Dontari Poe scheduled to visit

[Indeee]

Ironically I would have been fine with Poe as I have been screaming for a true nose for years now, however Hankins generates more rush and pocket push to go along with run stoppage. Poe is a space eater allowing our backers to do all the work mostly and considering our backer core as of now consists of 2 previous backups, 1 "barely makes a roster twice now" guy and poundcake, I'm not sure having Poe would have been a good thing

[Virtuoso80]

 

[Jason_]

1 hour ago, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

Parry is not bad, he just undersized, and needs to be in a rotation IMO. 

 

Hes not undersized for the 1 gap the colts have been running the last 2 years

[Coltsman1788]

4 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

 

Cause they, and everyone who signs there is stupid. They have NO QB. They should have offered up whatever it took to get Jimmy G of they had had any sense.

If I am a defensive player I would rather play on the Jags defense than Indy's joke of one. 

 

And as as far as them not having a QB. They have recently had enough success beating the Colts defense without one.  Just saying.  Our defense has been abysmal. 

[jameszeigler834]

50 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

Don't be silly. What I said is the last 2 years were not as outstanding as his first 3. He has a back issue. I didn't say he was awful last year . 

I still think we missed our chance to get a really good player.

[VaAllDay757]

11 minutes ago, Jason_S said:

 

Hes not undersized for the 1 gap the colts have been running the last 2 years

Yes he is

[IndyD4U]

There was a FA a couple years ago that came in and left without a deal but was signed a couple days later. There is hope, but he isn't the only NT available if he isn't signed

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I still think we missed our chance to get a really good player.

It ain't over yet. ESPN just was talking about it live on TV, they made the comment that Poe is gonna check all 3 out and then decide from there. 

[COLTS449]

24 minutes ago, Indeee said:

Ironically I would have been fine with Poe as I have been screaming for a true nose for years now, however Hankins generates more rush and pocket push to go along with run stoppage. Poe is a space eater allowing our backers to do all the work mostly and considering our backer core as of now consists of 2 previous backups, 1 "barely makes a roster twice now" guy and poundcake, I'm not sure having Poe would have been a good thing

 

Some would argue the opposite LOL. Poe was regarded as one of the few 3 down NT's in the NFL who could put up 5-6 sacks up until his bad year this year, He has like 6-7 one year, and yes you can argue he's only really had 2 good years, I'm kinda up in the air on it. I think I want Hankins more........Hankins had 7 in 14, 3 last year. That's not what I'm worried about with our NT though. I want him the take up double teams, keep the LB's clean to make plays, etc. Any pass rush out of a 34 NT is icing on the cake

 

Plus I think Hankins would be a pro bowler in our scheme at NT

[COLTS449]

7 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Yes he is

 

????

 

[weslo1812]

Jags will probably go ahead and give poe the big money that he wants...they got all sorts of money to throw at him.

[Colt Overseas]

Just now, weslo1812 said:

Jags will probably go ahead and give poe the big money that he wants...they got all sorts of money to throw at him.

 

Its reported as well that their highly likely to select Solomon Thomas at 4th overall. So that would give them Poe, Campbell, Jackson, Ngakoue, Day, Fowler and Thomas all on their defensive line.

 

Absolute madness.

[AZColt11]

If not Poe, Let's look at Hankins or Logan then.  Obviously CB wants a DT.  Who would be better in a 3-4?

[dw49]

16 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I still think we missed our chance to get a really good player.

 

I understand and it's always disappointing when your team takes a run at a good player and they don't sign.

 

[AZColt11]

Still some good players left, including Hankins and Hightower who are in their top 11, even if we don't get Poe (10).

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000788031/article/2017-nfl-free-agency-top-101-available-players

[Tmoney]

I really hope he's visits all teams and then decides. I feel like the only disagreement we could've had is the # of years on the contract. I guess he wants a 1 year deal to hit the market again next year.

[Jason_]

56 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Yes he is

 

Lol...no, he's not. He's actually bigger than several guys wade Phillips has used in his 1 gap defense.

[BR-549]

1 hour ago, csmopar said:

Oh no, we suck again!!!!

 

Well.... for somewhere around 48-60 hours we were bad * at least.  Probably one of the best defensive lines in the NFL (had he signed).  It was fun dreaming while it lasted.

 

I am totally being sarcastic for those who question the post..... 

 

[1959Colts]

38 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Still some good players left, including Hankins and Hightower who are in their top 11, even if we don't get Poe (10).

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000788031/article/2017-nfl-free-agency-top-101-available-players

 

I want Zach Brown.

 

20) Zach Brown, Buffalo Bills linebacker: It's unlucky for Brown that Rex Ryan is out of the league just after Brown's breakout season playing in the Ryan brothers' system. There is a big drop-off in the inside linebacker market after Brown.

[Coltsman1788]

41 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Still some good players left, including Hankins and Hightower who are in their top 11, even if we don't get Poe (10).

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000788031/article/2017-nfl-free-agency-top-101-available-players

Thanks for this.  If we don't get Poe, Hankins or Logan would be solid acquisitions in my opinion.

 

I'm disappointed that Ballard did  not get one of the better free agent right guards.  I was hoping we could nab someone like Ronald Leary until I saw he has already signed with the Broncos.  Not much left now.  Maybe DJ Fluker...he is a good run blocker but sub-par in pass protection though.  Disappointing pickings left for OL free agents...unfortunately.  I was really hoping we could add that missing veteran piece on the right side to help solidify our line.  I'm not too high about drafting another rookie and rolling the dice again.

[ColtfreakDVA]

Have the Giants signed  Johnathan Hankins ?  If not this would be an upgrade over Poe.  Better versus the rush

[SaturdayAllDay]

3 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Thanks for this.  If we don't get Poe, Hankins or Logan would be solid acquisitions in my opinion.

 

I'm disappointed that Ballard did  not get one of the better free agent right guards.  I was hoping we could nab someone like Ronald Leary until I saw he has already signed with the Broncos.  Not much left now.  Maybe DJ Fluker...he is a good run blocker but sub-par in pass protection though.  Disappointing pickings left for OL free agents...unfortunately.  I was really hoping we could add that missing veteran piece on the right side to help solidify our line.  I'm not too high about drafting another rookie and rolling the dice again.

Fluker signed with the Giants. 

[COLTS449]

Just now, ColtfreakDVA said:

Have the Giants signed  Johnathan Hankins ?  If not this would be an upgrade over Poe.  Better versus the rush

 

Stud against the run.

[BR-549]

55 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

 

Some would argue the opposite LOL. Poe was regarded as one of the few 3 down NT's in the NFL who could put up 5-6 sacks up until his bad year this year, He has like 6-7 one year, and yes you can argue he's only really had 2 good years, I'm kinda up in the air on it. I think I want Hankins more........Hankins had 7 in 14, 3 last year. That's not what I'm worried about with our NT though. I want him the take up double teams, keep the LB's clean to make plays, etc. Any pass rush out of a 34 NT is icing on the cake

 

Plus I think Hankins would be a pro bowler in our scheme at NT

I agree with that line of thinking.  

 

It is soooooo much easier to scrape to the area you need to be as a LB if the D-line keeps things clean for you.  Not to say shedding a blocker is not an important trait, but if the down linemen take up even one extra blocker, the ability to read the play and get to the point of attack is so much easier.  Creates vision vs clutter.  

 

AND it is always a bonus when a D-lineman makes a sac or tackle before the LB is able to get to the play.... meaning a positive D play of course.

[Coltsman1788]

Just now, SaturdayAllDay said:

Fluker signed with the Giants. 

Thanks.  I guess the remaining pool of available decent free agent RG prospects is even worse than I thought.  lol 

[COLTS449]

Yeah referring to Zach Brown he's a very good ILB. Would be a great signing. Then I'd try and trade for Kendricks or something. Maybe Levy o a 1yr

[COLTS449]

2 minutes ago, BR-549 said:

I agree with that line of thinking.  

 

It is soooooo much easier to scrape to the area you need to be as a LB if the D-line keeps things clean for you.  Not to say shedding a blocker is not an important trait, but if the down linemen take up even one extra blocker, the ability to read the play and get to the point of attack is so much easier.  Creates vision vs clutter.  

 

AND it is always a bonus when a D-lineman makes a sac or tackle before the LB is able to get to the play.... meaning a positive D play of course.

 

Yes. With a stud NT, then a guy like Edwin Jackson would look like a very good ILB.

[Tmoney]

We better hope Poe makes his mind up quick. Or maybe he already told us he's not signing here, but NT needs to be addressed. Hankins will be getting a lot of interest eventually so we need to know if its over with Poe or if hes just visiting everyone and then deciding

[Tmoney]

9 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

 

Yes. With a stud NT, then a guy like Edwin Jackson would look like a very good ILB.

I think Ed needs to be rotational/special teamer. He's got a ton of heart but he's undersized and not a great athlete. Hopefully we sign a NT and an ILB like Zach Brown or Kevin Minter and then draft either Foster or Reddick. 

[COLTS449]

7 minutes ago, Tmoney said:

I think Ed needs to be rotational/special teamer. He's got a ton of heart but he's undersized and not a great athlete. Hopefully we sign a NT and an ILB like Zach Brown or Kevin Minter and then draft either Foster or Reddick. 

 

We have to go EDGE in RD1. No other choice in a very good class. Takk/Williams/Charlton are all tip 6-10 talents IMO. Those guys are going to be that game wrecker we need so bad.

 

As for the ILB's. Yes I agree......But. I'd be cool with bringing in a guy like Brown or Hightower or Levy, and seeing what E-Jak can do next to him. But there's a lot of really good talent at the ILB position this year in the draft. We could come out with 2 starting ILB's in say the 2nd and 4th. There's a bunch of guys I really like in that 3-4 range, and I want Jaylen Reeves Maybin in the 4th-5th. He can be a beast,

[VaAllDay757]

54 minutes ago, Jason_S said:

 

Lol...no, he's not. He's actually bigger than several guys wade Phillips has used in his 1 gap defense.

What does wade philips guys have to do with this? They basically called him undersized in his draft profile...."short, stubby arms and legs" that's part of his weakness http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/david-parry?id=2552438

[Colts1324]

18 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

 

We have to go EDGE in RD1. No other choice in a very good class. Takk/Williams/Charlton are all tip 6-10 talents IMO. Those guys are going to be that game wrecker we need so bad.

 

As for the ILB's. Yes I agree......But. I'd be cool with bringing in a guy like Brown or Hightower or Levy, and seeing what E-Jak can do next to him. But there's a lot of really good talent at the ILB position this year in the draft. We could come out with 2 starting ILB's in say the 2nd and 4th. There's a bunch of guys I really like in that 3-4 range, and I want Jaylen Reeves Maybin in the 4th-5th. He can be a beast,

I think Edwin Jackson will be our starter day 1. I think if we pulled off Brown in FA and drafted an edge rusher, I'd be very happy with our improvements with our linebacking core. 

[Colts1324]

55 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Thanks for this.  If we don't get Poe, Hankins or Logan would be solid acquisitions in my opinion.

 

I'm disappointed that Ballard did  not get one of the better free agent right guards.  I was hoping we could nab someone like Ronald Leary until I saw he has already signed with the Broncos.  Not much left now.  Maybe DJ Fluker...he is a good run blocker but sub-par in pass protection though.  Disappointing pickings left for OL free agents...unfortunately.  I was really hoping we could add that missing veteran piece on the right side to help solidify our line.  I'm not too high about drafting another rookie and rolling the dice again.

Yeah I don't get that either. Reports were he wanted to possibly upgrade the RG and RT both through FA. The draft doesn't have very many guards or tackles that are ready to start. Surprised he didn't sign one of the guards or tackles to a 1 year deal like Warmack, Fluker, or Lang to a contract like Detroit gave him. 

[Tmoney]

15 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

 

We have to go EDGE in RD1. No other choice in a very good class. Takk/Williams/Charlton are all tip 6-10 talents IMO. Those guys are going to be that game wrecker we need so bad.

 

As for the ILB's. Yes I agree......But. I'd be cool with bringing in a guy like Brown or Hightower or Levy, and seeing what E-Jak can do next to him. But there's a lot of really good talent at the ILB position this year in the draft. We could come out with 2 starting ILB's in say the 2nd and 4th. There's a bunch of guys I really like in that 3-4 range, and I want Jaylen Reeves Maybin in the 4th-5th. He can be a beast,

Reddick has the versatility to play off the edge on passing downs. Simon and Sheard are both quality starters so edge is less of a need. Reeves Maybin is 225-230 i dont see him being anything but a dime package backer. We could gamble on a guy with potential in round 3 or we could get a guy who's being compared to Ryan Shazier. I'd rather start Simon and Sheard on edge and draft a pass rush specialist later on. Imagine the LB core of

Sheard Reddick Brown Simon

Drop Reddick to the edge on 3rd and longs drop Geathers to the vacant LB spot. Simon sits. That would be a dream

 

[ColtsBlueFL]

4 hours ago, BCoop said:

Jacksonville is absolutely desperate to be relevant. I could see them telling DP they'll beat any offer Indy puts forward in both years and $$.

 

All they even have to do is match the $$, there's no state income tax here in FL.  It's modest in Indiana, and outrageous in California, NY/NJ.  So more money makes to their bank in FL than some other states, even at the same pay rate.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Why would anyone want to play for a team that has a crappy QB? They are never winning anything big with Blake Bortles at QB. He is just as bad as Brock . If I was a Free Agent and the money was comparable to what other teams were offering me, I would love to be on a team with Andrew Luck. Luck is easily a Top 10 QB in the league and his potential is Great. We were just in the AFC Title Game 2 years ago, Jags cant even muster up an 8-8 season.

[Restored]

16 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Why would anyone want to play for a team that has a crappy QB? They are never winning anything big with Blake Bortles at QB. He is just as bad as Brock . If I was a Free Agent and the money was comparable to what other teams were offering me, I would love to be on a team with Andrew Luck. Luck is easily a Top 10 QB in the league and his potential is Great. We were just in the AFC Title Game 2 years ago, Jags cant even muster up an 8-8 season.

$$$$$$$$$$$

[OLD FAN MAN]

3 hours ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Yes he is

i concur

[OLD FAN MAN]

2 hours ago, VaAllDay757 said:

What does wade philips guys have to do with this? They basically called him undersized in his draft profile...."short, stubby arms and legs" that's part of his weakness http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/david-parry?id=2552438

i concur

[Tmoney]

2 hours ago, Colts1324 said:

I think Edwin Jackson will be our starter day 1. I think if we pulled off Brown in FA and drafted an edge rusher, I'd be very happy with our improvements with our linebacking core. 

Can't be satisfied with Edwin Jackson. We've already improved our edge an ILB like Foster or Reddick next to hypothetically signing Zach Brown/Kevin Minter makes our front 7 ready to win rn. Build the secondary in this deep class round 2 and 3 corner and a safety or 2 corners. Wouldve been nice to have Poe, hopefully we go after another nice NT that's a big need. Reddick also has the ability to rush the passer on 3rd down at a high level.