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Ok this is just another scenario, god forbid. If we knew Andrew exhausted  his options, and would never be the same what would we then do in this 2018 draft? If we had a plan B hopefully that we would never have to use. What are you guys idea's about the future? Obviously this is hypothetical but being proactive is never a bad thing. Seriously what would the fans like to see. 

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Depends on "never be the same" as far as, would he be 80% of a healthy Andrew Luck as far as his skill set?  60%?

 

If he can play at 80% of his previous level, then that's better than a lot of other QBs in the league and we draft and sign FA help on the offensive line to protect him.

 

If he's less than 80% (and we wouldn't know until he actually plays), then I would opt for finding a new QB.

 

I think bolstering the OL needs to be done now, and after he plays a full season, then evaluate the need for a Plan B.

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Stephen Holder was on Grady and Big Joe this morning and said he had gotten an update On Luck over the weekend and said the following:  

 

Hes in Europe getting treatment which is going to be a slow process because it’s more like rehab.  He said the early reports that the Colts had gotten were postivie but fans shouldn’t take it as good or bad news because it’s early in the process and this is what was expected when he went over there.

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42 minutes ago, Dirty Mudflaps said:

16.2 million people watched the last Sunday Night Football broadcast, and the NFL still kills everything else on TV.  "Popularity crash" is therefore a relative thing...  as compared to what it used to be?  Maybe.  But in relation to everything else people are watching, and supporting, nah, it's still king. 

 

What Andrew Luck earns has zero to do with this.  There is no scale which mandates less privacy the more one makes.  The simplest explanation is almost always the right one, and in this instance that means he's working on pain solutions, rehabbing, and on IR so not remotely relevant today to the Colts.  That changes drastically when the new NFL year starts, as the Colts will need to know who their starting QB is sooner rather than later.  If there is nothing new to say, there is no need to have a weekly presser to tell us all nothing has changed. 

Any business needs to grow.  The NFL is shrinking.  That is disastrous, for any business.

 

Sure, Luck does not have any obligation to say anything.  I just think it's smart to reassure "fans".  Luck should be smart enough to realize that.  So maybe it's bad?

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During the pre season I don't think it was a scam to fool the fans. They really thought Luck might be ready by the first few games. They were as surprised as us as the extent of Andrews problems. It's not so out of the realm that He might not ever heal properly, as to take the abuse of the NFL anymore.

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22 minutes ago, Roger said:

Any business needs to grow.  The NFL is shrinking.  That is disastrous, for any business.

 

Sure, Luck does not have any obligation to say anything.  I just think it's smart to reassure "fans".  Luck should be smart enough to realize that.  So maybe it's bad?

Revenue for teams isn't shrinking. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/193457/total-league-revenue-of-the-nfl-since-2005/

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/03/06/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/NFL-revenue.aspx

 

TV viewership and attendance numbers are obvious areas of concern.  But this notion that the NFL, and individual teams are losing anything due to those things is absurd.  Now if the discussion is what will the NFL do to in the future to combat the concussion/health issues, the next TV contract and how it is structured, expansion of schedule and league to new markets, I understand there are areas of concern.  But to suggest that today the NFL is in trouble is simply not true.  If it were a company, it would rank around Johnson & Johnson and Microsoft, and sits at #11 on Fortune's list of most important private companies.

 

http://fortune.com/most-important-private-companies/nfl-11/

 

They're gaining a billion dollars a year plus in revenue, including this one, a "down" year.  Think about that for a minute. 

 

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The Colts have relied on QB play to get in the playoffs for 20 years. It's time to build a team that can get in by running the ball and playing defense. I want Luck to be our guy and be 100% healthy but I don't want him to be the only reason we are able to get in the post season. Focus needs to move on to a solid front 7 on D and an Oline that can consistently move the chains. 

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

God I hope so because this topic is never ending.

It was stated by Ballard himself. Again everyone this injury isn’t career ending. Luck has pain in his muscles. It’s expected from having shoulder surgery. The only thing we need to worry about is after we do fix the line and protect him. Will he still make those same mistakes of holding onto the ball too long. Also not using his checkdowns. That’s where our concerns need to be. 

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3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

First 3 years were actually Very Good, if not Great because we overachieved. So the Luck era hasn't been a total failure. It took Irsay/Polian/Manning 9 seasons before they won a SB. Perspective.

 

2 minutes ago, a06cc said:

It was stated by Ballard himself. Again everyone this injury isn’t career ending. Luck has pain in his muscles. It’s expected from having shoulder surgery. The only thing we need to worry about is after we do fix the line and protect him. Will he still make those same mistakes of holding onto the ball too long. Also not using his checkdowns. That’s where our concerns need to be. 

 

2 minutes ago, a06cc said:

It was stated by Ballard himself. Again everyone this injury isn’t career ending. Luck has pain in his muscles. It’s expected from having shoulder surgery. The only thing we need to worry about is after we do fix the line and protect him. Will he still make those same mistakes of holding onto the ball too long. Also not using his checkdowns. That’s where our concerns need to be. 

so 

Ballad is a doctor now the same info he had in pre season? let's face it we nor they know for sure 

 

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Regardless of him coming back, i would like to see an improved D and specifically focused on pass rush in the early rounds.  

 

I don't understand why we haven't heard an update on him lately.  Nothing from the team or the local writers.  The last thing i heard was someones post from a Francesca radio show about his bicep needing repair and now i can't help but think he got another surgery and that's why he's not with the team.  

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39 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

The Colts have relied on QB play to get in the playoffs for 20 years. It's time to build a team that can get in by running the ball and playing defense. I want Luck to be our guy and be 100% healthy but I don't want him to be the only reason we are able to get in the post season. Focus needs to move on to a solid front 7 on D and an Oline that can consistently move the chains. 

Amen!

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1 hour ago, csmopar said:

Hey look... this topic..... AGAIN.  not to be mean, but this has been discussed.......countless times

 

 

http://forums.colts.com/search/

Lol i see this reply in almost every single thread created nowadays. a lot of us dont frequent the forum on a regular basis so forgive us if we dont catch every single thread, relax and let people post what they want. I literally just started a thread on Pagano getting fired and have had multiple people take shots at me for discussing something thats apparently already been discussed, forum regulars need to relax lol

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6 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

Lol i see this reply in almost every single thread created nowadays. a lot of us dont frequent the forum on a regular basis so forgive us if we dont catch every single thread, relax and let people post what they want. I literally just started a thread on Pagano getting fired and have had multiple people take shots at me for discussing something thats apparently already been discussed, forum regulars need to relax lol

We could..... or newbies could simply use the search function, or in the case of the "fire Pagano" posts, just scroll down the page, you'll find a bunch easy enough, and thats just on page 1.

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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

We could..... or newbies could simply use the search function, or in the case of the "fire Pagano" posts, just scroll down the page, you'll find a bunch easy enough, and thats just on page 1.

Its an open forum for anybody to post what they want, and anybody should be able to do that without getting ridiculed for doing so, enough sayd.

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1 hour ago, Dirty Mudflaps said:

Revenue for teams isn't shrinking. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/193457/total-league-revenue-of-the-nfl-since-2005/

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/03/06/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/NFL-revenue.aspx

 

TV viewership and attendance numbers are obvious areas of concern.  But this notion that the NFL, and individual teams are losing anything due to those things is absurd.  Now if the discussion is what will the NFL do to in the future to combat the concussion/health issues, the next TV contract and how it is structured, expansion of schedule and league to new markets, I understand there are areas of concern.  But to suggest that today the NFL is in trouble is simply not true.  If it were a company, it would rank around Johnson & Johnson and Microsoft, and sits at #11 on Fortune's list of most important private companies.

 

http://fortune.com/most-important-private-companies/nfl-11/

 

They're gaining a billion dollars a year plus in revenue, including this one, a "down" year.  Think about that for a minute. 

 

You are throwing up a batch of irrelevant data. The trend of ever growing viewership has been broken. Facts are, NFL is hearing screams from unhappy advertisers.  The next TV deal would be for less money.  Empty seats are not good. Even if tickets are sold, NFL loses gear sales, beer, food. Even losing 10% of viewers would be a disaster.  Thanksgiving games were down 10% (1st game) and 25% (2nd game) from 2016.  THAT is a huge problem.  As I said, the NFL must grow in popularity, else revenue WILL shrink.  When revenue shrinks, players will not be paid as much.

 

Virtually ALL revenue is dependent on TV viewership and game attendance.  If you think that the business isn't shrinking, then take an intro business course.

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17 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

Lol i see this reply in almost every single thread created nowadays. a lot of us dont frequent the forum on a regular basis so forgive us if we dont catch every single thread, relax and let people post what they want. I literally just started a thread on Pagano getting fired and have had multiple people take shots at me for discussing something thats apparently already been discussed, forum regulars need to relax lol

 

He doesn't speak for all of us. You can discuss what you want, I have no problem with that. :) 

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8 hours ago, WERC82 said:

What reason do they have to divulge anything on his status? 

$140,000,000 contract and why not share about the the most important player in this nonsense franchise owned by a dork owner that said he would be ready to go in September 2017.

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15 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

Its an open forum for anybody to post what they want, and anybody should be able to do that without getting ridiculed for doing so, enough sayd.

*said lmao

 

Relax my friend, im simply giving you a hard time. I'm far from the only one that does it, and im not sure where you're getting that i said it on your Coach firing thread, I didn't actually.

 

 

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