2017-2018 Indiana Pacers and Everything NBA Thread

[2006Coltsbestever]

Yes, Pacers up 3. 2 huge FT's by Dipo

[oldunclemark]

Come on Carroll cant make that shot....tie game

[oldunclemark]

121-119.....2 FTs........we need a stop..badly obviously

[2006Coltsbestever]

Pacers up 121-119, no freakin 3's as Nets have the ball.

[oldunclemark]

Solid 'D'//Good use of the foul by Bogie.....

 

....2 FTs and we win

[2006Coltsbestever]

Yes Sir! Dinnutty's luck ran out. Dipo for 2 shots!

[oldunclemark]

123-119   :01......finally......the win is in

[2006Coltsbestever]

Turn Out the Lights the Party is Over, Merry Christmas Pacers fans, Dipo with 38! 19-14 on the season heading into Christmas we are 5 games above .500 I will take it.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Damn we have won some close games this season. We did blow the Boston game but we have won like 4 or 5 games at the end by huge comebacks. Dipo 38 tonight, Turner 23 Points and 6 Blocks. Nobody would've had us 19-14 going into Christmas. This makes up for the Boston loss.

 

-We are the 4th Seed again in the East! HO HO HO Merry Christmas.

[oldunclemark]

    I think everybody who paid got their money's worth..

 

Take the holiday off and then on to Detroit

[Colts_Fan12]

They played great that second half the refs tried so hard to give it to Brooklyn 

[RockThatBlue]

9 hours ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

They played great that second half the refs tried so hard to give it to Brooklyn 

Yeah I'm not sure which game had worse refs, the Colts game or the Pacers game. 

[RockThatBlue]

Pretty good article on Lance https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2017/12/24/pacers-lance-stephenson-improves-while-entertaining-bankers-life/973883001/

[oldunclemark]

21 hours ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

They played great that second half the refs tried so hard to give it to Brooklyn 

The foul on the 3-point shot was a miserable call...

The shooter cant jump into the defender and get the call

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

The foul on the 3-point shot was a miserable call...

The shooter cant jump into the defender and get the call

They called that crap more then one time it was a very poorly officiated game for some reason we get some really bad officiating at home this year 

[oldunclemark]

 

By the way.....

Its time for the 3-points to be moved back to 27-28 feet.

Allow the 'corner 3' to exist but the top circle 3..needs to be moved way back..

 

I dont want to see NBA teams shoot 40 3s a game..and that;s not why the '3' came in.

Lets make basketball basketball again..

 

The game has always changed and evolved..

Move the 3 line back to 28 feet. Please.  Lord ....its time

Edited December 25, 2017 by oldunclemark

[aaron11]

19 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

 

By the way.....

Its time for the 3-points to be moved back to 27-28 feet.

Allow the 'corner 3' to exist but the top circle 3..needs to be moved way back..

then we would have more of those corner specialists in the league, and it might get even more boring

 

they would just sit there and wait for the ball and not do much else

[oldunclemark]

5 hours ago, aaron11 said:

then we would have more of those corner specialists in the league, and it might get even more boring

 

they would just sit there and wait for the ball and not do much else

That's a shot you have to earn...and the sideline is a defender..plus the corner shooter is out of position defensively..

..and there's no luck nvolved...no banking it in..

 

....Everybody's 'default' shot is throwing up a 3.

Play breaks down: Throw up a '3'

Cant beat my man off the dribble..Throw up a '3'

Cant dribble, Cant pass, cant defend?  Just run off picks and throw up  '3s'

 

Its not good basketball and its not watchable. Take the 'easy' 3 out of the equation.

Make it a tough shot again.

And make the offense run plays

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

OKC just beat Houston, they have now won 6 in a row! Now at 19-15 and only 1.5 games out of the 4th spot. OKC on fire now!

[aaron11]

12 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

That's a shot you have to earn...and the sideline is a defender..plus the corner shooter is out of position defensively..

..and there's no luck nvolved...no banking it in..

 

 

 

its a shorter shot though, and guys work on it specifically 

 

if they make it a lot shorter than the top of the key, then we will have a bunch of guys that just go there and wait, while their team draws the defense inside, then kicks it out to them

 

im with you on making the game less boring, but i would be leery  of any change that promotes more corner threes 

[oldunclemark]

8 hours ago, aaron11 said:

its a shorter shot though, and guys work on it specifically 

 

if they make it a lot shorter than the top of the key, then we will have a bunch of guys that just go there and wait, while their team draws the defense inside, then kicks it out to them

 

im with you on making the game less boring, but i would be leery  of any change that promotes more corner threes 

Everybody cant go to the corner and wait.   you have to earn a corner shot with a good pass.

Youi cant bring the ball up the floor and walk into a corner 3

..And the defense doesn't have to extend if the top-of-the-key 3 is 28 feet...

 

I don't want to eliminate the '3'...I want to make it difficult.

I think a lot of people see that theres far too many 3-attempts ....watch team other than G-State and Houston..Its awful basketball

I would hope the NBA would adjust...

[dgambill]

10 hours ago, aaron11 said:

its a shorter shot though, and guys work on it specifically 

 

if they make it a lot shorter than the top of the key, then we will have a bunch of guys that just go there and wait, while their team draws the defense inside, then kicks it out to them

 

im with you on making the game less boring, but i would be leery  of any change that promotes more corner threes 

Why not widen the court? It would promote spacing and give more room for bigs inside to operate and make it harder for a double team....bigs would stay inside and yes a further 3 would make pick and roll easier to defend because players could afford to go under the screener. Might actually see real ball movement and less one on one. NBA is horrible to watch.

[aaron11]

14 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Everybody cant go to the corner and wait.   you have to earn a corner shot with a good pass.

Youi cant bring the ball up the floor and walk into a corner 3

 

 it only takes one guy to wait in the corner

 

i dont think it takes a good pass either, you just have to draw the defense away.  lebron and ray allen did this a lot

[aaron11]

12 hours ago, dgambill said:

Why not widen the court? It would promote spacing and give more room for bigs inside to operate and make it harder for a double team....bigs would stay inside and yes a further 3 would make pick and roll easier to defend because players could afford to go under the screener. Might actually see real ball movement and less one on one. NBA is horrible to watch.

might be the best solution, as long as they have room to do it

[oldunclemark]

5 hours ago, aaron11 said:

 it only takes one guy to wait in the corner

 

i dont think it takes a good pass either, you just have to draw the defense away.  lebron and ray allen did this a lot

I do think it takes a good pass and the defense does not have to stretch to the 3-line if the 3-line is 29 feet. The corner 3 would be easier to guard. And all players cant go to the corner. All players can drift to the top of the circle.The corner-3 is open because teams  must strcth to defend the Top-c or wing 3

The issue is not the virtues and relative difficulty of the corner-3.  It really isn't.

 

The point is; I think for the sake of good basketball, we've got to get coaches out of the notion that a mid-range shot is a bad shot. To do that, make the extended portion of the mis-named 3-pointg circle 28 or 29 feet. Make it a tough shot.

It would bring back post players and mid-range shooters and create better basketball.

I dont want to eliminate the 3-point shot. I just dont want teams throwing up 30 to 40 3s a game and calling that an offense. Its not watchable

Edited December 27, 2017 by oldunclemark
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[oldunclemark]

I forgot we played Tuesday night, and from the looks of the box score, I guess our team did, too.

40-19 at the quarter?  wow

 

1-3 vs Detroit.

Edited December 27, 2017 by oldunclemark
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[The Fish]

It was a train wreck from the get go. They looked as bad as I thought they'd be before the start of the season.

There's a chance this team is grossly over achieving. It might be a struggle to get into the playoffs, if they play like that too often.

[Bluefire4]

I think this will be the stretch where we start to truly struggle. I hope no one actually thought we'd be an elite team this year or anything close to it.

 

I still stick with my prediction of no higher than 7th seed.

[Colts_Fan12]

6 hours ago, The Fish said:

It was a train wreck from the get go. They looked as bad as I thought they'd be before the start of the season.

There's a chance this team is grossly over achieving. It might be a struggle to get into the playoffs, if they play like that too often.

Our best player didn't even play lol 

[Colts_Fan12]

Some of you fans are funny lol lose a game without our leader and super star and you think we are the worst team in the league 

[2006Coltsbestever]

I miss the game tonight but seen we lost 98-94. Still 19-16 on the season. Dipo didn't play otherwise we would've beat Dallas IMO. What was wrong with him? I didn't see any of the game due to being here at work.

[Jules]

I think the Pacers should be OK. This is an odd time right now, everyone but the Warriors can go into little slumps. You seen it with the Rockets recently and the Celtics have been up and down too with things. Warriors get a pass since even without Curry they still are loaded. Kevin Durant ain't a bad guy to have to carry your team.  

 

Also with Boston........they won tonight but I did notice they played A LOT of games so far, I think it might be the same with Philly. I think it's because those two teams play the London game in January which is just odd that we have NBA in London but we do lol.

 

So before and after this game I know the Celtics get like a long break before it so they got a front loaded schedule so far this year with several back to backs and just very little down time.

 

Even weirder, tomorrow the Rockets go to Boston.........this will be an interesting game. Houston has got to be feeling desperate for another win but the Celtics are tough too. Rockets have flopped recently........

 

 

I also think guys are in and out of the lineup recently for some teams too due to just resting. I seen it with several teams lately. We are reaching that time of the year when fatigue and minor injuries will set in and coaches will want to be cautious.

 

Heck even Lonzo Ball missed the Christmas night game which BUGGED me since I wanted to see that game so bad.  

 

On the plus side I read Christmas NBA ratings were higher then usual. People are tuning into the NBA more now at times. The Christmas NFL games sucked though lol.

[Jules]

On 12/25/2017 at 10:37 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

OKC just beat Houston, they have now won 6 in a row! Now at 19-15 and only 1.5 games out of the 4th spot. OKC on fire now!

 

OKC just beat Toronto too, starting to take shape for them now. Raptors have dropped two in a row now.

 

Hopefully OKC can be the challenger we will need later on for the west.........

[2006Coltsbestever]

6 minutes ago, Jules said:

 

OKC just beat Toronto too, starting to take shape for them now. Raptors have dropped two in a row now.

 

Hopefully OKC can be the challenger we will need later on for the west.........

OKC has now won 7 in a row. Great stuff. They are currently the 5th Seed, not too bad now at 20-15.

[Jules]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

OKC has now won 7 in a row. Great stuff. They are currently the 5th Seed, not too bad now at 20-15.

 

They can move up. They won't pass the Warriors obviously. Not sure about the Spurs, have not watched them lately at all but they kinda bore me.

 

Houston is slumping lately so who knows?

 

OKC just has to keep the ball rolling here........

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, Jules said:

 

They can move up. They won't pass the Warriors obviously. Not sure about the Spurs, have not watched them lately at all but they kinda bore me.

 

Houston is slumping lately so who knows?

 

OKC just has to keep the ball rolling here........

They will definitely finish at least no worse than 4th in the West by seasons end IMO. They will pass Minnesota who is barely ahead of them right now. PG had 33 points tonight and Westbrook put up 30.

[2006Coltsbestever]

The NBA is such a long season and that is why to write teams off because they struggle in the first 20 games or so is really ridiculous. It's a marathon, not a sprint. OKC has way too much talent on that team not be in the Top 4 and they will be shortly.

[Jules]

I know one thing, Cavs/Warriors is the same old freaking same old. Steph Curry is still out and the Cavs STILL lose?  Imagine him in there!!!  I know the calls might have been questionable at the end or the anti calls on Durant but then again I still don't care......Cavs still have not figured out the Warriors and might never will IMO. They might steal one or two vs. the Warriors but not enough to win a real series.

 

Sure the Cavs can add IT too, but that won't solve anything.

 

TT, Korver, JR Smith......not good match ups vs. the Warriors. Kevin Love actually plays his BUTT OFF vs. the Warriors and still people pick on him the most. Kyrie used to score a lot on the Warriors too.

 

Lebron also cannot guard Durant.........at all........

 

Same thing as the finals. Lebron can't slow down Durant AND score too. It's too much for Lebron at his age IMO.

 

I don't see anyone on the Cavs who can realistically guard Durant well enough for a full game.......not Lebron, Crowder or whomever.

 

Brad Stevens is the only coach I have seen at times in the last few years who has given the Warriors trouble, mostly because he plays a very physical game with their guards. Jayson Tatum is only a rookie but he did well vs. Durant at times in the game earlier this year since his long arms and energy were so good it made even Durant praise Tatum and say he was impressed.

 

Of course we will probably get Cavs/Warriors again and this stinks.  Boston still needs Hayward back and probably another piece. I don't trust the Raptors either.

 

What bothers me about the Cavs vs. Warriors is the Cavs always get out muscled by the Warriors and can't match their physicality even though people have often called Golden State soft since they shoot so many 3'.s  Cavs go into these games vs. the Warriors trying to OUTSCORE them it always seems to me and you can't, you have to play tough tough defense.

 

Only OKC can maybe give the Warriors a tough series at this point since they PLAY DEFENSE.

 

[Jules]

Sorry been holding in my Cavs/Warriors rant and let it out finally. Now I can move on lol.

[2006Coltsbestever]

16 minutes ago, Jules said:

I know one thing, Cavs/Warriors is the same old freaking same old. Steph Curry is still out and the Cavs STILL lose?  Imagine him in there!!!  I know the calls might have been questionable at the end or the anti calls on Durant but then again I still don't care......Cavs still have not figured out the Warriors and might never will IMO. They might steal one or two vs. the Warriors but not enough to win a real series.

 

Sure the Cavs can add IT too, but that won't solve anything.

 

TT, Korver, JR Smith......not good match ups vs. the Warriors. Kevin Love actually plays his BUTT OFF vs. the Warriors and still people pick on him the most. Kyrie used to score a lot on the Warriors too.

 

Lebron also cannot guard Durant.........at all........

 

Same thing as the finals. Lebron can't slow down Durant AND score too. It's too much for Lebron at his age IMO.

 

I don't see anyone on the Cavs who can realistically guard Durant well enough for a full game.......not Lebron, Crowder or whomever.

 

Brad Stevens is the only coach I have seen at times in the last few years who has given the Warriors trouble, mostly because he plays a very physical game with their guards. Jayson Tatum is only a rookie but he did well vs. Durant at times in the game earlier this year since his long arms and energy were so good it made even Durant praise Tatum and say he was impressed.

 

Of course we will probably get Cavs/Warriors again and this stinks.  Boston still needs Hayward back and probably another piece. I don't trust the Raptors either.

 

What bothers me about the Cavs vs. Warriors is the Cavs always get out muscled by the Warriors and can't match their physicality even though people have often called Golden State soft since they shoot so many 3'.s  Cavs go into these games vs. the Warriors trying to OUTSCORE them it always seems to me and you can't, you have to play tough tough defense.

 

Only OKC can maybe give the Warriors a tough series at this point since they PLAY DEFENSE.

 

I would love to see a Boston/OKC Finals, just for something new but beating the Warriors for anyone is going to be a near impossible task. When IT comes back and is paired up with LeBron and Love, they will be tough to beat in the East again as well. Not sure Boston can beat them in a series. Too bad Hayward is out, they could use a guy like that vs the Cavs.