McDaniels Co-Ordinators Lined Up

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Don't know anything about Eberflus. Monachino was coming with a background as a LB coach too, and was thought to be a future DC with Ravens, right? One positive could be that McDaniels likes to be very well-prepared, so hopefully he has picked Eberflus for the same quality. Thoughts?

[Creekside]

15 hours ago, krunk said:

Can't wait to see how Josh uses some of our personnel. I can totally see Chester Rogers in Danny Amendolas role. I can definitely see him making great use of Mack. He will probably get used a lot like what we saw Saturday night or much in the same way Mcdaniels used Knowshon Moreno in Denver. Definitely want to see what he does with Swoope and Doyle.

 

It's going to be like walking out of a dark room into bright sunlight.....a lot of squinting, stumbling about trying to focus, and then....wow, look at that....

[dgambill]

17 hours ago, Luck 4 president said:

I wouldn’t be concerned about the OC. McDaniels is going to be calling the plays anyways.

Agreed. The OC would likely be working with the qb more and helping run and install plays in practice etc...but on game day I look for McDaniels to call plays unless an issue arises. Not that worried about the offense. Heard good things from Eberflus but we need to get him some playmakers at OLB/ILB or he will be hurting.

[Coltfreak]

15 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Offense:   Luck improved in 16.    And Brissett did well under difficult circumstanes.   Others who improved,  Doyle and Swoope and Rodgers and some guy named Hilton.    So did AC.    So did Turbin.

 

Defense:  Sheard had a decent seaason.   As did Hankins and Woods and Hunt and Mingo and Simon.    How about the secondary, where Melvin and Desir and Hairston and Farley and Milton and Moore.

 

I appreciate that the season was terrible,  but that doesn't mean there weren't bright spots.    Simply trying to say that nobody improved or got better under Chud and Ted is demonstrably false.

 

Lucks best yr was Peps last yr.   not Chuds first yr or anytime after Chud took over.  although he played well in 16.  14 was Lucks best yr 

[shasta519]

1 hour ago, Coltfreak said:

Lucks best yr was Peps last yr.   not Chuds first yr or anytime after Chud took over.  although he played well in 16.  14 was Lucks best yr 

 

Yep...Hilton's best and most productive year was 2014. He pulled a hamstring in the Week 15 game against HOU and missed the Week 16 game against DAL...and only played sparingly against TEN in Week 17 (only 23 offensive snaps).

 

If he doesn't get hurt, 2014 is easily the best season of his career to date (and might have been when it's all said and done). He breaks 1,500 yards that season and would have had an outside shot at 10 TDs.

[maxgamestate]

I vote for Peyton Manning for QB coach

[chad72]

5 hours ago, dgambill said:

Agreed. The OC would likely be working with the qb more and helping run and install plays in practice etc...but on game day I look for McDaniels to call plays unless an issue arises. Not that worried about the offense. Heard good things from Eberflus but we need to get him some playmakers at OLB/ILB or he will be hurting.

 

An HC typically gets more years of rope than co-ordinators, and a 2 year turnaround on defense to possibly a Top 10 D (at least in terms of yards or ppg) is not an unrealistic expectation, IMO, though I won't hold my breath. I am sure Ballard would give them all the horses they need. 

 

Sometimes, most of the same players, with much better coaching, respond well too. Look at the 49ers squad when Harbaugh took over for Singletary, very few roster changes but huge changes in results.

[Restored]

21 hours ago, krunk said:

I think the Pats are being given too much credit. That Jax team is pretty good. A better team than Tenn. They will do a much better job defensively than Tenn. A much better secondary and lets not forget they had 55 sacks this year. They will definitely harass Brady. Will boil down to Bortles as usual, but hes been playing much better ball. I can actually see Jax possibly getting a win. Doesnt mean a whole lot but Jax beat them in the preseason. They didnt have much answer for Fournette. I could see Jax putting up a great fight if they play clean and tough ball. I'm not going to just write them off in the blowout category just yet.

 

Depends on how effective Fournette will be with his injury and if Bortles plays out of his mind. It would be one of

the biggest upsets in league history if they won though.

[dgambill]

13 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

An HC typically gets more years of rope than co-ordinators, and a 2 year turnaround on defense to possibly a Top 10 D (at least in terms of yards or ppg) is not an unrealistic expectation, IMO, though I won't hold my breath. I am sure Ballard would give them all the horses they need. 

 

Sometimes, most of the same players, with much better coaching, respond well too. Look at the 49ers squad when Harbaugh took over for Singletary, very few roster changes but huge changes in results.

Normally I would agree with a lot of that...but most of the guys at our LB core are cast offs or not highly desired free agents. If they couldn't stick with a couple other teams or at least been disappointing to this point I doubt a new coordinator is going to change a lot. I just want him to work with the young guys we have...and see improvement. Guys like Bostic, Mingo, Sheard, Woods, Hunt etc...they pretty much are what they are. Some are somewhat effective but I don't think we are going to suddenly see huge improvement in them. The secondary and some of our young guys like Basham and Walker though are whom I really want to see some growth. I'm hopeful....I think Dallas has played some pretty good defense when they had guys healthy and played even above their expectations so it would be nice to get that out of our unit...and if we land some more help in the draft...maybe get this defense into the top half of the league instead of the bottom.

[stitches]

Here's an interesting tidbit I stumbled upon. It seems like Jake Peetz is highly regarded in NFL circles as an offensive mind on the rise. Greg Cosell was on radio in Tennessee and they talked about potential coaching candidates for the TItans. After they went through all the names that are being thrown around their coaching job, the host asked Cosell if there is some name that nobody is talking about but is highly regarded and might be good offensive coach to pair up with Mariota. He thought for a while going through all the team and he finally said Jake Peetz from Oakland is a name of a good young coach who is probably not ready to be a head coach, but he can be a guy to be on a staff as a QB specialist(the question starts at 23:50):

 

https://audioboom.com/posts/6603498-nfl-films-greg-cosell-with-the-midday-180-gregcosell

[MariGOATa]

2 minutes ago, stitches said:

Here's an interesting tidbit I stumbled upon. It seems like Jake Peetz is highly regarded in NFL circles as an offensive mind. Greg Cosell was on radio in Tennessee and they talked about potential coaching candidates for the TItans. After they went through all the names that are being thrown around their coaching job, the host asked Cosell if there is some name that nobody is talking about but is highly regarded and might be good offensive coach to pair up with Mariota. He thought for a while and he said Jake Peetz from Oakland is a name of a young coach who is probably not ready to be a head coach, but he can be a guy to be on a staff as a QB specialist(the question starts at 23:50):

 

https://audioboom.com/posts/6603498-nfl-films-greg-cosell-with-the-midday-180-gregcosell

 

I dont want to have anything to do with the coaching staff of Del Rio. He got fired for a reason.

[stitches]

Just now, MariGOATa said:

 

I dont want to have anything to do with the coaching staff of Del Rio. He got fired for a reason.

What does that even mean? You don't think there can be good people on a staff lead by a fired coach? Or good players on a losing team? This makes no sense. 

[MariGOATa]

14 minutes ago, stitches said:

What does that even mean? You don't think there can be good people on a staff lead by a fired coach? Or good players on a losing team? This makes no sense. 

 

Jake Paatz was a QB coach in Oakland. The same coach that coached Derek Carr to one of his worst years in his pro career. Pass.

[csmopar]

5 minutes ago, MariGOATa said:

 

Jake Paatz was a QB coach in Oakland. The same coach that coached Derek Carr to one of his worst years in his pro career. Pass.

Ignore this guy. He's a titans fan, 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

On 1/16/2018 at 2:13 PM, Coltfreak said:

Lucks best yr was Peps last yr.   not Chuds first yr or anytime after Chud took over.  although he played well in 16.  14 was Lucks best yr 

Disagree

[Coltfreak]

Just now, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

Disagree

Numbers don't lie.....     and when you check them and see they are better in 14   Take a minute  to compare who was playing on the Oline in each year.  Who was the center?????     Also don't forget who the RB was. 

 

 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

1 minute ago, Coltfreak said:

Numbers don't lie.....     and when you check them and see they are better in 14   Take a minute  to compare who was playing on the Oline in each year.  Who was the center?????     Also don't forget who the RB was. 

 

 

How many interceptions each year? Also take into account Luck was playing with and injured shoulder & I believe his completion % was higher with Chud? I personally hated Pep.

[Coltfreak]

19 minutes ago, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

How many interceptions each year? Also take into account Luck was playing with and injured shoulder & I believe his completion % was higher with Chud? I personally hated Pep.

TD to Int.  2014-  40-16.  Compared to 32-13 in 2016. Completion percentage was about the same.  Sacked 41 times in 16. Only 27 in 2014.

 

3rd ranked passing offense in 14.  8th in 16

 

 

Again.  The Oline that he played behind in 2014 Was bad....  really bad....   And Trent Richardson was the RB in 14. So no one respected the run.  Bradshaw was there but he got limited carries compared to Trent

 

And of course went to the AFCCG in 2014

 

 

Everyone can say whatever they want but Pep's offense was better than Chuds.  Pep my not have been great but he was better than Chud.   And of course it was the offens that Luck knew in his sleep.

 

But to be fair to both.....   A lot of the scheme may have been dictated by a HC that was looking for something that just wasn't a strength to the team and especially Luck

 

 

 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

3 minutes ago, Coltfreak said:

TD to Int.  2014-  40-16.  Compared to 32-13 in 2016. Completion percentage was about the same.  Sacked 41 times in 16. Only 27 in 2014.

 

3rd ranked passing offense in 14.  8th in 16

 

 

Again.  The Oline that he played behind in 2014 Was bad....  really bad....   And Trent Richardson was the RB in 14. So no one respected the run.  Bradshaw was there but he got limited carries compared to Trent

 

And of course went to the AFCCG in 2014

 

 

Everyone can say whatever they want but Pep's offense was better than Chuds.  Pep my not have been great but he was better than Chud.   And of course it was the offens that Luck knew in his sleep.

 

But to be fair to both.....   A lot of the scheme may have been dictated by a HC that was looking for something that just wasn't a strength to the team and especially Luck

 

 

 

The years are very close.  so IMO one or the other. each to his own.  Both lines sucked, Luck did know the offense better no doubt, but IMO PEP was WAYYYYY to predictable! But as you said, both could have been coach influenced?

[B~Town]

On ‎1‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 9:37 PM, Restored said:

 

Depends on how effective Fournette will be with his injury and if Bortles plays out of his mind. It would be one of

the biggest upsets in league history if they won though.

Don't write Jax off they have the D to give the Pats fits they will man up a lot disrupting timing double down on Gronk and get after Brady . 

[Clem-Dog]

6 hours ago, MariGOATa said:

 

Jake Paatz was a QB coach in Oakland. The same coach that coached Derek Carr to one of his worst years in his pro career. Pass.

 

McD will teach Peetz and with some Luck he will be successful.  

[CheezyColt]

14 hours ago, MariGOATa said:

 

I dont want to have anything to do with the coaching staff of Del Rio. He got fired for a reason.

That reason was a marketing one for season ticket sales during the upcoming relocation.

 

Gruden = $$$

He is the cannon ball of splash hires.

[Aaron86]

14 hours ago, Coltfreak said:

TD to Int.  2014-  40-16.  Compared to 32-13 in 2016. Completion percentage was about the same.  Sacked 41 times in 16. Only 27 in 2014.

 

3rd ranked passing offense in 14.  8th in 16

 

 

Again.  The Oline that he played behind in 2014 Was bad....  really bad....   And Trent Richardson was the RB in 14. So no one respected the run.  Bradshaw was there but he got limited carries compared to Trent

 

And of course went to the AFCCG in 2014

 

 

Everyone can say whatever they want but Pep's offense was better than Chuds.  Pep my not have been great but he was better than Chud.   And of course it was the offens that Luck knew in his sleep.

 

But to be fair to both.....   A lot of the scheme may have been dictated by a HC that was looking for something that just wasn't a strength to the team and especially Luck

 

 

 

I feel bad for Pep. Grigson gave him very little help. That oline was horrible running back was really bad. Kinda shows you how good Andrew really is. 

[Dr. T]

11 hours ago, Clem-Dog said:

 

McD will teach Peetz and with some Luck he will be successful.  

I see what you did there ...

[MariGOATa]

4 hours ago, CheezyColt said:

That reason was a marketing one for season ticket sales during the upcoming relocation.

 

Gruden = $$$

He is the cannon ball of splash hires.

 

Bullcrap. Gruden is a very good coach thats why they signed him, had nothing to do with $$$$$

 

Del Rio got fired because hes a mediocre coach like Mularkey. Great for culture change but thats their ceiling. Period.

[CheezyColt]

44 minutes ago, MariGOATa said:

 

Bullcrap. Gruden is a very good coach thats why they signed him, had nothing to do with $$$$$

 

Del Rio got fired because hes a mediocre coach like Mularkey. Great for culture change but thats their ceiling. Period.

I don't buy that for a second.  But to each their own I suppose.

[MariGOATa]

2 hours ago, CheezyColt said:

I don't buy that for a second.  But to each their own I suppose.

 

So your dont buy Del Rio being a bad coach??? There’s a reason these two buffoons got fired from one of the worst franchises in the league.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

On 1/16/2018 at 1:26 AM, NewColtsFan said:

 

Offense:   Luck improved in 16.    And Brissett did well under difficult circumstanes.   Others who improved,  Doyle and Swoope and Rodgers and some guy named Hilton.    So did AC.    So did Turbin.

 

Defense:  Sheard had a decent seaason.   As did Hankins and Woods and Hunt and Mingo and Simon.    How about the secondary, where Melvin and Desir and Hairston and Farley and Milton and Moore.

 

I appreciate that the season was terrible,  but that doesn't mean there weren't bright spots.    Simply trying to say that nobody improved or got better under Chud and Ted is demonstrably false.

 

 

It seemed to me Hilton was missing in action most of last season as a # 1 WR he just look very good to me . 

[NewColtsFan]

22 minutes ago, ÅÐØNϧ 1 said:

 

It seemed to me Hilton was missing in action most of last season as a # 1 WR he just look very good to me . 

 

Yes....    Hilton had a disappointing season.    Most seem to chalk that up to playing with Brissett.    Some falloff was expected...