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Even if you don’t like McDaniels and you’re happy about this, this is a serious problem for us.

 

This hurts this team. How many qualified coaches did we turn away in favor of McDaniels?

 

This is...... unreal. 

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I’m not going to sit here and be hypocritical and so oh I always thought he was a bad hire or he is a bad coach...this doesn’t change any of that..but it defiantly changes my views on his decision making and attitude etc. I’m still just shocked beyond belief.

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10 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

??????

 

Odds are he already has IN WRITING an agreement to follow Belichick as the next Patriots HC,  whenever BB retires.

 

He may be hugely unpopular with the other 31 teams,  but he only needs to be popular with one.    The Pats.

 

There's no way he does this without it being in writing.

 

Still won’t be able to fill a staff because he screwed several assistants.  Who would want to work with him...

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Feel terrible for Matt Eberflus, Dave DeGuglielmo and Mike Phair. Hope the new coach can still retain them. 

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Ok Ballard...get back to work.  Who are some of the other candidates that you have lined up.  We still have a boat load of cap space and the #3 pick in the draft.  Luck is still standing in the wings.  Same building blocks are still in place to build a winner.

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I wanted McDaniels as our next coach I'm not ashamed to admit it. However, I don't think I said anything bad about other candidates or those who were against McDaniels. So much for the goodwill that Ballard had supposedly worked out with the Patriots. Even though I am shocked and angry, I do have to admit that it does add excitement to the future of the Colts/Pats Rivalry. It's not time to be doom and gloom. This is one of 32 jobs in the whole world. We will find a qualified and good coach.I still trust Jim and Chris to lead the franchise in the direction we want to go. 

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4 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

You and @Superman have said this is likely intentional, but what's the motivation?  Is it to just blindside the Colts?  Or was McDaniels using it as leverage for his own gig in New England?

 

I think it's revenge for Deflategate, and just a chance to make the Colts look bad and screw up their offseason. Job well done, obviously.

 

And I know no one will believe me, but Belichick with the Jets has been in the back of my mind all along... If we get a first rounder from them like the Jets did, it will kind of be worth it, but I doubt that happens.

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The only reason I'm unhappy is because of the wrench it throws in Ballard's plans.  This guy is a * and we all knew that already.

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12 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I am not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest, but I believe this to be true.

 

 

I don't

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And here's why....

 

McDaniels and Ballard have the same agent.

 

I don't think McDaniels deliberately screws Ballard since they have the same agent.

 

Now....    do I think Kraft knew that McDaniels would love to be the next coach of the Pats and played this out to the last second deliberately?     Sure.      That could be.     But when you're preparing for a SB,  it's not hard to believe that BB was not intersted in talking about his future or talking with Kraft about McDaneils and would simply say,  let's talk about it after the game.

 

But that puts the stink on Kraft and BB and much less so on McDaneils in terms of thing being "deliberate."

 

All that said.....    this sucks for the Colts.     I'm not sure if Ballard hires a one-year temporary HC,  or tries to hire Toub and hope he works out for the best......

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

Nothing is surprising about that. Need to start calling the guy "Backup Plan Ballard." 

 

But this isn't good, at all. Whoever we hire is officially our second choice, and everyone knows it. Maybe our third or fourth choice.

 

Or time to start the interview process afresh. Those guys in Philly never got interviewed. 

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Just now, Dustin said:

I wonder if Ballard has something in his binder for this situation

Reports said he had other candidates already lined up. 

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Just now, John Waylon said:

Even if you don’t like McDaniels and you’re happy about this, this is a serious problem for us.

 

This hurts this team. How many qualified coaches did we turn away in favor of McDaniels?

 

This is...... unreal. 

 

What this does is UN-ruin Andrew Luck's career!

 

We were heading down a dark road with McDaniels!

 

SAVED!!!

 

Slight bump in the road for now. 

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2 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

Colts reportedly had suspicious minds, and have 3 contingency candidates they will move on.  Frank Reich? Jim Schwartz?  Who's #3? 

Toub? 

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Just now, BProland85 said:

 

What the hell?? Did he not officially sign with Indy already? I don’t understand this at all!

 

Did we possibly sense this coming? The announcement was made as a play to prevent this from happening despite the fact that he had not yet actually signed, just verbally agreed. 

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1 minute ago, MTC said:

Feel terrible for Matt Eberflus, Dave DeGuglielmo and Mike Phair. Hope the new coach can still retain them. 

 

The new coach can and will retain them.     Can't imagine who wouldn't retain them.

 

At this late point in the cycle,  there are not a ton of attractive options out there.

 

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6 minutes ago, ricker182 said:

Planned sabotage of an NFL franchise's HC search is not going to go over well with the other 31 teams.  

  

I'd be surprised if there isn't yet another investigation of the patriots. 

Should be cheating * 

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3 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Nothing is surprising about that. Need to start calling the guy "Backup Plan Ballard." 

 

But this isn't good, at all. Whoever we hire is officially our second choice, and everyone knows it. Maybe our third or fourth choice.

This will be a motivating factor

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2 minutes ago, RealityIsLuck said:

Nobody can, or will trust him ever again because they don't wanna be as screwed over as the Colts are now. 

 

I'm not entirely sold on McDaniels, personally. However let's be honest...this league has a short memory when it comes to success. How many teams did Parcells leave high and dry? But they kept hiring him, right?

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2 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I wonder if Ballard has something in his binder for this situation

 

Hope it's a grievance...

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Not only does he blindside the organization, but also all of his assistants.  This affects more than Indianapolis.  McDaniels pretty much just destroyed his reputation in every NFL city other than New England

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5 minutes ago, Dustin said:

 

Revenge for deflategate

I said the same thing.  This was intentional and NOT a last minute thing.

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4 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

I don't understand how this happens after the Colts officially hired McDaniels.

If he signed the contract (he must have since Colts announced him as the new coach) Colts should get something out of it.

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3 minutes ago, RealityIsLuck said:

...plenty of time to find a new head coach?!?!?! CUTE. 

 

It's been over a MONTH since the colts fired Pagano, all the top candidate are gone. The other guys the Colts liked (Vrabel, Wilks, etc) are long gone. This is horrible scenario to be in. No way to sweeten this or make it sound better than it is the Colts are f*'d 

 

I thought Vrabel signed with Tenn before you guys sent an offer to Josh.   But i kind of forget.  

 

It is not the best situation, I agree and sucks for you guys.  It tough when one wants a coach who is still active in the playoffs.  I wish the coaching hiring did not start till after the season. 

 

We do not know how Josh left it with the Colts FO, perhaps he let them know he would not make a final decision till after the SB.  Who knows.  

 

it really sucks if he made a verbal commitment then backed out, that is just not right. 

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3 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

That raises some eyebrows.  Even the Colts thought this could happen?  I can't imagine any scenario where a team hires a head coach, but has enough doubt to have 3-4 other candidates ready to go

 A poorly run team, maybe?

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Ultimate blow by that parasite Kraft in NE...Had this in the workings I bet..."Sweetening" McDaniels's contract...

Now, of course, we get to hire another guy who knows damn full well he wasn't the first choice...Can't believe my hatred for that organization could possibly deepen...

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5 minutes ago, Dustin said:

 

Revenge for deflategate

 

3 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I think it's revenge for Deflategate, and just a chance to make the Colts look bad and screw up their offseason. Job well done, obviously.

 

And I know no one will believe me, but Belichick with the Jets has been in the back of my mind all along... If we get a first rounder from them like the Jets did, it will kind of be worth it, but I doubt that happens.

For Belichick, a guy who is quite mature and not worried about this kind of stuff, this seems unusually petty

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1 minute ago, deedub75 said:

 A poorly run team, maybe?

Are you suggesting the Colts are a poorly run team?  Hard to see any fault with what they did.

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24 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I think it's revenge for Deflategate, and just a chance to make the Colts look bad and screw up their offseason. Job well done, obviously.

 

And I know no one will believe me, but Belichick with the Jets has been in the back of my mind all along... If we get a first rounder from them like the Jets did, it will kind of be worth it, but I doubt that happens.

 

It wasn't similar situation, BB with the Jets and McD and us. Except BB and McD screwed us and the Jets.

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20 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

LOL!

 

And I was the.... for not wanting him. LOL

 

I just want to thank all the people who called me the $*&^&%! for not wanting Josh McCheat! You guys are my hero's!

 

:D

 

This news has made my day.

Oh you being right is more important than the Colts getting McDaniels?  Figures.

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I'd wager it's at least partially if not totally deflategate related.. Which is fascinating, since it was the Patriots/Dorito Doink/The Deflator/Brady breaking the rules, not the Colts. 

 

What a miserable bunch. I really genuinely hate that team. All of these media types trying to suggest somehow I'm small minded for not enjoying their crap.. 

 

So glad they lost that game Sunday. 

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24 minutes ago, axillarymac05 said:

Oh well the Patriots ship is sinking, I guess he wants to go down with them. I'm confident Ballard has a plan.

 

You're confident that Ballard has a plan? 

 

Are you serious!

 

You mean like the plan he had to hire a worthless coach that totally embarrassed him and the Colts?

 

Ballard is going to take a big hit from this as he should. 

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6 minutes ago, Old Colt said:

Can't believe Colts would announce anything without a signed deal.... if he backed out of that the league needs to look at tampering by NE..  COACH GATE:gym:

 

Great Post!!              :thmup:

 

I think this is a very, VERY strong point.

 

If I'm Chris Ballard,  I'm on the phone with the NFL and telling them the Pats can keep McDaniels. 

 

And we'll be happy to take their FIRST ROUND PICKS THE NEXT TWO YEARS!!   Period.       :colts:

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13 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Yes it was intentional.  This was planned for quite a while.

feels like it doesn't it?

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