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22 minutes ago, DraftMaster said:

maybe his draft stock falls and we can steal him at a better price :dunno:

 

Depends on the severity of the injury.  If it's minor and he can perform at his pro-day then scouts will be watching his bench numbers at pro-day and won't even worry about the combine.

 

If it sidelines him from pro-day he see's a bit of a fall.  If it looks like it could sideline him from camp or longer, that's a big fall.  

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1 hour ago, King! said:

If he drops to the third round we should snag him!

Just like a couple years ago when we could've had Collins in the 4th, 5th, 6th, or the 7th... Uggghhh I'm still not over that one

 

Stupid Grigson

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1 minute ago, Indeee said:

Just like a couple years ago when we could've had Collins in the 4th, 5th, 6th, or the 7th... Uggghhh I'm still not over that one

 

Stupid Grigson

31 other teams fell for him and his agents bluff. Can't really blame grigs on that.

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2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Jeff Saturday never got injured. Tired of these guys being soft today, even Kelly gets injured Booooo. Saturday was the man.

 

I appreciate the frustration that comes with a player's injury....   but come on now.....    :facepalm:

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Dang, that sucks. I still think he'll go in the second though.

27 minutes ago, Indeee said:

Just like a couple years ago when we could've had Collins in the 4th, 5th, 6th, or the 7th... Uggghhh I'm still not over that one

 

Stupid Grigson

You can't blame that on anyone. All 32 teams had the chance to draft him, but didn't.

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3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Jeff Saturday never got injured. Tired of these guys being soft today, even Kelly gets injured Booooo. Saturday was the man.

 

You can't be serious? I'll assume sarcasm.

 

Hope Price will be okay. Vikes fans were hoping to draft him at 30 to pair him with his former teammate Elflein. 

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4 hours ago, twfish said:

31 other teams fell for him and his agents bluff. Can't really blame grigs on that.

I can blame him.  There was NO reason not to take a flier with a 6th or 7th rounder, to call their bluff.  If it doesn’t work out, no big loss as most 6th & 7th rounders don’t work out.  Upside, though, was just so enormous.  I was mystified that the OL desperate Colts under Grigson didn’t take a chance to secure him and I don’t consider the fact that all the other teams screwed up in passing as well as being a viable justification to give Grigs a pass.

 

Team was (and still is) in dire need of bonafied OL prospects and the gift was there for the taking. It was just SO low risk, high reward of a move that not doing so is unjustifiable.

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7 minutes ago, rockywoj said:

I can blame him.  There was NO reason not to take a flier with a 6th or 7th rounder, to call their bluff.  If it doesn’t work out, no big loss as most 6th & 7th rounders don’t work out.  Upside, though, was just so enormous.  I was mystified that the OL desperate Colts under Grigson didn’t take a chance to secure him and I don’t consider the fact that all the other teams screwed up in passing as well as being a viable justification to give Grigs a pass.

 

Team was (and still is) in dire need of bonafied OL prospects and the gift was there for the taking. It was just SO low risk, high reward of a move that not doing so is unjustifiable.

 

Well...     all 32 teams passed...

 

And what you've forgotten, is that Collins was connected to a possible double murder and the league was dealing with a bad image problem.   You might want to consider that the league asked teams to take a pass and/or team owners wanted no part of Collins until he was cleared.

 

I don't think it's hard to imagine that Irsay said no...   

 

Blaming your GM for not doing something that 31 other GMs also didn't do seems completely unreasonable.   Sorry.

 

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8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Well...     all 32 teams passed...

 

And what you've forgotten, is that Collins was connected to a possible double murder and the league was dealing with a bad image problem.   You might want to consider that the league asked teams to take a pass and/or team owners wanted no part of Collins until he was cleared.

 

I don't think it's hard to imagine that Irsay said no...   

 

Blaming your GM for not doing something that 31 other GMs also didn't do seems completely unreasonable.   Sorry.

 

I most certainly do NOT forget the circumstances ... that Collins was wanted for questioning regarding the murder of his former gf ... AND that it was expressed by authorities BEFORE the draft that he was NOT a suspect.  Thereafter there was noise from the prospect’s camp that they would not report to any team that drafts him after the second round because they thought it was nonsense that their client was passed over.

 

All the teams that passed were wrong because they ignored the fact that he was not a suspect.  There’s a difference between wanting to be interviewed by authorities surrounding the murder vs being a suspect.  The league’s 32 teams all sapped out without proper cause in being needlessly concerned and then being lackies in paying too much heed to the Agent’s threats of sitting out the year if drafted.  To me Grigson’s only defense is if he was explicitly directed by Irsay not to draft him, otherwise Grigson is guilty of the stupidity, just like all 31 other teams.

 

This is why I was upset during the draft, that it made no sense to blackball Collins being that Authorities were already clear in saying he wasn’t a suspect and because I thought it was worth the risk of a 6th or 7th round pick to call the bluff of his Agent saying they’d sit out the year if chosen after he was passed over in the first two rounds.  Drafting him anyway would have given a year to exclusively come to contract terms ... low risk / high reward.  

 

The fear surrounding Collins made no sense to me at the time and retrospective time has proven that fear to indeed be ridiculous.

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3 hours ago, rockywoj said:

I most certainly do NOT forget the circumstances ... that Collins was wanted for questioning regarding the murder of his former gf ... AND that it was expressed by authorities BEFORE the draft that he was NOT a suspect.  Thereafter there was noise from the prospect’s camp that they would not report to any team that drafts him after the second round because they thought it was nonsense that their client was passed over.

 

All the teams that passed were wrong because they ignored the fact that he was not a suspect.  There’s a difference between wanting to be interviewed by authorities surrounding the murder vs being a suspect.  The league’s 32 teams all sapped out without proper cause in being needlessly concerned and then being lackies in paying too much heed to the Agent’s threats of sitting out the year if drafted.  To me Grigson’s only defense is if he was explicitly directed by Irsay not to draft him, otherwise Grigson is guilty of the stupidity, just like all 31 other teams.

 

This is why I was upset during the draft, that it made no sense to blackball Collins being that Authorities were already clear in saying he wasn’t a suspect and because I thought it was worth the risk of a 6th or 7th round pick to call the bluff of his Agent saying they’d sit out the year if chosen after he was passed over in the first two rounds.  Drafting him anyway would have given a year to exclusively come to contract terms ... low risk / high reward.  

 

The fear surrounding Collins made no sense to me at the time and retrospective time has proven that fear to indeed be ridiculous.

 

I know I'm known around here as a Sports Journalism guy (among other things)  but here's something you may not know....     I spent the last 10 years or so ALSO doing news.

 

And here's one of the things I learned that I think most people don't know...

 

The thing you wrote about in your first paragraph...    the part about Collins NOT being a suspect and only a person of interest to be interviewed.....     here's the thing about that.     Police can LEGALLY lie about that.    They can publicly say he's NOT a suspect even if, in fact,  he's the prime suspect.     The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that legal.    So, until he was cleared by blood work that he wasn't the father of the child and not involved in the murder of the woman and her child,  it didn't matter what the police said publicly.

 

If Collins went to the police and there turned out to be a blood connection and he was caught up in a series of lies,  well then he'd be busted.    And your favorite team would've drafted a double-murderer.    That would have been a PR nightmare for any team.     Every team had to wait until he was offically legally cleared.     And that didn't happen until he returned to Louisiana,  gave blood,  and a long interview and was THEN legally cleared.    It sucks for the kid and it sucks for all 32 teams.      But that's how it works.     I promise there's a good reason that all 32 teams passed on the kid.     They understood the possibility -- even a slim chance -- that Collins might've still been guilty.

 

Police can lie about someone NOT being a suspect.    It happens all the time.    That could've been the case with Collins.     

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19 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I know I'm known around here as a Sports Journalism guy (among other things)  but here's something you may not know....     I spent the last 10 years or so ALSO doing news.

 

And here's one of the things I learned that I think most people don't know...

 

The thing you wrote about in your first paragraph...    the part about Collins NOT being a suspect and only a person of interest to be interviewed.....     here's the thing about that.     Police can LEGALLY lie about that.    They can publicly say he's NOT a suspect even if, in fact,  he's the prime suspect.     The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that legal.    So, until he was cleared by blood work that he wasn't the father of the child and not involved in the murder of the woman and her child,  it didn't matter what the police said publicly.

 

If Collins went to the police and there turned out to be a blood connection and he was caught up in a series of lies,  well then he'd be busted.    And your favorite team would've drafted a double-murderer.    That would have been a PR nightmare for any team.     Every team had to wait until he was offically legally cleared.     And that didn't happen until he returned to Louisiana,  gave blood,  and a long interview and was THEN legally cleared.    It sucks for the kid and it sucks for all 32 teams.      But that's how it works.     I promise there's a good reason that all 32 teams passed on the kid.     They understood the possibility -- even a slim chance -- that Collins might've still been guilty.

 

Police can lie about someone NOT being a suspect.    It happens all the time.    That could've been the case with Collins.     

Just curious.... did they ever solve the murder?

 

 

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34 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Price suffered an incomplete tear of the Pectoral muscle and will be out 4 months if he decides to have surgery. 

 

That might drop his draft position to the top of the third.

 

I see this news has already been posted.

Yeah, this would great value if he drops to that range. 

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6 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yeah, this would great value if he drops to that range. 

Torn pecs have a way of lingering or causing reoccurring problems, so when he says the injury is minor, GMs might think twice with their 1st and 2nd round picks.

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