Mike & Mike Comments On The Colts First Game

[King Colt]

Greene: "The Colts are a high school team. "

              "They have the worst roster."   

              "We knew they would be awful."  

              "The issue is not the quarterback but the players around him."       

Golich:  "The Colts are the worst team in the NFL."

              "46 to 9 and it wasn't that close."

Jeff Saturday: "That was as ugly as I have seen. It could get really ugly if they don't find a way to stop somebody."

Louis Riddick: "Their defense has been inept for years. It is a remake of the previous regime. It's all on Luck's shoulders." 

 

I'll add Golich and Riddick did not rule out sitting Luck for the season and I have advocated this as well. As long as the Colts are dazed and confused keep Luck out and go for a high draft pick next year 

[WERC82]

wrong on every count. Coaching is the only problem, not the roster. The Jets are the worst team followed by the 9ers then prolly cincy

[JimJaime]

Lol this always makes me think of the Colts had BB instead of NE they would be the reigning dynasty and Luck would be a lot healthier since the O line would not have been an after thought when building the team. (That or Scar would have made them all 10X better) Colt fans have had 2 legendary QBs and inept coaches/ GMs IMO proves you need both to win.

[Valpo2004]

Quarterback was most certainly one of the issues.

 

Now granted the defense couldn't make stops in the 2nd half.  

[MR. Blueblood]

They got thoroughly dismantled by the Rams.....the L.A. Rams "Coach" Pagano.  The Colts came out completely unprepared in yet another game, and start another season with a loss....a very ugly one at that.

 

It'll be interesting to see the mood in LOS this Sunday.  I'm guessing the boo birds will be out early, especially if Tolzien is under center.

 

It's going to be a long long season.  Was going to be that way the moment Pagano was kept on.  The players know he's a dead man walking, and I sure didn't see much fight from them in L.A. to help his cause.

[richard pallo]

Just now, Valpo2004 said:

Quarterback was most certainly one of the issues.

 

Now granted the defense couldn't make stops in the 2nd half.  

They practically played the whole second half.

[Myles]

4 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

wrong on every count. Coaching is the only problem, not the roster. The Jets are the worst team followed by the 9ers then prolly cincy

No way is Cincy worse than the Colts.   I'd take the Bengals roster in a heartbeat.   Marvin Lewis is as bad a coach as Pagano though.  

I think the Colts defense has potential.   Some decent players who just are not coached well.   A good coach could make them a top 20 defense.

[BProland85]

It's amazing what a quality OL, QB, and HC will do for your team, and defense. Once Ballard fixes this OL, brings in a new HC, and gets Luck completely healthy, this team will surprise everyone. 

[TKnight24]

Saquon Barkley, Marlon Mack, & Andrew Luck are gonna be a great trio in the future. Secure the #1 overall pick, trade back to #5 for Kings Ransom as the other teams scramble for Darnold, Rosen, etc etc. Get numerous picks, take Barkley & build a defense & offensive line with the rest of the picks 

 

Tank Season is here

 

[OHColtfan]

They are right, after the first week, we are the worst team in the NFL. Don't think that will last the whole season, we might rise to the 30th worst team.  I really don't think having Luck and Davis in the lineup would have won us the game, we just would have sucked less. Seems to be just where we are. Even with Luck and Davis- our OL looks poor, there is no pass rush, DB's look invisible and mostly our coaching is just not NFL quality.

 

BTW, Greenberg is a putz, don't give a crap what he says.

[WERC82]

name good players other than AJ on the Bengals and I can match them with a Colts who is as good or better.

[Myles]

3 minutes ago, MR. Blueblood said:

They got thoroughly dismantled by the Rams.....the L.A. Rams "Coach" Pagano.  The Colts came out completely unprepared in yet another game, and start another season with a loss....a very ugly one at that.

 

It'll be interesting to see the mood in LOS this Sunday.  I'm guessing the boo birds will be out early, especially if Tolzien is under center.

 

It's going to be a long long season.  Was going to be that way the moment Pagano was kept on.  The players know he's a dead man walking, and I sure didn't see much fight from them in L.A. to help his cause.

I hope that doesn't happen.   Tolzien shouldn't shoulder much of this.   Everyone knew what to expect from him.   He has shown in all preseason.   Isn't this what we expected?   Had Pagano had the team ready to play.   Had Pagano not made a bone head rush play.   Had Pagano made sure to have low risk passes built into passing plays.   This team didn't have to lose like this.  

[WERC82]

mike and mike are never right and are colts haters

 

[Myles]

2 minutes ago, OHColtfan said:

They are right, after the first week, we are the worst team in the NFL. Don't think that will last the whole season, we might rise to the 30th worst team.  I really don't think having Luck and Davis in the lineup would have won us the game, we just would have sucked less. Seems to be just where we are. Even with Luck and Davis- our OL looks poor, there is no pass rush, DB's look invisible and mostly our coaching is just not NFL quality.

 

BTW, Greenberg is a putz, don't give a crap what he says.

Totally agree there.

[WERC82]

8 minutes ago, MR. Blueblood said:

They got thoroughly dismantled by the Rams.....the L.A. Rams "Coach" Pagano.  The Colts came out completely unprepared in yet another game, and start another season with a loss....a very ugly one at that.

 

It'll be interesting to see the mood in LOS this Sunday.  I'm guessing the boo birds will be out early, especially if Tolzien is under center.

 

It's going to be a long long season.  Was going to be that way the moment Pagano was kept on.  The players know he's a dead man walking, and I sure didn't see much fight from them in L.A. to help his cause.

the crowd in LOS won't be the problem. A team that doesn't believe in the coaching staff is.

[csmopar]

[HarryTheCat]

Why all the negativity? We have a Top-32 defense, and a Top-32 offense! 

[WERC82]

4 minutes ago, OHColtfan said:

They are right, after the first week, we are the worst team in the NFL. Don't think that will last the whole season, we might rise to the 30th worst team.  I really don't think having Luck and Davis in the lineup would have won us the game, we just would have sucked less. Seems to be just where we are. Even with Luck and Davis- our OL looks poor, there is no pass rush, DB's look invisible and mostly our coaching is just not NFL quality.

 

BTW, Greenberg is a putz, don't give a crap what he says.

The coaching fails put the players in an unwinnable situation. When you"re down 3 scores the other team can open up the playbook on offense and defense while your own playbook becomes very limited. The non challenge changed everything.

[bradgt04]

12 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

wrong on every count. Coaching is the only problem, not the roster. The Jets are the worst team followed by the 9ers then prolly cincy

I agree wholeheartedly.  Pagans thinks kissing Ballards * is enough to keep his job.  Drop him and either promote someone or hire someone that is at the very least competent.  He's just a plain old bad coach and I don't think he will recognize his flaw.  I'm sick of him trying to "outsmart" everybody and he's the only one he's outsmarting.  /end rant

[MR. Blueblood]

1 minute ago, Myles said:

I hope that doesn't happen.   Tolzien shouldn't shoulder much of this.   Everyone knew what to expect from him.   He has shown in all preseason.   Isn't this what we expected?   Had Pagano had the team ready to play.   Had Pagano not made a bone head rush play.   Had Pagano made sure to have low risk passes built into passing plays.   This team didn't have to lose like this.  

I totally get it.  

 

It's not fair to Tolzien, he is who he is, and obviously he's not the guy that can keep this ship afloat until AL comes back.  But a lot of fans don't care about that.  They want to see a product on the field that is worthy of their, time, energy, and most importantly their money.  Tolzien will be run out of the building with boos the first mistake that he makes.  I think the fans may be a bit more forgiving to Brissett due to his newness to the team.  I also think Brissett may give the fans a glimmer of hope, because if anybody has any hope with Tolzien playing they need to take off those rose colored glasses.

[Boiler_Colt]

I know it stings, guys. But it's hard to disagree with anything they said.

[bababooey]

16 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Quarterback was most certainly one of the issues.

 

Now granted the defense couldn't make stops in the 2nd half.  

Tough when they are gassed in that heat and the offense can't convert a 3rd down.

[aaron11]

9 minutes ago, OHColtfan said:

They are right, after the first week, we are the worst team in the NFL. Don't think that will last the whole season, we might rise to the 30th worst team.  I really don't think having Luck and Davis in the lineup would have won us the game, we just would have sucked less. Seems to be just where we are. Even with Luck and Davis- our OL looks poor, there is no pass rush, DB's look invisible and mostly our coaching is just not NFL quality.

 

BTW, Greenberg is a putz, don't give a crap what he says.

i mostly agree with what you said, but kelly is our best player on the oline

 

should look a lot better when he comes back 

[MR. Blueblood]

7 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

the crowd in LOS won't be the problem. A team that doesn't believe in the coaching staff is.

While the players in the locker room are the key to all of this, they do also feed off of the energy from the crowd.  Once the negative snowball starts rolling it's really hard to break that momentum.

[Fisticuffs111]

We as Colts fans can disagree all we want but this isn't just Mike and Mike, most people outside of our fanbase think like this.

People already thought we were bad without Luck. That Rams game just made us look terrible.

[deadman]

2 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

i mostly agree with what you said, but kelly is our best player on the oline

 

should look a lot better when he comes back 

I agree. Kelly makes a lot of line calls / protection changes that didn't happen yesterday. He won't make them a top 10 OL but definitely better than what we witnessed vs the Rams.

[WERC82]

east and west coast, where all the media is always thinks indiana teams are the worst.

 

[deadman]

1 minute ago, WERC82 said:

east and west coast, where all the media is always thinks indiana teams are the worst.

 

 

They thought highly of the Titans. If Indiana teams were better that would be reflected in their commentary. 

[richard pallo]

Like there opinion means something.  Over reaction Monday everywhere.

[Myles]

12 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

east and west coast, where all the media is always thinks indiana teams are the worst.

 

Well, the Colts sure gave them some ammunition.  

[WERC82]

14 minutes ago, MR. Blueblood said:

While the players in the locker room are the key to all of this, they do also feed off of the energy from the crowd.  Once the negative snowball starts rolling it's really hard to break that momentum.

Crowd noise hasn't been a factor for Colts home games since the left the Hoosier Dome. Trust me I'm there every week.

[Tracy Denton]

Look on the bright side...We are tied for second place in our division !!

[Myles]

4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Like there opinion means something.  Over reaction Monday everywhere.

What would be the correct reaction to a game lost 46-9 against a Rams team that was predicted to win 5 games?

[MR. Blueblood]

failed to qoute

[MR. Blueblood]

6 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

Crowd noise hasn't been a factor for Colts home games since the left the Hoosier Dome. Trust me I'm there every week.

I am too, and I would argue that statement.  LOS can get rocking and super loud, but it goes hand in hand with the play on the field.  Sub par play and the crowd goes silent (other than the boos).  The play is good and the crowd is alive.  IDK, maybe my section is more into the games than some of the others.  

 

Peyton's first game back was the loudest I've ever heard that place from start to finish, but to say that solely a venue change has taken crowd noise out is a false statement.

[HungarianColtsFan]

51 minutes ago, King Colt said:

Greene: "The Colts are a high school team. "

              "They have the worst roster."   

              "We knew they would be awful."  

              "The issue is not the quarterback but the players around him."       

Golich:  "The Colts are the worst team in the NFL."

              "46 to 9 and it wasn't that close."

Jeff Saturday: "That was as ugly as I have seen. It could get really ugly if they don't find a way to stop somebody."

Louis Riddick: "Their defense has been inept for years. It is a remake of the previous regime. It's all on Luck's shoulders." 

 

I'll add Golich and Riddick did not rule out sitting Luck for the season and I have advocated this as well. As long as the Colts are dazed and confused keep Luck out and go for a high draft pick next year 

 

We've become a laughing stock in the NFL. We earned that yesterday.

[richard pallo]

7 minutes ago, Myles said:

What would be the correct reaction to a game lost 46-9 against a Rams team that was predicted to win 5 games?

Patience. Lot's of new starters, many injuries to key players, played a non conference team on the road so the loss is not a conference loss. Defensive line and OL played well considering the circumstances.  Lots of upside to look forward to when starters return and rookies gain more experience.  

[1959Colts]

The laughing stock once again. 

 

[csmopar]

All I know is loud mouth Dakich is gonna go off today and I'm gonna listen to every bit lol.  Pagano should have been fired.  Hell, my daughter's teddy bear could coach better .  

 

 

and for the record, I was all for giving him a chance but if you can't even get the team you're playing name right, you have no business near a clipboard for any team

[gacoop1]

"WERC82" We're in total agreement.  The coach and his staff are to blame for this inept team...underperformers, need to overhaul the coaching staff to turn this team around while it's still early in the season...Sad.