Tarell Basham

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I haven't heard much on here about our 3rd round pick and was curious to how he was doing.

So I looked on internet:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjInM_R6ZPWAhVK_WMKHRifBXUQFghRMAc&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Ffantasy%2Ffootball%2Fnews%2Fcolts-tarell-basham-not-making-strong-impression%2F&usg=AFQjCNFpD_SiD0YQj7wkcocsEwUT6CwRzA

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjInM_R6ZPWAhVK_WMKHRifBXUQFghWMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indianasportscoverage.com%2Frookie-tarell-basham-feels-behind-learning-curve-in-colts-camp%2F&usg=AFQjCNE_mVJgQ7EpniSMp6ophz8e34rSvQ

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjInM_R6ZPWAhVK_WMKHRifBXUQFghGMAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stampedeblue.com%2F2017%2F8%2F28%2F16213172%2Fcolts-need-more-from-tarell-basham-sooner-rather-than-later&usg=AFQjCNEqGn5GSwBBahu6lKECdK3KXCNshQ

 

I remember during the draft as Tim Williams was dropping I was hoping he would fall to us, despite his red flags. But he went to the Ravens just 2 picks prior to colts drafting Basham.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwionaiI7JPWAhUN62MKHfyvB3kQFghZMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Ffantasy%2Ffootball%2Fnews%2Fravens-tim-williams-shining-in-camp%2F&usg=AFQjCNHGqPostVLVSPDRd-gqQL1UuHxPbw

 

Now it's way, way too early to say Tim Williams career will be better than Basham's but so far the edge rusher from Bama may have been what we've been wanting for the last few years. And the Draft is not Madden, so trading up a few spots are not automatic. But maybe moving up to get Williams would have been a good move? Time will tell.

 

But what do some of you guys here feel about Basham since most of you have seen him in preseason games?

 

 

[OHColtfan]

Maybe it was just me, but they seemed to play him more in Simon's role at strong side backer rather than the rush backer spot. I do remember him making a few tackles, but nothing that I can remember on pressuring the QB. 

 

With only 4 OLB, we surely need him to contribute more than just on special teams, but that seems like his most likely role right now.

[NewColtsFan]

 

It's a long, long season.....

 

Whatever Basham is right now,  odds are he'll be better as the season progresses.

 

Or at least,  that's what we hope for.....

 

[UKColt13]

Give him a month then start to judge. 

 

It's a big leap for passrushers and he's getting work with Mathis.

 

He'll get every opportunity to improve. Although personally I preferred Mingo as an OLB to Basham in preseason.

[Fluke_33]

8 minutes ago, UKColt13 said:

Give him a month then start to judge. 

 

It's a big leap for passrushers and he's getting work with Mathis.

 

He'll get every opportunity to improve. Although personally I preferred Mingo as an OLB to Basham in preseason.

seems to be a position that can take a while to click.  Not many rookies flourish

[Smonroe]

9 minutes ago, UKColt13 said:

Give him a month then start to judge. 

 

It's a big leap for passrushers and he's getting work with Mathis.

 

He'll get every opportunity to improve. Although personally I preferred Mingo as an OLB to Basham in preseason.

 

Better yet, give him a season. 

 

I didn't think they played him to his strength in the preseason, but the coaches usually know what's best.  He didn't look like he had much of a spark, but that's probably to be expected given he's still learning the D.

[cbear]

He had his moments in the first game (I think), but overall, he didn't do much re. rushing the passer.

[Defjamz26]

He's young. Also came from a small school. Needs time to develop. That's why I didn't buy too much into the PFF rankings a few weeks ago where he had like an 80+ ranking.

[NorthernBlue]

1 hour ago, OHColtfan said:

Maybe it was just me, but they seemed to play him more in Simon's role at strong side backer rather than the rush backer spot. I do remember him making a few tackles, but nothing that I can remember on pressuring the QB. 

 

With only 4 OLB, we surely need him to contribute more than just on special teams, but that seems like his most likely role right now.

http://www.colts.com/team/depth-chart.html

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/IND

According to the depth chart, he's behind Sheard in the rush backer role. SImon is backed up by Mingo. 

[NewEra]

Let's wait and see before we Basham...

[twfish]

Just my opinion here, but it seems more like we took him as a project. He was far from being a polished player in college. Never had a double digit sack year. However he has really good physical attributes and I think that is what ultimately got him into the third round. I don't expect much from him this year, but with Mathis as his coach he could very well come on very strong. 

 

To the OP, it's very hard to compare him to Tim Williams. Tim was thought of as being a 1st round draft pick. He fell for multiple reasons. Believed he couldn't learn a play book, a system player and drugs. Just because they were drafted in the same round, it's like comparing apples to oranges between the 2 kids.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Doesn't really matter since Williams went before him. 

[Boiler_Colt]

34 minutes ago, twfish said:

Just my opinion here, but it seems more like we took him as a project. He was far from being a polished player in college. Never had a double digit sack year. However he has really good physical attributes and I think that is what ultimately got him into the third round. I don't expect much from him this year, but with Mathis as his coach he could very well come on very strong. 

 

To the OP, it's very hard to compare him to Tim Williams. Tim was thought of as being a 1st round draft pick. He fell for multiple reasons. Believed he couldn't learn a play book, a system player and drugs. Just because they were drafted in the same round, it's like comparing apples to oranges between the 2 kids.

 

Not true, he had 11.5 sacks his senior year and was the DPOY in his conference.

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/tarell-basham?id=2558165

[twfish]

31 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

 

Not true, he had 11.5 sacks his senior year and was the DPOY in his conference.

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/tarell-basham?id=2558165

I stand corrected, I only saw 9 sacks when I was looking at numbers

[Coffeedrinker]

Here is what I saw:

 

Positives:

Good explosion at the snap

Good quickness

Smart hand play

Can lean and turn the corner without losing a lot of speed.

 

Needs work:

Doesn't really have any pass rushing moves.  If he doesn't beat his guy with speed he won't beat him.

Needs to be a bit more under control as he turns to pursue.

Needs to get more violent with his hands.  Saw several times that he tried to swipe a lineman's hands down, he had good timing with the swipe and accurate but I just don't think he's use to NFL strength yet.

 

So, I didn't really see anything bad about his play, all his "needs work" that I saw pertain to the differences between college and the NFL.

 

[Kyle]

He will have 5 tackles, 2 sacks, and a forced fumble week 1.  

[Smonroe]

4 minutes ago, Kyle said:

He will have 5 tackles, 2 sacks, and a forced fumble week 1.  

 

I hope you're right, but if I were in Vegas I'd take the Under on all three.

 

Poke me after the game if you want to gloat.

[GoColts8818]

Are some trying to say basham is a bust before he even plays a real game?  That seems to be what people are hinting at here.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Are some trying to say basham is a bust before he even plays a real game?  That seems to be what people are hinting at here.

 

The verdict is in bro... BUST.

 

 

 

 

[Dingus McGirt]

You guys are hilarious.

 

[IndyScribe]

50 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

The verdict is in bro... BUST.

 

 

 

 

Dang, I guess we should end the season. He's a bust. Might as well not play a game and bench him. 

 

I honestly don't get all the Rivers hype. I think the Patriots were after Basham as well but we drafted higher. Rivers is out for the year anyway. Also, that first guy clearly doesn't believe in Marlon Mack. Besides, let's see what we have in Mack and Basham. Twitter users were also the ones that hated on the Hooker pick, so I wouldn't go to them for your opinion.

[NewEra]

Lets go to the twits who tweet for our info on a guy who hasn't played a down. Social media is annoying....gives all the * who SHOULDNT have voices....voices

[jameszeigler834]

9 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

The verdict is in bro... BUST.

 

 

 

 

I will give him a season to develop and see if he does anything next year.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

10 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I will give him a season to develop and see if he does anything next year.

 

Obviously. I was just being facetious. A handful of preseason snaps isn't enough to draw a conclusion from IMO, unless the player just clearly can't handle the leap from college to NFL.

[SP_21]

21 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

The verdict is in bro... BUST.

 

 

 

 

We have some of the most delusional clueless fans in the entire world. See this kind of thing all the time on social media. 

[chad72]

Did Basham play in a 3-4 or 4-3 in college? 

 

This one states his fit is 4-3 DE. I'm hoping it's not Bjoern Werner part II (j/k)

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pff-scouting-report-tarell-basham-edge-ohio

 

 

I saw this write up on PatsPulpit:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.patspulpit.com/platform/amp/2017/3/29/15102544/2017-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-ohio-edge-tarell-basham-could-be-steal-of-the-draft

 

Unless you're a first rounder with elite athleticism, you're going to be a project in year 1, IMO

[jameszeigler834]

3 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Obviously. I was just being facetious. A handful of preseason snaps isn't enough to draw a conclusion from IMO, unless the player just clearly can't handle the leap from college to NFL.

Some can and some cant a year or two down the road we will see where he is at.