2017-2018 Indiana Pacers and Everything NBA Thread
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By Lucky Colts Fan · Posted
I thought this was an interesting watch: There are really only a handful of Superstar Free Agent signings that you can point to and say "that's why they won a SB": Tom Brady to Tampa. Reggie White to Green Bay. Deion Sanders to Dallas/SF. Brees to New Orleans. Peyton to Denver. And every one of those guys is in the conversation of being the best to play their position... like ever. But the key is that the teams they went to had already been built through the draft, which is what Ballard is doing. If you build it, they will come. (We can kind of already see this with Rivers choosing the Colts last year and Wentz preferring the Colts this year) I don't think anyone that was a free agent this year is in the conversation of being the GOAT at their respective position, so it really didn't make sense to break the bank for any of the "superstar" free agents this year. I know @DEFENSE doesn't like Ballards "dollar general method", but it's pretty smart considering the big splash free agent signings rarely correlate to SBs, because those elite HoF-type Superstar Free Agents only come around once in a blue moon. And Ballard has spent quite a bit the last two offseasons on arguably the two most important positions: QB to make the offense run, and 3T to make the defense run. He just didn't spent it on superstar free agents, he traded for proven guys still in their prime. Ballard is being aggressive with trades and big contracts, but he isn't being stupid wasting big money on a FA when there isn't a guy worth that kind of money. -
Of course that's within reason. Although... to be honest... I personally would draft one of the top 4 QBs if he falls even with Wentz on the roster... but I know I'm in the small minority here and I know Ballard would never do that. And I think it would be a mistake not to take him if he fell(Lance or Fields lets say) . Getting as many good shots at a franchise QB as possible to me is more valuable than a random late 1st DE or OT or WR or CB. Especially when you see what those QBs go for once they fail. Wentz failed and still managed to return 1st and a 3d. Darnold has been bottom 5 QB for his entire career and he still managed to return 2nd , 4th and 6th(this is about 1st round type value). QBs are valuable. I consider all top 4 QBs great prospects and amazing value at 21... so... if one of them falls... I run to the podium. If Wentz returns to his MVP form... great... You have an MVP type QB and you have an amazing backup for a QB who's had injury problems for several years... or if he's amazing in practice and beats Wentz... maybe you trade Wentz. Or if he's good, but not better than Wentz I bet you can still get at least a second for him in a couple of years. And if Wentz fails you get a shot at a top tier talent with a modest investment. So yeah... this is my line of thinking here.
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By LJpalmbeacher2 · Posted
There are a lot of factors involved, but generally speaking, I believe, a 2021 2nd round pick has the same value as a 2022 1st round pick..... so our 2021 1st round pick should be worth a 2022 1st round pick and additional pick(s). But it takes 2 to tango and Ballard and another GM both need to be willing. -
"Best value" could be a trade(down ... or up?) too, I'm not excluding that. Because of the way NFL teams value picks IMO trade down should almost always be option no.1. Teams are gifting value trying to trade up IMO. So... I'm almost always team "trade down" if such opportunity presents itself.
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