Matt Nagy to interview with Colts on Sunday

[RockThatBlue]

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Going to be a busy Sunday for him

[twfish]

A coordinator with 2 months of calling the plays just isn't enough for me. But if anyone knows the ins and outs of what he does and does well it is Ballard. Not a huge fan of most of the candidates this year

[throwing BBZ]

If you have no idea what a candidate is good/excels at, what is your opinion worth? Yawn.

[twfish]

37 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

If you have no idea what a candidate is good/excels at, what is your opinion worth? Yawn.

I reckon you meant to quote me in this. I stated the Ballard knows him well. In fact he likely knows him much better than any of the other teams interviewing him so he would know. As far as my opinion worth? Same as yours, same as everyone else's on this forum. We are all just fans of the Colts on a forum that's provided by the Colts to discuss things amongst ourselves.

[krunk]

Wilks I think is my guy. Nagy or Toub are my second options. McDaniels I still dont entirely trust from a dealing with people perspective. He has my trust from an Xs and Os perspective. I'm not at the point where I am set against him. I just don't feel like guys would rally around him

[DraftMaster]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

Wilks I think is my guy. Nagy or Toub are my second options. McDaniels I still dont entirely trust from a dealing with people perspective. He has my trust from an Xs and Os perspective. I'm not at the point where I am set against him. I just don't feel like guys would rally around him

I'm undecided, but I like Kris Richard.

[Bravo]

Nagy is my #1. Heck of an OC. Not 100% sure how it will translate to HC but this guy know how to scheme, attack, and get playmakers the ball. Not sure how much Reid influences the calls though.

[DaveA1102]

It's amazing how you can form an opinion and hopes for the hire based on so little knowledge! That comment is aimed at myself before anyone thinks I am throwing shots! 

 

At the moment my preference is Nagy, Richard then McDaniels. 

[Coltsman1788]

Any of the candidates but McDaniels is kind of how I feel. I'm intrigued by Richard and Wilks because of what they might bring to our defense.  I could also live with Toub or Nagy if Ballard is confident in them. 

[richard pallo]

I'm leaning towards Nagy but I'm warming up to Wilks. 

[LockeDown]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

Wilks I think is my guy. Nagy or Toub are my second options. McDaniels I still dont entirely trust from a dealing with people perspective. He has my trust from an Xs and Os perspective. I'm not at the point where I am set against him. I just don't feel like guys would rally around him

That's where I'm at pretty much, except that I would put Toub over Nagy slightly.  And that's only from reading their bio's...I wish Josh would just be our OC and not our HC.

[jshipp23]

I would like a Wilks as Head Coach, and Lane Kiffin as OC combo.....Kiffin has an elite offensive mind and I feel a guy with a presence like Wilks will keep Kiffin in line....Wilks reminds me so much of Tomlin Charisma wise,  and might be better at x's and o's.. Other than Belichik,  Tomlin is best head coach and leader of men in NFL...Wilks is the 2nd coming of Tomlin mark my words....I hope we don't miss out on him....

[jshipp23]

Nagy is a figurehead, Reid runs that offense and sets the gameplan....

[krunk]

6 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Nagy is a figurehead, Reid runs that offense and sets the gameplan....

Nagy calls the plays.   Reid handed over to him

[Four2itus]

1 hour ago, DaveA1102 said:

It's amazing how you can form an opinion and hopes for the hire based on so little knowledge! That comment is aimed at myself before anyone thinks I am throwing shots! 

 

At the moment my preference is Nagy, Richard then McDaniels. 

I respect that statement. For me, I feel comfortable with Ballard making this decision. It is the biggest decision he has had to make as a Colt. 

[jshipp23]

3 minutes ago, krunk said:

Nagy calls the plays.   Reid handed over to him

Im not saying he doesn't call the plays last 2 months, but if you don't think Reid has a certain directive of what plays to call you are fooling yourself....Reid has his hands all over that offense, its HIS offense...

[krunk]

6 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Im not saying he doesn't call the plays last 2 months, but if you don't think Reid has a certain directive of what plays to call you are fooling yourself....Reid has his hands all over that offense, its HIS offense...

You can say that about any offensive/defensive coordinator.   Does that mean we should stay away from Coordinators?

What about Rivera?  Does he have his hands all over Wilks defense?   You see how that can be flipped?

[krunk]

7 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Im not saying he doesn't call the plays last 2 months, but if you don't think Reid has a certain directive of what plays to call you are fooling yourself....Reid has his hands all over that offense, its HIS offense...

My second point is Nagy runs that offense very different from Reid.  Nagy is going to stay consistent with the run game and he takes way more deep shots than Reid.   They are scoring way more points under Nagy than they've ever done with Andy Reid.  If he was just a figure head I don't think that would be happening.  Nagy has definitely added his own flavor to the mix. 

[jshipp23]

Just now, krunk said:

You can say that about any offensive coordinator.   Does that mean we should stay away from Coordinators?

What about Rivera?  Does he have his hands all over Wilks defense?   You see how that can be flipped?

I get what you're saying...He very well might be great OC he learned from 1 of the best, but HC involves much more than that....Guys got to follow you I'm not sure Nagy has that IT factor....McVeigh for example has a great offensive mind, but also has that IT factor that's Gruden like, and guys buy into him and trust him in my opinion, which means nothing...I don't see that in McDaniels, Toub, or Nagy....Wilks and Richard to a lesser degree have it....Of current candidates those would be my top 2 at the moment....I think McDaniels could make our offense scary, but guys could also be  turned off by his personality....It could be special, or just as easily get ugly with McDaniels...

[jshipp23]

Every candidate will be a STEP up from Pagano so we will be better off no matter what.....I do think Pagano could excel in college, especially recruiting....Somebody should give him a look in college, it could translate well for him there...

[krunk]

5 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

I get what you're saying...He very well might be great OC he learned from 1 of the best, but HC involves much more than that....Guys got to follow you I'm not sure Nagy has that IT factor....McVeigh for example has a great offensive mind, but also has that IT factor that's Gruden like, and guys buy into him and trust him in my opinion, which means nothing...I don't see that in McDaniels, Toub, or Nagy....Wilks and Richard to a lesser degree have it....Of current candidates those would be my top 2 at the moment....I think McDaniels could make our offense scary, but guys could also be  turned off by his personality....It could be special, or just as easily get ugly with McDaniels...

I get you also, but my stance is there is different types of leaders.  Guys like Wilks have that big presence and they are very precise about what they want and how to go about getting it done and they make it crystal clear to everyone and are very open about it.   I do believe he has a similar approach to Mike Tomlin in some ways and I like that style the best.    Then you have guys like Dungy who are quiet/calm types but very sure about their approach.   Nagy kind of reminds me of Dungy in some ways, but not entirely.   He's got his own leadership style.   Initially I had some doubts on him too, but I kept listening to different clips to get a feel for how he maybe would do things.   Plus Reid has given him a strong endorsement and it's obvious Ballard feels he's got it as well.  I just think Nagy is a different leadership style than Wilks.     Toub is also a different style than both of them.  I don't think Toub would have much problem getting respect, but I do have a little pause or maybe even bias about his experience level to tell the truth.  But he does have a history of developing elite special teams units so you do have some proof of his ability to lead, teach and develop, and that translates directly into Head Coaching .

[jshipp23]

4 minutes ago, krunk said:

I get you also, but my stance is there is different types of leaders.  Guys like Wilks have that big presence and they are very precise about what they want and how to go about getting it done and they make it crystal clear to everyone and are very open about it.   I do believe he has a similar approach to Mike Tomlin in some ways and I like that style the best.    Then you have guys like Dungy who are quiet/calm types but very sure about their approach.   Nagy kind of reminds me of Dungy in some ways, but not entirely.   He's got his own leadership style.   Initially I had some doubts on him too, but I kept listening to different clips to get a feel for how he maybe would do things.   Plus Reid has given him a strong endorsement and it's obvious Ballard feels he's got it as well.  I just think Nagy is a different leadership style than Wilks.     Toub is also a different style than both of them.  I don't think Toub would have much problem getting respect, but I do have a little pause or maybe even bias about his experience level to tell the truth.  But he does have a history of developing elite special teams units so you do have some proof of his ability to lead, teach and develop, and that translates directly into Head Coaching .

My biggest issue with Toub is his success would be too dependent on his staff....If he could get a great oc and dc and keep them it could work...I want a  HC that is an elite mind and leader on 1 side of the ball.....

[richard pallo]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

I get you also, but my stance is there is different types of leaders.  Guys like Wilks have that big presence and they are very precise about what they want and how to go about getting it done and they make it crystal clear to everyone and are very open about it.   I do believe he has a similar approach to Mike Tomlin in some ways and I like that style the best.    Then you have guys like Dungy who are quiet/calm types but very sure about their approach.   Nagy kind of reminds me of Dungy in some ways, but not entirely.   He's got his own leadership style.   Initially I had some doubts on him too, but I kept listening to different clips to get a feel for how he maybe would do things.   Plus Reid has given him a strong endorsement and it's obvious Ballard feels he's got it as well.  I just think Nagy is a different leadership style than Wilks.     Toub is also a different style than both of them.  I don't think Toub would have much problem getting respect, but I do have a little pause or maybe even bias about his experience level to tell the truth.  But he does have a history of developing elite special teams units so you do have some proof of his ability to lead, teach and develop, and that translates directly into Head Coaching .

I agree. There are different types of leaders with different styles and personalities.  They have to be able to work with the GM and front office and also obtain results on the field.  Polian was laid back as was Dungy.  People compare Tomlin to Wilks who appears to be of a more fiery and in your face coach.  I wonder how that would work with Ballard who appears more laid back.  I see Nagy and Toub and McDaniels as more laid back.  BB is sort of like Tomlin but he is also the GM.  Ballard certainly picked a lot of different personalties to sort out as well as the X's and O's. 

[krunk]

6 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I agree. There are different types of leaders with different styles and personalities.  They have to be able to work with the GM and front office and also obtain results on the field.  Polian was laid back as was Dungy.  People compare Tomlin to Wilks who appears to be of a more fiery and in your face coach.  I wonder how that would work with Ballard who appears more laid back.  I see Nagy and Toub and McDaniels as more laid back.  BB is sort of like Tomlin but he is also the GM.  Ballard certainly picked a lot of different personalties to sort out as well as the X's and O's. 

The good thing is most of the  guys that we've discussed   Toub, Nagy, Wilks   Ballard already had relationships with prior to the Colts.  He's already worked with Toub, Nagy, and Wilks in some form or shape.  Maybe not as a GM but he has a decent understanding of their makeups.  Mcdaniels we are finding out Ballard also has a good relationship with.

[jshipp23]

5 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I agree. There are different types of leaders with different styles and personalities.  They have to be able to work with the GM and front office and also obtain results on the field.  Polian was laid back as was Dungy.  People compare Tomlin to Wilks who appears to be of a more fiery and in your face coach.  I wonder how that would work with Ballard who appears more laid back.  I see Nagy and Toub and McDaniels as more laid back.  BB is sort of like Tomlin but he is also the GM.  Ballard certainly picked a lot of different personalties to sort out as well as the X's and O's. 

I've never been a fan of the laid back approach, it worked for guys like Dungy , Shula, and Walsh....I think they are more the exception than the rule...I prefer a Parcells, Tomlin, Gruden, Jimmy Johnson type. ....Whether the players like them or not, they feared them and wanted their respect....We have done the laid back style last 3 HC's, lets go a different route this time see what happens.....

[jshipp23]

After six years of Pagono that locker room is in need of a serious culture change and reality check....Weed out the weak links...

[snkdy]

I would be happy if we hired him. KC looks fantastic so far. The play-calling has been excellent and Alex looks like a top QB. 

[WoolMagnet]

Watching the playoff game now, hard to ignore the offense.  It's

also hard to go wrong with that cowching tree.  Lots of success there.

i cant wait to see who is picked.

[WoolMagnet]

4 hours ago, twfish said:

I reckon you meant to quote me in this. I stated the Ballard knows him well. In fact he likely knows him much better than any of the other teams interviewing him so he would know. As far as my opinion worth? Same as yours, same as everyone else's on this forum. We are all just fans of the Colts on a forum that's provided by the Colts to discuss things amongst ourselves.

I kinda think i feel the way you might.  No coach is really grabbing me either.  Alot of that is that coordinators arent talked about like head coaches.  I also think the lack of interest for me in football in general this year has created a disconnect for me and the league.  I havent really paid attention to ANYTHING football except to watch the weekly Colt game and to check this forum.

i think i dont know enuff about any of them to really get excited about them.  And i'm sure my anti-"anything Pats" has soured me toward McDaniel.

i'll trust in Jim and Ballard and give my support (and hopes and dreams) to whomever is hired. My gut tells me Ballard will get it right.

[#12.]

Dude has a great beard - one thing he has over McDaniels.

 

At first glance, one couldn't decide if McDaniels is 12 or 40.

[Coltsfanforlife12]

Anyone but Toub, Vrabel, it Wilks... I do not get everyone’s love on the board for Toub.  He’s never run an offense or defense... at least Hatvough had some experience other than special teams... I’ll loose my mind if it’s Toub because it means we’ll waste the rest of Lucks career....

[MarquisJ]

watching this game boy is matt nagy dialing it up right now but we do have to understand they have the leading rusher the 2nd best TE in the league with an electric thill a lot of weapons there but the play calling is still magnificent so far (first half)

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, MarquisJ said:

watching this game boy is matt nagy dialing it up right now but we do have to understand they have the leading rusher the 2nd best TE in the league with an electric thill a lot of weapons there but the play calling is still magnificent so far (first half)

In our Poll I voted Nagy. Last I looked he was 2nd in here so a lot in here like him.

[crazycolt1]

5 minutes ago, Coltsfanforlife12 said:

Anyone but Toub, Vrabel, it Wilks... I do not get everyone’s love on the board for Toub.  He’s never run an offense or defense... at least Hatvough had some experience other than special teams... I’ll loose my mind if it’s Toub because it means we’ll waste the rest of Lucks career....

I understand why you feel that way but try to keep in mind the head coaches job. It is to put the coordinators and assistants together and make things work for the players to follow, teach and do their jobs. Him running an offense or defense is not really the key. The key is to hire the correct people and put them together to win games. The head coaches job is more management than being a coach to the players.

[richard pallo]

7 minutes ago, MarquisJ said:

watching this game boy is matt nagy dialing it up right now but we do have to understand they have the leading rusher the 2nd best TE in the league with an electric thill a lot of weapons there but the play calling is still magnificent so far (first half)

That's some offense he's calling the plays for.  Can you imagine Andrew with a system like that.  Especially with Barclay in the backfield. 

[Coltfreak]

3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

That's some offense he's calling the plays for.  Can you imagine Andrew with a system like that.  Especially with Barclay in the backfield. 

I actually think Mack would do very well in that offense

[richard pallo]

3 minutes ago, Coltfreak said:

I actually think Mack would do very well in that offense

I think he would be effective as a change up but he can't pass protect.  I think we need a back who can do it all.  Big difference between the best player in the draft and Mack. 

[Coltfreak]

4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I think he would be effective as a change up but he can't pass protect.  I think we need a back who can do it all.  Big difference between the best player in the draft and Mack. 

The good thing with relying on the draft for a RB is that you have them on a rookie contract for 4-5 yrs.   Look at what the Steelers had to give out for Bell last yr...  12million on a one yr deal and   His market value this yr is 10.6.    

[esmort]

18 minutes ago, Coltfreak said:

The good thing with relying on the draft for a RB is that you have them on a rookie contract for 4-5 yrs.   Look at what the Steelers had to give out for Bell last yr...  12million on a one yr deal and   His market value this yr is 10.6.    

 

That applies to all positions... and other positions offer even better savings on the rookie deal than RB.