Colts Roster Moves (Countdown to 53)

[Finball]

22 minutes ago, krunk said:

I like that move. Ive always felt we needed a Bruiser. Turbin is sort of that, but Jones is more of what I'm talking about.

 

He goes down way too easily from slightest contact to be a bruiser.

 

Has pretty good traits but they haven't translated to the field very well.

[RockThatBlue]

Eventual Turbin replacement is what I'm thinking too.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, TKnight24 said:

 

 

 

 

So how many guys did the acolts claim

[TKnight24]

 

 

 

 

[TKnight24]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

So how many guys did the acolts claim

5

 

Matt Jones & 4 others 

[krunk]

2 minutes ago, IndyScribe said:

Could he be a Turbin replacement in a couple of years?

I see him as more of a complement to the different styles we have. Hes that guy you bring in when we want to bang. Him, Turbin, and Gore. Then Mack adds the slash and burn. I also like it because its clear we will be running the ball more which protects our QBs.

[IndyScribe]

1 minute ago, TKnight24 said:

 

 

 

 

Interesting. If they release Gore, then Mack would be RB #1. They must believe in him. Is he ready to take that spot though?

[Fisticuffs111]

Yeah, I know it's not a popular opinion but I agree with possibly letting Gore go.

Not just for us but for him. I genuinely get the feeling he doesn't particularly want to be here.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, TKnight24 said:

5

 

Matt Jones & 4 others 

That is what 

I thought but ABs tweet was Confusing 

[RockThatBlue]

Who were the other 4 claims?

[IndyScribe]

1 minute ago, krunk said:

I see him as more of a complement to the different styles we have. Hes that guy you bring in when we want to bang. Him, Turbin, and Gore. Then Mack adds the slash and burn. I also like it because its clear we will be running the ball more which protects our QBs.

I don't see how we're going to use him a lot though. Mack + Gore will get the majority of the carries, with Turbin in on short yardage. I suppose he can come in for Turbin if Turbin gets injured.

[TKnight24]

 

 

 

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, RockThatBlue said:

Who were the other 4 claims?

Pierre Desir, Matt Hazel, Kenny Moore, Ian Silberman 

[IndyScribe]

Interesting. Does anyone know if they're good?

 

I agree with releasing Gore, if only to let him finally win a championship.

[Fisticuffs111]

Desir getting some praise from Seattle fans. Seems like a good addition.

[PrincetonTiger]

Okay what 5 players were cut?

[TKnight24]

 

 

 

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Stole Moore from NE

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, IndyScribe said:

Interesting. Does anyone know if they're good?

 

I agree with releasing Gore, if only to let him finally win a championship.

Yeah it's too bad for his career. He came here thinking we would take the next step and we took a step back unfortunately. The Andre Johnson signing was terrible

[Fisticuffs111]

Hoped we'd see a LB signing but we got some positions of need. And the one that wasn't particularly a need, RB, we got a solid talent in Matt Jones. Can't complain.

[RockThatBlue]

Chris Ballard is a machine lol. I'm not sure he even sleeps. I think he stays up all night looking at roster sheets.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Hoped we'd see a LB signing but we got some positions of need. And the one that wasn't particularly a need, RB, we got a solid talent in Matt Jones. Can't complain.

CB might have tried to get a LBer

[PrincetonTiger]

Hazel is a Coastal Carolina Alum

Silberman started at Florida and finished his playing career at Boston College

[Fisticuffs111]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

CB might have tried to get a LBer

For sure, not saying he didn't, and he still might try to find one. 8 LB's is probably enough but I'm just not big on the ILB's.

[TKnight24]

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, TKnight24 said:

 

Good Luck TY

[il vecchio]

Someone from the OL is going.  We aren't going to keep 11 there.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Yeah not saying he didn't. He still might try to find one too. 8 LB's is probably enough but I'm just not big on the ILB's.

A decent one might be cut today from another team to make place for a wire claim. We can dream!

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, il vecchio said:

Someone from the OL is going.  We aren't going to keep 11 there.

Clark maybe?

[krunk]

Dont think Gore is released. Chud typically carries 4 backs almost anywhere ive seen him.

[Fisticuffs111]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Clark maybe?

Could be. I'm thinking possibly Schwenke though as a somewhat surprise cut.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Could be. I'm thinking possibly Schwenke though as a somewhat surprise cut.

With Kelly shelved for a little bit not sure about that but if RK was a full Go then yes

[il vecchio]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Could be. I'm thinking possibly Schwenke though as a somewhat surprise cut.

I might have guessed Clark, except for the heavy balance of guards that leaves.

[throwing BBZ]

17 hours ago, ColtsFanMikeC said:

 

He didn't perform much worse, either.  McGill and Parry are both guys who have limited upside.  They are OK players, but nothing more and nothing with their frame or skillset to show that they will continuously improve in this league.  They are average rotation guys, but that is it.  Stewart has a huge frame and a lot more raw potential.  Coming from a small school with his size and raw skillset should hopefully suggest he can be developed into something more than just a mediocre/average DL and instead become a very solid player in this league.  He also seems like he may have more versatility to rotate around DL positions.

 

 

Agree with this.  Stewart has a much higher ceiling and McGill showed some solid pass rushing plays but also has a lot of plays that show his weaknesses if you watch the tape entirely.  I appreciate what McGill and Parry gave us fans in terms of effort to the Colts, but the fact is that neither of them are anything more than average rotational players.  Stewart right now is probably not much more than that either, but he's got better physical traits and a higher potential to be a very solid player in this league with his raw skills.

 

 

Dorsett as a 1st rounder had 18 catches and 33 catches in 2 years in the league.  I don't really think it's fair to say 'this is not a well informed fan base.'  Most of the arguments on this board are opinions and to suggest your opinion is better than mine and others or for me to suggest mine is better than yours and others doesn't mean others aren't well informed.

 

Dorsett has undoubtedly underperformed as a number 1 overall draft pick.  In his rookie year, we expected (and the coaches did, too) him to be a dynamic special teams player and run after the catch guy.  He never panned out as a return guy and he never really showed anything to suggest he'd be a gamebreaker as a receiver (whether it was the long ball, or breaking a screen or reverse for a huge play w/ his speed and athleticism). 

 

He did show potential at times and he wasn't terrible for us.  However, both TY and Moncrief have outperformed him and Chester Rogers seemed to outperform him as well.

 

Perhaps Dorsett wasn't being used properly.  Perhaps he needs more time to develop.  That said, 51 catches in a 2 year span from a first round draft pick is simply not worth the value we invested in him.

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Part of his issue is he hasn't stayed healthy.  Pagano seemed to be addressing him almost directly earlier this preseason when he made a comment about nobody's job being safe, even the dinged up guys who can't practice because they've got minor little injuries.

 

Dorsett seems like a guy that could shine in NE's system, but he wasn't doing so in ours.  It's good we got something in return for him and I wish him the best.  That said, Dorsett's 2 year body of work in Indy did basically nothing to warrant anyone having confidence that Indy's system would be the one for him to develop into a productive player in.  I mean last year with Moncrief hurt, you would expect him to step up and light the world on fire like a 2nd year first-round draft pick should do given that opportunity, instead he got outshined by an undrafted rookie and finished the year with 33 catches (average or below average numbers for a 3rd or 4th receiver -- certainly not what anyone would want from a #1 or #2).

 

 

 

 

   Grover has the size/length needed to disrupt at the line of scrimmage that the others would never have. Love him as a Colt.

 

 Reggie Wayne 1st two seasons 29 games  16 starts
 Reggie had a much higher catch % because Manining was much more accurate than Lucky is at throwing quick, highly accurate passes.  That being said, thank you for such an accurate assessment of what Dorsett is and isn't.
  Glad we moved him and i am hoping we soon add a Bug to our game day roster. Big is better.
 76 catches
1061 yards

4 td`s

 Dorsett 26 games  7 starts
51 catches

753 yards

3 TD's
 

[Fisticuffs111]

Apparently Desir was the preseason PFF top rated CB.

[PrincetonTiger]

Desir is a big corner

 6'2 206

[Fisticuffs111]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

With Kelly shelved for a little bit not sure about that but if RK was a full Go then yes

True but we're pretty thin at T too. And Clark is the only other guy besides AC who's had time at LT, even if he was bad.

But yeah, we'll be left thin at an OL position either way if we cut one.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Apparently Desir was the preseason PFF top rated CB.

At least for me his release was a shocker

[TKnight24]

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

I sense a shock cut or two coming...