RockThatBlue Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 For fraud and corruption http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/352440-four-ncaa-coaches-facing-federal-fraud-corruption-charges?amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 One of them was former Pacer Chuck Person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: One of them was former Pacer Chuck Person No Louisville coach was indicted but they apparently paid to get a player to commit. Pitino is probably finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadine Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 some of these coaches apparently involved in pay for play as gatekeepers to financial advisors, managers, sportswear reps for player And making the player think that it was in their best interest when in reality, they'd been bribed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: No Louisville coach was indicted but they apparently paid to get a player to commit. Pitino is probably finished. Shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadine Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Shocked Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 Michael Eaves @michaeleaves Based on texts I've received this FBI investigation into college basketball corruption could be HUGE. Much bigger than assistants implicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, RockThatBlue said: Michael Eaves @michaeleaves Based on texts I've received this FBI investigation into college basketball corruption could be HUGE. Much bigger than assistants implicated Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 11:04 AM, Nadine said: some of these coaches apparently involved in pay for play as gatekeepers to financial advisors, managers, sportswear reps for player And making the player think that it was in their best interest when in reality, they'd been bribed. That is what I found most disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Pitino is history so is Chuck IMO, Chuck is in big trouble. Pitino will just lose his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 11:20 AM, RockThatBlue said: Michael Eaves @michaeleaves Based on texts I've received this FBI investigation into college basketball corruption could be HUGE. Much bigger than assistants implicated Are you concerned about possible allegations against UK basketball? Coach Cal left both UMass and Memphis in a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, NFLfan said: Are you concerned about possible allegations against UK basketball? Coach Cal left both UMass and Memphis in a mess. A lot of Coaches = History, end of story! Not sure about Cal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, NFLfan said: Are you concerned about possible allegations against UK basketball? Coach Cal left both UMass and Memphis in a mess. Different reason and U.K. Is a Nike school The UMass deal was payments made to Marcus Camby and his friends, Memphis issues were over bad test scores Kentucky also have very tough regulations on things like this because of the Eddie Sutton situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: A lot of Coaches = History, end of story! Not sure about Cal? I have a feeling Kentucky was not involved(Nike School) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said: I have a feeling Kentucky was not involved(Nike School) Yeah Cal will looks ok from my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: Yeah Cal will looks ok from my view Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said: Agreed Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, NFLfan said: Are you concerned about possible allegations against UK basketball? Coach Cal left both UMass and Memphis in a mess. I don't think Kentucky is involved. Cal actually backed off a lot of the players that are known about so far. And as PT said Kentucky is mostly a nike school, Adidas looks to be the main troublemaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The player involved at UL went LaLumiere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, RockThatBlue said: I don't think Kentucky is involved. Cal actually backed off a lot of the players that are known about so far. And as PT said Kentucky is mostly a nike school, Adidas looks to be the main troublemaker. To my knowledge they are not involved. Man Chuck Person is, I loved him as a Pacer. I couldn't imagine arresting someone like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: To my knowledge they are not involved. Man Chuck Person is, I loved him as a Pacer. I couldn't imagine arresting someone like him Means Bruce Pearl could be in trouble by association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: Means Bruce Pearl could be in trouble by association Same with Sean Miller at Zona. Crazy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, RockThatBlue said: Same with Sean Miller at Zona. Crazy stuff. Yep, it's nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Yep, it's nuts CBB this year could be bizarre. May have a few blue blood programs on postseason bans with new coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: Same with Sean Miller at Zona. Crazy stuff. Could be a little different in Auburn since Pearl has had some issues at Iowa as an Assistant and Tennessee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, RockThatBlue said: CBB this year could be bizarre. May have a few blue blood programs on postseason bans with new coaches. UNC and Roy should have already been in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The player involved at UL went to LaLumiere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said: UNC and Roy should have already been in trouble NCAA is moving at a snails pace on them. They could have 2 or 3 titles vacated from 20 years of blatant cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 8:33 PM, RockThatBlue said: NCAA is moving at a snails pace on them. They could have 2 or 3 titles vacated from 20 years of blatant cheating. I'm not defending NC but the fact that you have bogus classes at a University isn't exactly cheating...especially since many kids not even athletes benefited...my time in college there were obvious bogus classes too...and its not like they have to be called basket weaving 101...don't get me wrong...kids should be there to learn but these kids are there to be professional basketball players...not engineers. They should be taking classes like personal finance, social media 101, how to spot a scammer and rid yourself of hanger-ons, and who is your fall guy (every athlete needs one). They don't need to be taking American history or Psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 8:23 PM, PrincetonTiger said: Means Bruce Pearl could be in trouble by association Met him many times....super super nice guy....but no doubt in my mind would cut every corner, find every grey area, and cross any line to win and succeed. His time at my school USI he would bring in guys thrown off Division 1 teams like Michigan and others....players worked summer jobs at Kenny Kent "washing" cars and driving brand new rides everywhere....mysteriously always having gift cards to purchase stuff all the time etc...and obviously he has had issues at Tennessee and elsewhere. Again..super nice guy...but its clear people will take the quick and easy way to win if they get offered in this crazy high stakes world of NCAA sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 8:19 PM, RockThatBlue said: I don't think Kentucky is involved. Cal actually backed off a lot of the players that are known about so far. And as PT said Kentucky is mostly a nike school, Adidas looks to be the main troublemaker. https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/9/27/16375138/nike-eybl-fbi-college-basketball-scandal Its not just Addidas being looked into...and while I doubt UK is involved considering they don't need to pay to recruit these kids it doesn't mean assistants and staff aren't steering them towards agents etc. Don't get me wrong...any team could get caught up in this....even IU is an addidas school and heck Archie's brother's school Arizona where Archie was an assistant 6 years ago is highlighted in the case...but so far its been mostly Addidas focus. Thing is the guy investigated at Addidas came from Nike a couple years ago....is that when this all started....highly unlikely...did he just bring over his tactics...who knows but this isn't going away anytime soon. I think the red flags are when players that have been listing teams one way all along suddenly land at other schools (Bowens....maybe Bamba to Texas??). Stuff like that should raise a flag...but really its no surprise these AAU leagues with coaches making in the six figures all run by shoe companies who have college team deals in place for millions would want to steer their star players to star universities to sell their shoes...etc...and its no big surprise assistant coaches are steering guys to agents etc for kickbacks....probably been going on for a while and not surprising to me. I imagine just about any team with high ranking recruits could be affected by this fbi probe. My honest opinion...let the kids go pro...not that it will stop all of this but it certainly would stop this one year b.s. that's going on when a kid has no intentions of being a student and is just being held back from making millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, dgambill said: Met him many times....super super nice guy....but no doubt in my mind would cut every corner, find every grey area, and cross any line to win and succeed. His time at my school USI he would bring in guys thrown off Division 1 teams like Michigan and others....players worked summer jobs at Kenny Kent "washing" cars and driving brand new rides everywhere....mysteriously always having gift cards to purchase stuff all the time etc...and obviously he has had issues at Tennessee and elsewhere. Again..super nice guy...but its clear people will take the quick and easy way to win if they get offered in this crazy high stakes world of NCAA sports. I am a USI alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: I am a USI alum I had a few friends on the basketball team when I went to school back in 97-01. I would often run in circles with guys on the team and played ball at the PAC almost every day with them....but it was easy to tell even at a division 2 school that something fishy was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just now, dgambill said: I had a few friends on the basketball team when I went to school back in 97-01. I would often run in circles with guys on the team and played ball at the PAC almost every day with them....but it was easy to tell even at a division 2 school that something fishy was going on. I was there at the same time and knew several athletes of all sports through HS and the Education/SS Department but was never real close to the Basketball program because of my schedule and responsibilities in Princeton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I graduated from IUPUI with my 4 year degree. Even we tried to cheat it wouldn't of matter Hey we did have George Hill though. Hill has been a solid Pro and played for the Pacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: I graduated from IUPUI with my 4 year degree. Even we tried to cheat it wouldn't of matter Hey we did have George Hill though. Hill has been a solid Pro and played for the Pacers. A close friend of mine went to IUPUI on a Basketball(Women's) Scholarship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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