensive players on the Saints, as well as at least one asst. coach, maintained a bounty program... Investigation reviewed 18.000 documents totaling more than 50,000 pages. Commissioner Goodell will determine the discipline... NFL determined that former Saints DC Gregg Williams administered the program with knowledge of other defensive coaches... Discipline for the Saints could include fines, suspensions and forfeiture of draft choices... NFL investigation of Saints began in 2010 when allegations were made that Saints targeted QBs such as Brett Favre and Kurt Warner."

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Schefter is predicting a harsher punishment than spygate

And honestly.... with all the attention on these guys' concussions and such... it oughta be harsh.

When Williams made his not so veiled comments prior to the Super Bowl...well, that now looks like a red flag in hindsight and its not hard to believe he administered the bounty program. I know its football and guys get hurt but this kinda stuff could easily get out of control.

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Posted · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 2, 2012 - Duplicate Post
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"The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved

not just payments for ‘performance,’ but also for injuring opposing players,”

After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the

New Orleans Saints

maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments

administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.

The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints

players received $1,500 for a “knockout” hit and $1,000 for a “cart-off” hit with

payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances.

The program also entailed payments for interceptions and fumble recoveries, which also violates league rules against non-contract bonuses.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate discipline based on the investigation, the league said in a statement.

Goodell said the investigation began in 2010 after allegations were made that the Saints defenders had targeted

Arizona Cardinals

quarterback Kurt Warner and

Minnesota Vikings

quarterback Brett Favre during their 2009 run to the Super Bowl.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82757bcd/article/nfl-says-saints-created-bounty-program-from-20092011

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Remember all the talk the Saints did about getting to Peyton Like they did Farve, Werent joking at all

"The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved

not just payments for ‘performance,’ but also for injuring opposing players,”

After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the

New Orleans Saints

maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments

administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.

The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints

players received $1,500 for a “knockout” hit and $1,000 for a “cart-off” hit with

payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances.

The program also entailed payments for interceptions and fumble recoveries , which also violates league rules against non-contract bonuses.

( wonder what they got for that onside kick recovery , )

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate discipline based on the investigation, the league said in a statement.

Goodell said the investigation began in 2010 after allegations were made that the Saints defenders had

targeted

Arizona Cardinals

quarterback Kurt Warner and

Minnesota Vikings

quarterback Brett Favre during their 2009 run to the Super Bowl.

http://www.nfl.com/n...m-from-20092011

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This precedes the Saints. This is Gregg Williams. Who was the DC in Washington that fall afternoon when they hit Manning, late and dirty. He's been teaching this for years. Doesn't deserve to coach football, Period.

I have to believe Goodell is going to come down hard on this one.

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Evidently.... everyone including the GM was aware of this....

"The report found that Saints head coach Sean Payton was aware of the allegations and did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program. The league also said that general manager Mickey Loomis at one time was directed to end the program when team owner Tom Benson was made aware of the league's findings, and he did not carry out Benson's directions."

I hope Goodell drops the hammer of God on them.... fines, suspensions and draft picks.....all of it.

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This precedes the Saints. This is Gregg Williams. Who was the DC in Washington that fall afternoon when they hit Manning, late and dirty. He's been teaching this for years. Doesn't deserve to coach football, Period.

& 2009 was when they got all those strip fumbles & turnovers

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Posted · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 2, 2012 - Duplicate Post
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Couple threads in the Colts section and one in the NFL section...

Anyways, ya we've known all along the Saints were a dirty team. This just proves it.

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Pathetic excuse for a franchise IMO. I have always been sickened by the so called "feel good story" for NO over the whole Katrina thing and winning the super bowl. They ran that crap into the ground back in '09 and since then, the Saints have been proven to be nothing but a bunch of scumbag cheaters that have to resort to unsavory behavior to be successful.

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Evidently.... everyone including the GM was aware of this....

"The report found that Saints head coach Sean Payton was aware of the allegations and did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program. The league also said that general manager Mickey Loomis at one time was directed to end the program when team owner Tom Benson was made aware of the league's findings, and he did not carry out Benson's directions."

I hope Goodell drops the hammer of God on them.... fines, suspensions and draft picks.....all of it.

The head coach and the GM too. Loss of draft picks, fines and suspensions.

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The head coach and the GM too. Loss of draft picks, fines and suspensions.

Exactly.... if this was just some hushed deal between Williams and the players that MIGHT warrant just fines and suspensions.

But golden boy Sean Payton AND GM Mickey Loomis?

Fine them...suspend them....and then jack a 1st and 2nd rounder from them.

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Also the '09 Super Bowl title should be given to the runner ups.

I wanted to say same thing but just held back, Agree though ,

After all if Farve wasnt hurt maybe on that last scramble he wouldn't of had to be a cowboy and throw that final interception & may have bought more time or think better if not in pain, Many an IF now for entire season

Hey who knows what went on in that onside kick scrum, not that we ever do

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Also the '09 Super Bowl title should be given to the runner ups.

winning a trophy through forfiet is junk...

but the whole story does show how classless the saints are...

I think football is a mans sport, & grown men know the concequences of a contact sport & I am all for good plays, but TRYING to injure other players is horsie doo doo...

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They will probably be fined a million dollars, and maybe lose the next year's 1st and 2nd round picks as well plus this year's 2nd round pick.

I can see that being the extent of their punishment. They may also suspend Sean Payton for 4 games or something like that without pay to go with it.

That would still be higher than the price the Pats had to pay.

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