Should have taken Dalvin Cook at #15

[tikyle]

On 4/28/2017 at 6:32 PM, BOTT said:

Getting drunk and sleeping with a fat chick is a mistake.  Punching a woman says to me there is something broken with you.

 

I totally disagree.  It's not like he beat her  or has a history of hitting women.  A kid got upset and hit someone who he should not have hit.  It's really as simple as that.  To me it's no different than someone hitting their child, some people think it's unimaginable and some people think it's commonplace.  Hitting women is really no different.  Some men think it's commonplace and some think it's unimaginable.

 

It doesn't really matter what side of the coin you're on because we can universally agree it's wrong.  But people do the wrong thing all the time.

[tikyle]

On 4/28/2017 at 4:16 PM, jvan1973 said:

He tore up a parking ticket and threw it in the face of the woman that wrote it,  Then inched his car toward her because she wouldn't move..

 

That was last year.  

 

You think that is a woman issue?  If so, that's your right.  Now if you're pointing this out to show he has decision making issues then I'm with you.  But to say this incident proves he has lingering issues with women is a reach to me.

[FalseStart]

9 hours ago, IndyScribe said:

I disagree. If we do that, then we lose out on two players. We also don't address the CB need we have. CB was a bigger need than ILB. I'd rather have Wilson over Foster, instead of making the trade. The trade up isn't worth it. 

 

I agree with your point... At that point, we would not have known if Wilson was available. Glad we got him...  The chance to recreate the great Ravens Defense was what was on my mind at the time.  Hooker (Ed Reed) Foster (Ray Lewis)... Paganos golden years...

[BOTT]

16 hours ago, tikyle said:

 

I totally disagree.  It's not like he beat her  or has a history of hitting women.  A kid got upset and hit someone who he should not have hit.  It's really as simple as that.  To me it's no different than someone hitting their child, some people think it's unimaginable and some people think it's commonplace.  Hitting women is really no different.  Some men think it's commonplace and some think it's unimaginable.

 

It doesn't really matter what side of the coin you're on because we can universally agree it's wrong.  But people do the wrong thing all the time.

Yeah, simple as that......

[RockThatBlue]

On 4/29/2017 at 3:11 PM, colt18 said:

That's quite ironic for someone who is a fan of a sport where players literally try to kill each other. Hitting a woman isn't okay, but I'm also not expecting professional football players to be perfect.

How is domestic violence the same as playing a sport? I mean, c'mon...

[WoolMagnet]

I'm not condoning what he did but society is not helpng these kids.

just turn on the TV at any time and you'll see abuse agaist women and children.  We also sit around in our middle-class homes and judge without fully knowing what these kids have been thru. Many of these kids are "trained" to fight to survive.  Their childhoods make them think everyone is out to take from them.  The world is broken.

HOWEVER, that still doesn't excuse anyone from being violent to anyone. Man, woman, or child.

[colt18]

On 5/6/2017 at 2:21 PM, RockThatBlue said:

How is domestic violence the same as playing a sport? I mean, c'mon...

When did I say domestic violence is the same thing as playing football?

 

 

Oh that's right, I didn't.

[That Guy]

10 minutes ago, colt18 said:

When did I say domestic violence is the same thing as playing football?

 

 

Oh that's right, I didn't.

You made a direct comparison between "violently punching a woman" and being a "fan of a sport where players literally try to kill each other."   You then used both instances as explanations for why you don't expect "football players to be perfect." 

 

When you compare two actions as being equal, and then you use them both as justification for the same argument, you are in effect saying they are the same thing.

 

RockThatBlue was just pointing out that your comparison was faulty; and, therefore, it is faulty to say that you condone athletes violently punching women just because you don't expect them to be perfect.

[RockThatBlue]

17 minutes ago, That Guy said:

You made a direct comparison between "violently punching a woman" and being a "fan of a sport where players literally try to kill each other."   You then used both instances as explanations for why you don't expect "football players to be perfect." 

 

When you compare two actions as being equal, and then you use them both as justification for the same argument, you are in effect saying they are the same thing.

 

RockThatBlue was just pointing out that your comparison was faulty; and, therefore, it is faulty to say that you condone athletes violently punching women just because you don't expect them to be perfect.

What That Guy said.

[RockThatBlue]

On 4/29/2017 at 3:11 PM, colt18 said:

That's quite ironic for someone who is a fan of a sport where players literally try to kill each other. Hitting a woman isn't okay, but I'm also not expecting professional football players to be perfect.

You literally did that in this post. 

37 minutes ago, colt18 said:

When did I say domestic violence is the same thing as playing football?

 

 

Oh that's right, I didn't.

 

[colt18]

21 hours ago, That Guy said:

You made a direct comparison between "violently punching a woman" and being a "fan of a sport where players literally try to kill each other."   You then used both instances as explanations for why you don't expect "football players to be perfect." 

 

When you compare two actions as being equal, and then you use them both as justification for the same argument, you are in effect saying they are the same thing.

 

RockThatBlue was just pointing out that your comparison was faulty; and, therefore, it is faulty to say that you condone athletes violently punching women just because you don't expect them to be perfect.

 

Except it wasn't a direct comparison. I said hitting women isn't okay but I don't expect football players to be perfect. Never said the two actions were equal. 

 

20 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

You literally did that in this post. 

 

That's not that same thing.

[Swan Ronson]

Players are literally trying to kill each other?

 

 

[That Guy]

1 hour ago, colt18 said:

 

Except it wasn't a direct comparison.

If they're not directly comparable, why would it be ironic to believe one is wrong but not the other?

[jvan1973]

22 hours ago, Swan Ronson said:

Players are literally trying to kill each other?

 

 

No,  they aren't literally trying to kill each other

[That Guy]

56 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

No,  they aren't literally trying to kill each other

 

Except the '09-'11 Saints and any defender playing directly against Odell Beckham Jr...

[BR-549]

 

  Thread of the off season right here.... lol

[Swan Ronson]

14 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

No,  they aren't literally trying to kill each other

That's what I thought, but somebody explicitly stated that and nobody questioned it. Was just making sure.

[Dark Superman]

We got Luck his RB for the future and his name is Marlon Mack!

[Dark Superman]

I don't think anyone on this forum expected Hooker to be there at 15.

I would draft Malik Hooker over Dalvin Cook every single time.

CB made the right decision in the 1st and we got a steal with Mack in the 4th.

 

[Dark Superman]

On 4/27/2017 at 10:15 PM, Pacergeek said:

Luck needs to be paired with a stud RB to take pressure off him. Besides Bradshaw for a few games, Luck has not had good RB's. Cook would have been a perfect fit next to Andrew. Cook is a real RB, and is a threat to take it house every time he touches the ball. I don't care about the off-field nonsense. I watched the FSU Doc on Showtime, and Cook was a leader and a good kid. Cook could have been Luck's Zeke Elliott. Instead of taking the guaranteed franchise RB, we take a Safety with a lot of question marks. I know our defense stinks, and Safety was certainly a need, but you have to be able to run the football to win playoff games. A stud RB guaranteed to take pressure off Luck, or a Safety that is far from a sure thing? I'm taking the RB to help out my franchise QB

Marlon Mack...

You will regret this post once he's our starter after Gore retires..

[BOTT]

On 5/15/2017 at 6:43 AM, LuckyHooker24 said:

Marlon Mack...

You will regret this post once he's our starter after Gore retires..

Mack will be the starter before the season ends....or at least getting more touches.

[AZColt11]

I'd just keep rotatin.  Gore one series, Turbin the next, Mack, and so on.  Keep'em fresh and they each bring an individual element to the offense.  My question:  Is the OL up to the task?