TY toss the line under the bus

[GoColts8818]

 

 

welp now the locker room is starting to come apart...

[Aluckiswolverine]

Pagano has lost this team, it’s time to lose him

 

[RockThatBlue]

He is obviously right, but you can't say that kind of thing publicly.

[life long]

1 minute ago, Aluckiswolverine said:

Pagano has lost this team, it’s time to lose him

 

This is painfully obvious now. If something does not happen this week, we can expect every loss to look like this or worse.

[ricker182]

What a joke.  

We are at rock bottom. 

[LockeDown]

Did he really say that? 

 

[GoColts8818]

Just now, LockeDown said:

Did he really say that? 

 

That’s what the reporter quoted I doubt he’s making it up

[ricker182]

I remember when Jeff George threw the line under the bus and they practically refused to block for him after that.  

[Superman]

Can't say that about your teammates.

 

But they did give up half a seasons' worth of sacks in one game...

[MTC]

He's not wrong, but Brissett needs to throw the ball out quicker. 

[colts89]

He's not wrong

[CanuckColtsFan]

3 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

He is obviously right, but you can't say that kind of thing publicly.

Yep

[ReMeDy]

I think the season is now officially over. You can say "what-if's" all you want, but back-to-back loses against divisional opponents -- neither being the true test, which is Houston -- and our star player calling others out with Luck no where in sight. It's done. We could have maybe made a case Luck could be healthy by the playoffs, but the playoffs are a distant memory now.

 

Oh, and if you want insult to injury... Hooker.

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

Can't say that about your teammates.

 

But they did give up half a seasons' worth of sacks in one game...

I am not going to defend the line but a lot of those sacks cane because Brissett was holding the ball because no one was open.

 

TY needs to careful or fingers are going to be pointed at him and the receivers too.

[cgi4life]

Yeaaaah... you can't put your family dirty on the streets true or not...smh

[PrincetonTiger]

Not something smart to say

[1959Colts]

Hilton stunk today. Should just shut up.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

I am not going to defend the line but a lot of those sacks cane because Brissett was holding the ball because no one was open.

 

TY needs to careful or fingers are going to be pointed at him and the receivers too.

Nicely put

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, MTC said:

He's not wrong, but Brissett needs to throw the ball out quicker. 

Which he’s not doing because guys aren’t open.  That’s why it’s a team game TY.  His hands aren’t clean in this.

[Malakai432]

He's right, the OL is putrid.  That being said Chud and co doesn't make it any easier on them.  Brissett is usually taking the snap then just running backwards waiting for his receivers to get open.

[PrincetonTiger]

This kind of statement got Miguel Monterey traded from the Cubs

[ricker182]

He pretty much said they just have to be better up front.  

  

He's not wrong.  

  

He also needs to get open.  

A few of those sacks were coverage sacks. 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Which he’s not doing because guys aren’t open.  That’s why it’s a team game TY.  His hands aren’t clean in this.

So true

[a06cc]

Yeah this whole thing needs blown up in the offseason.

[Superman]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

I am not going to defend the line but a lot of those sacks cane because Brissett was holding the ball because no one was open.

 

TY needs to careful or fingers are going to be pointed at him and the receivers too.

 

The receivers are reliant on the QB throwing them the ball, and the QB is reliant on the OL blocking. Hilton maybe hasn't played great, but he hasn't been the problem, IMO.

 

And yeah, the 10 sacks aren't all on the line, but we all know the line is bad, has been bad, likely will continue to be bad. And the bigger issue, IMO, is the play calling, but Hilton didn't call out the coach, so...

[James]

The Colts offensive linemen are being rightfully thrown under the bus. They are abysmal and should be criticized heavily for it. Shouldn't happen publicly though. Keep this in house, TY.

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, ricker182 said:

He pretty much said they just have to be better up front.  

  

He's not wrong.  

  

He also needs to get open.  

A few of those sacks were coverage sacks. 

No matter how right or wrong he is that is not something to say

[WoolMagnet]

Hilton himself needs to step up or shut up.

"the ghost" is a pefect nickname because he disappears against quality DBs.  (Now that he got paid)

[Tunggreat]

Good for TY. Glad that someone's speaking the truth. 

[ricker182]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

No matter how right or wrong he is that is not something to say

I agree, but TY is just too honest to a fault.  

  

He needs to create some separation too.  

  

This team may all around sucks right now.  

  

 

[TheMarine]

Hilton is clearly wrong to call them out publicly.

No doubt that would have happened behind closed doors on film day.

 

Hilton also isn't wrong in his assessment. #MuddSaidLineWasFixed

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

The receivers are reliant on the QB throwing them the ball, and the QB is reliant on the OL blocking. Hilton maybe hasn't played great, but he hasn't been the problem, IMO.

 

And yeah, the 10 sacks aren't all on the line, but we all know the line is bad, has been bad, likely will continue to be bad. And the bigger issue, IMO, is the play calling, but Hilton didn't call out the coach, so...

The WR Corp must catch the ball or even goes wrong

[GoColts8818]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

The receivers are reliant on the QB throwing them the ball, and the QB is reliant on the OL blocking. Hilton maybe hasn't played great, but he hasn't been the problem, IMO.

 

And yeah, the 10 sacks aren't all on the line, but we all know the line is bad, has been bad, likely will continue to be bad. And the bigger issue, IMO, is the play calling, but Hilton didn't call out the coach, so...

Three catches in two games and outside of the two wins next to nothing I disagree TY hasn’t been a problem.

 

They show some of these sacks or scrambles by Brissett on replay and you see no one is open.  You can have the best line in football with Peyton Manning if no ones open it doesn’t matter.

 

honestly I think all three parts of the passing game, line, QB, and, receivers are struggling.

 

for the record I also agree the play calling isn’t helping anyone.

[Superman]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

The WR Corp must catch the ball or even goes wrong

 

Hilton caught everything that was catchable in his direction. He's not the problem, at all. Anyone pointing fingers at him is being ridiculous.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, ricker182 said:

I agree, but TY is just too honest to a fault.  

  

He needs to create some separation too.  

  

This team may all around sucks right now.  

  

 

This is why I cringe at times during PG Pressers

 

 

[RockThatBlue]

5 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Which he’s not doing because guys aren’t open.  That’s why it’s a team game TY.  His hands aren’t clean in this.

Chud doesn't know what a short passing game is. O line can't block worth a crap and hes still calling too many long developing plays.

[JColts72]

Line is swiss cheese as same issue since manning left.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

Hilton caught everything that was catchable in his direction. He's not the problem, at all. Anyone pointing fingers at him is being ridiculous.

I said he WR and TE Corp not just Hilton 

 

 

 

[Mr.Debonair]

Keep unraveling! Maybe Irsay will get the branches out his * and Fire Pagano

[Superman]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

Three catches in two games and outside of the two wins next to nothing I disagree TY hasn’t been a problem.

 

They show some of these sacks or scrambles by Brissett on replay and you see no one is open.  You can have the best line in football with Peyton Manning if no ones open it doesn’t matter.

 

honestly I think all three parts of the passing game, line, QB, and, receivers are struggling.

 

Surface level, it's easy to say 'no one is open, the receivers aren't playing well.' But we all know our passing concepts are terrible. 

 

When the QB gets sacked 10 times and hit another 15 times, it's just silly to blame the receivers. Any of them. Football starts up front. The receivers can't catch the ball if the QB can't throw it, and the QB can't throw it if he doesn't have time. It's Football 101.

 

This isn't the game to act like Hilton isn't playing well.