McShay's First 2018 Mock Draft.....

[NewColtsFan]

 

So.....

 

Now that college football's regular season is over,  Todd McShay has released his first mock.

 

And with the 3rd overall pick,  McShay gives the Colts,  Bradley Chubb,  the DE from NC State.     McShay has Chubb as the Best Player Available behind Darnold and Rosen.

 

But wait....

 

That was the pick on ESPN.com....      on actual ESPN television, McShay said picking 3rd would give the Colts a great chance to trade back (which his mocks do not reflect)  and pick up draft picks.     That's what he's expecting the Colts to do.

McShay noted the Colts have so many pressing needs that trading back makes the most sense for the team.

 

 

[Defjamz26]

2 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

So.....

 

Now that college football's regular season is over,  Todd McShay has released his first mock.

 

And with the 3rd overall pick,  McShay gives the Colts,  Bradley Chubb,  the DE from NC State.     McShay has Chubb as the Best Player Available behind Darnold and Rosen.

 

But wait....

 

That was the pick on ESPN.com....      on actual ESPN television, McShay said picking 3rd would give the Colts a great chance to trade back (which his mocks do not reflect)  and pick up draft picks.     That's what he's expecting the Colts to do.

McShay noted the Colts have so many pressing needs that trading back makes the most sense for the team.

 

 

Yeah that seems to be the hot pick for us right now, much like how Dalvin Cook was around this time last year. I also saw an article which may have also been from ESPN, where they were saying that the Colts winning would be a bad thing because they could play themselves out of being able to get Chubb. I try and stay open minded so maybe I'll have to re-evaluate Chubb

[NewColtsFan]

30 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Yeah that seems to be the hot pick for us right now, much like how Dalvin Cook was around this time last year. I also saw an article which may have also been from ESPN, where they were saying that the Colts winning would be a bad thing because they could play themselves out of being able to get Chubb. I try and stay open minded so maybe I'll have to re-evaluate Chubb

 

Well.....     no matter who is there, or not there,  what picking 3-5 might do is give us a chance to trade down.......

 

And that might turn out to be the best thing for the Colts to do in the long run.....

 

Just thinking out loud....

 

[DougDew]

Chubb is more of a 43 RDE.  I can see some teams may value him highly and offer a trade.  Not a huge deal like for a QB, but enough for us to maybe pick up an extra 2 and 4.  

[stitches]

Guys, don't rule out change of scheme with the new coach and coordinators. 

[Defjamz26]

Well the Giants losing isn't helping our chances of moving up to #2. But we are still sitting comfy at 3

[NewColtsFan]

6 hours ago, DougDew said:

Chubb is more of a 43 RDE.  I can see some teams may value him highly and offer a trade.  Not a huge deal like for a QB, but enough for us to maybe pick up an extra 2 and 4.  

 

I think it's possible for the Colts to draft Chubb and then move him to Safety where Hooker is clearly a bust.

 

Maybe we can snooker another team into giving us a 7 for Hooker.      I think we've seen enough to know how terrible he is.       Chubb can be the intimidator in the middle of the field.

 

 

[crazycolt1]

29 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I think it's possible for the Colts to draft Chubb and then move him to Safety where Hooker is clearly a bust.

 

Maybe we can snooker another team into giving us a 7 for Hooker.      I think we've seen enough to know how terrible he is.       Chubb can be the intimidator in the middle of the field.

 

 

IMO I don't think we have seen enough of Hooker to come to the conclusion of him being a bust. On average it normally takes two or three seasons for a player to learn his position and adjust to the NFL.

With that said we can always use a player like Chubb. Depth is something that we are in dire need of and Hooker could fill that need if need be. If Chubb is drafted let the two compete for the position.

[jskinnz]

6 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

IMO I don't think we have seen enough of Hooker to come to the conclusion of him being a bust. On average it normally takes two or three seasons for a player to learn his position and adjust to the NFL.

With that said we can always use a player like Chubb. Depth is something that we are in dire need of and Hooker could fill that need if need be. If Chubb is drafted let the two compete for the position.

 

Clearly you have to see his sarcasm, no?

 

[crazycolt1]

34 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

Clearly you have to see his sarcasm, no?

 

Evidently I didn't because there was no clue.

[Indy Fan]

48 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

IMO I don't think we have seen enough of Hooker to come to the conclusion of him being a bust. On average it normally takes two or three seasons for a player to learn his position and adjust to the NFL.

With that said we can always use a player like Chubb. Depth is something that we are in dire need of and Hooker could fill that need if need be. If Chubb is drafted let the two compete for the position.

One is a safety and one is a 4-3 End or 3-4 OLB not sure how they would compete.

[NewColtsFan]

43 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

IMO I don't think we have seen enough of Hooker to come to the conclusion of him being a bust. On average it normally takes two or three seasons for a player to learn his position and adjust to the NFL.

With that said we can always use a player like Chubb. Depth is something that we are in dire need of and Hooker could fill that need if need be. If Chubb is drafted let the two compete for the position.

 

CC....

 

I was trying to be sarcastic with my friend Doug Dew who has hated the Hooker pick since we made it.

 

He rarely lets an opportunity go by without criticizing our taking Hooker.    I thought the idea of drafting Chubb and making him play safety was the obvious joke.

 

No biggie...   just want to clarify...

 

 

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, Indy Fan said:

One is a safety and one is a 4-3 End or 3-4 OLB not sure how they would compete.

I was speaking of depth. I meant they could compete for their positions.  I just didn't word what I meant clear enough.

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

CC....

 

I was trying to be sarcastic with my friend Doug Dew who has hated the Hooker pick since we made it.

 

He rarely lets an opportunity go by without criticizing our taking Hooker.    I thought the idea of drafting Chubb and making him play safety was the obvious joke.

 

No biggie...   just want to clarify...

 

 

No problem, I just didn't pick up on the sarcasm. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[jskinnz]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

Evidently I didn't because there was no clue.

 

Well the first clue, and it is a big one, was the suggestion that they move a highly rated college DE who happens to go about 275 to safety.

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

Well the first clue, and it is a big one, was the suggestion that they move a highly rated college DE who happens to go about 275 to safety.

Your point? I already talked this over with NCF and explained what I thought. He corrected me but I guess you didn't catch that.

Is this really worth making an issue out of it to you?

[Indy Fan]

I really hope some teams love these QBs and want to move up. Dropping back and acquiring some draft capitol plus one of Nelson or Williams would be ideal.

[Valpo2004]

On 12/14/2017 at 4:02 PM, Defjamz26 said:

Yeah that seems to be the hot pick for us right now, much like how Dalvin Cook was around this time last year. I also saw an article which may have also been from ESPN, where they were saying that the Colts winning would be a bad thing because they could play themselves out of being able to get Chubb. I try and stay open minded so maybe I'll have to re-evaluate Chubb

 

To be fair if you assume the Colts stay at #3 then Chubb is the most realistic possibility.  

 

But trading down to a team who's in love with Chubb, Barkely or a QB is the best case scenario for Indy.  

 

[Dark Superman]

 Colts are selecting Barkley at 3.

 I'm just gonna leave this here.

 

 

[Defjamz26]

2 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

To be fair if you assume the Colts stay at #3 then Chubb is the most realistic possibility.  

 

But trading down to a team who's in love with Chubb, Barkely or a QB is the best case scenario for Indy.  

 

Agreed because I really think Nelson is a plug and play all-pro center. He brings a level of toughness and nasty that we need.

[Colts_Fan12]

1 hour ago, Defjamz26 said:

Agreed because I really think Nelson is a plug and play all-pro center. He brings a level of toughness and nasty that we need.

Guard* lol 

[FalseStart]

9 hours ago, Dark Superman said:

 Colts are selecting Barkley at 3.

 I'm just gonna leave this here.

 

 

 

 

[Hoose]

Nope. Chubb. You can get a great RB later. There will be no great pass rushers after the first round. Unless you get blindly lucky. Chubb all day. 

[Valpo2004]

On 12/18/2017 at 12:35 PM, Defjamz26 said:

Agreed because I really think Nelson is a plug and play all-pro center. He brings a level of toughness and nasty that we need.

 

Based on the draft value chart I was looking at.  If we traded down to say #9 we could get a 2nd rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year as compensation.

 

I think at #9 we might still be in the range to get Nelson.  

 

But yes we clearly need OL help.

[Defjamz26]

On 12/18/2017 at 7:52 PM, Hoose said:

Nope. Chubb. You can get a great RB later. There will be no great pass rushers after the first round. Unless you get blindly lucky. Chubb all day. 

Barkley is definitely in play with us picking number 3 now. Like Nelson, he’s a blue chip talent. Plus we could get a good guard in the 2nd round like Hernandez. Plus Harold Landry might fall to the 2nd.