Question for you....
What's your criteria here? Future Hall of Famer? All Pro? Pro Bowls?
I don't want to start listing names and you have say that's not the level of player you were thinking of. Just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing. Apples to apples.
But remember, you were the one who claimed Wagner should easily have 5 more years of ELITE level play.
When you tell me what level we're talking about, I'll be happy to give you a list.
Andrew Luck is roughly half-way through his career. This will be his 8th year.
Years '15, '16 and '17 were not his fault. When he was playing he was hurt, and surrounded by bad talent. And 17 he didn't play at all.
So, we really only have 4 reasonably healthy years to judge him. He's taken each team to the playoffs. And in years '12, '13 and '14, those weren't very talented teams.
We're going to get a much better look at Andrew. He's surrounded by better talent. He's in a more quarterback friendly system. I think his next 7-8 years will be fun for all of us.
As a Cubs fan I complain from time to time. Looking at the standings and seeing how other teams struggle a little too, that is just the nature of 162 games in reality. There is a lot of parity in the league. The Cubs have the 3rd best record in the NL through 96 games heading into July 18th so I shouldn't really complain. They lead the NL Central with a 52-44 record over the 2nd place 50-47 Brewers by 2.5 games. The Cubs have the same record as the World Champion Red Sox who are also 52-44. Things could be worse. The key is playing well enough all season to get into the playoffs, so far the Cubs are doing just that. The Dodgers look powerful and will win over 100 games but come playoff time everyone is 0-0. Just get in should be the teams motto.