Mathis arrested

[ricker182]

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Something else happened, if he was below the limit (was he screwing with his phone while driving?- maybe he gave the cops a hard time?). People don't like to acknowledge this, but there's a limit, because it's not in fact against the law to have a few beers and drive in the same day. In fact, most people have done it, especially if you've been to a football game or a bar.

 

 

I'll wait until I hear Mathis' story, but I'm more likely to believe him over the CPD

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

Something else happened, if he was below the limit (was he screwing with his phone while driving?- maybe he gave the cops a hard time?). People don't like to acknowledge this, but there's a limit, because it's not in fact against the law to have a few beers and drive in the same day. In fact, most people have done it, especially if you've been to a football game or a bar.

 

 

You are speaking to deaf ears since the most I drank was on my 21 Birthday

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The legal limit is .08 so that isn't drunk driving by law. Sounds like he had 2 or 3 beers maybe with a late dinner with it being that low.

I edited this so just re quoting it. Not sure why he was arrested.

[The Fish]

7 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:

Screwing with your phone doesn't merit an arrest.

I don't know the exact order of these things, but I'm going to guess that if you've got a few beers in you (but not over the limit) and you're messing with your phone, swerving, get pulled over, the cops discretion comes in to play.

 

[The Fish]

4 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

You are speaking to deaf ears since the most I drank was on my 21 Birthday

Good work. Being a booze bag is a waste of time.

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:

Screwing with your phone doesn't merit an arrest.

Unless they suspect you are texting and driving, which is now illegal...

 

Source: 

https://www.in.gov/dol/2873.htm

[chrisfarley]

3 hours ago, Gramz said:

I'm curious as to why he is being held without bond...??     I'm assuming that is standard procedure for anyone arrested for OWI  or DUI...   simply meaning they can't bond out until seeing the Judge the next day.?

he is just awaiting his bond amount, that's all.  there would be no way he wouldn't get a bond for that offense.  It just takes time depending on how crowded it is.

[Virtuoso80]

Just now, RollerColt said:

Unless they suspect you are texting and driving, which is now illegal...

 

Source: 

https://www.in.gov/dol/2873.htm

Yeah they fine you up to $500 (citation) but not arrest.

[RollerColt]

Just now, Virtuoso80 said:

Yeah they fine you up to $500 (citation) but not arrest.

Good point. This is very strange...

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

Good work. Being a booze bag is a waste of time.

Being a Baptist and being on medicine since HS has helped a lot

[chrisfarley]

2 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

Would be hypocritical if they fire him over this.   

he will not be fired over this.  that's for sure.

[PrincetonTiger]

Unless there was more to the arrest nothing will come of the arrest because of the low BAL

[IinD]

It's dumb simply because he can't use a regular persons excuse of I was low on money or couldn't get a ride.

 

Dumb bro.

[Cynjin]

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Something else happened, if he was below the limit (was he screwing with his phone while driving?- maybe he gave the cops a hard time?). People don't like to acknowledge this, but there's a limit, because it's not in fact against the law to have a few beers and drive in the same day. In fact, most people have done it, especially if you've been to a football game or a bar.

 

 

 

Apparently, he was driving the wrong way on a one way street.  I used to live on a one way street, people did that all the time.  I believe it was due to gps not showing that it was a one  way street and telling people to turn when they really shouldn't have.

[RollerColt]

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/10/24/colts-robert-mathis-charged-drunken-driving/793546001/

 

So, he was driving the wrong direction on a one-way lane, and the BAC was 0.052. He was arrested for preliminary charges of intoxicated driving. 

 

 

[Virtuoso80]

Just now, IinD said:

It's dumb simply because he can't use a regular persons excuse of I was low on money or couldn't get a ride.

 

Dumb bro.

Why would he need a ride?   He was well below the legal limit.

[chrisfarley]

14 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:

If that was true, then why was he arrested?

officer's discretion.  he probably failed the field sobriety test.

[IinD]

Just now, Virtuoso80 said:

Why would he need a ride?   He was well below the legal limit.

Obviously he wasn't. If that's what he got arrested for.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, chrisfarley said:

officer's discretion.  he probably failed the field sobriety test.

I would struggle with several of them 

[chrisfarley]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

I would struggle with several of them 

yes, no doubt, that's why its recommended to decline so as to not incriminate yourself.

[Virtuoso80]

Just now, IinD said:

Obviously he wasn't. If that's what he got arrested for.

.052 is below the limit.  the legal limit is .08

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, chrisfarley said:

officer's discretion.  he probably failed the field sobriety test.

That could be, maybe he only had 2 beers but was on pain killers so that hampered his ability to function properly. I don't know that for a fact but just a guess. When Tiger Woods got pulled over, he hadn't even had 1 drink but was on pain killers and looked a mess.

[The Fish]

8 minutes ago, Cynjin said:

 

Apparently, he was driving the wrong way on a one way street.  I used to live on a one way street, people did that all the time.  I believe it was due to gps not showing that it was a one  way street and telling people to turn when they really shouldn't have.

I don't love the Luck puns, these days, but if this season was a movie it'd be called" Bad Luck- 2017, The Colts story. Driving the wrong way on a one way street..

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, chrisfarley said:

yes, no doubt, that's why its recommended to decline so as to not incriminate yourself.

I do not drink but have serious balance issues

[IinD]

2 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:

.052 is below the limit.  the legal limit is .08

I'm not here to argue law bro.

 

Headline days drunk, arrested. That's all I'm commenting on. 

[Virtuoso80]

Just now, IinD said:

I'm not here to argue law bro.

 

Headline days drunk, arrested. That's all I'm commenting on. 

Not trying to argue but just strange they arrested him for OWI which is driving drunk, but he was below the limit.  Just something weird about it.

[IinD]

Just now, Virtuoso80 said:

Not trying to argue but just strange they arrested him for OWI which is driving drunk, but he was below the limit.  Just something weird about it.

Could be bad reporting. We know how accurate they are nowadays.

 

For all we know the #'s could be way off.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Virtuoso80 said:

Not trying to argue but just strange they arrested him for OWI which is driving drunk, but he was below the limit.  Just something weird about it.

I agree the law is the law. If the cops want to arrest someone because they are .081 then that is the law. If someone is .079 then they cant have it both ways. Mathis was only .052, that is maybe 2 beers. That is why I think there is more to it.

[21isSuperman]

22 minutes ago, ricker182 said:

He wasn't even drunk.  

His BAC was .052. 

Then why was he arrested?

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, 21isSuperman said:

Then why was he arrested?

That is the million dollar question.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, 21isSuperman said:

Then why was he arrested?

There was more to it

[RollerColt]

2 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

Then why was he arrested?

Confrontational upon being pulled over? Perhaps resisted direct orders from law enforcement? Maybe the law enforcement themselves went overboard? 

[Virtuoso80]

I think "endangering a person" that is probably why.  

[Bravo]

58 minutes ago, WoolMagnet said:

I think in many states there is a 24 hour manditory jail time.

 

 

Not in Indiana.

Read my last post.

[Virtuoso80]

He was released without posting a bond.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/10/24/colts-robert-mathis-charged-drunken-driving/793546001/

[DougDew]

Before people start drifting into the idea that the Carmel PD was picking on a black man because he's black, this is Robert Mathis.  I'm sure enough cops involved knew who he was when they pulled his ID, assuming he had it with him.  I doubt they conjured up some phony charge on Robert Mathis just to arrest him because he's black.

 

Wait for the facts. 

 

And sometimes cops want the perp to sober up a bit.  If his perception is being compromised at a 0.52 level, wrong way on a one way, then maybe the cops take him in and let him sit a while.  It keeps him from messing things up further....his own life for one thing.

[Bravo]

You can still be under the league limit and be arrested for OWI. Not a lot of people know that.

 

Its depends if the Officer had probable cause to believe he was too intoxitcated to drive.

 

Medications can make the alcohol effects stronger or other circumstances like that.

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:

I think "endangering a person" that is probably why.  

That probably means he had another person in the car with him and that is what got him arrested.

[Bravo]

6 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:

He was released without posting a bond.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/10/24/colts-robert-mathis-charged-drunken-driving/793546001/

 

He was released on the pre-trial program that Hamilton County has.

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, bravo4460 said:

You can still be under the league limit and be arrested for OWI. Not a lot of people know that.

 

Its depends if the Officer had probable cause to believe he was too intoxitcated to drive.

 

Medications can make the alcohol effects stronger or other circumstances like that.

Yeah I posted this earlier. Mathis may have took a pain pill + had a couple of beers so maybe was belligerent??