Jay Kirk Baseball Thread since 2017: The 2021 season, Dodgers Repeat?

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

It seems like the Cards have won more. I swore they won a WS before 2006 but I think you're right. The Giants have won at least 3 since 1984, no?

Correct since I have been a Cubs fan = 1984, Cards have only won the WS in 2006 and 2011. Reds won one in 1990, Giants have won 3 = 2010, 2012, and 2014. Mets won the one in 1986 , the Dodgers have only won 1 as well which was in 1988.

[NFLfan]

5 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Correct since I have been a Cubs fan = 1984, Cards have only won the WS in 2006 and 2011. Reds won one in 1990, Giants have won 3 = 2010, 2012, and 2014. Mets won the one in 1986 , the Dodgers have only won 1 as well which was in 1988.

 

Remember the year that an earthquake struck just before the start of a World Series game? The A's were playing the Giants. I thought the Giants won that year but I believe the A's won. That was the only WS the A's would win of the 4 straight they went to. They lost to the Dodgers and Reds. I can't recall the last team they lost to. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Remember the year that an earthquake struck just before the start of a World Series game? The A's were playing the Giants. I thought the Giants won that year but I believe the A's won. That was the only WS the A's would win of the 4 straight they went to. They lost to the Dodgers and Reds. I can't recall the last team they lost to. 

A's only went 3 seasons in a row, lost to Dodgers in 1988, beat Giants in 1989, lost to Reds in 1990. In 1991, Twins beat Braves . 1987 was Twins over Cards. Twins won 2 WS in that short span with Kirby Puckett! 

[NFLfan]

9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

A's only went 3 seasons in a row, lost to Dodgers in 1988, beat Giants in 1989, lost to Reds in 1990. In 1991, Twins beat Braves . 1987 was Twins over Cards. Twins won 2 WS in that short span with Kirby Puckett! 

 

Lol. I thought they went to 4.  That explains why I could not remember the fourth team. There was none. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Lol. I thought they went to 4.  That explains why I could not remember the fourth team. There was none. 

I know every WS Champion and who played in it since 1970 without looking it up. Shows you I have no life outside of working and sports 

[2006Coltsbestever]

To add to that the Mets won the WS in 1969 

[NFLfan]

30 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I know every WS Champion and who played in it since 1970 without looking it up. Shows you I have no life outside of working and sports 

 

You have a great memory. I know someone who has this unbelievable memory and knows Mets history like no one else. I gave him my date of birth and he promptly told me that the Mets beat the Cubs that day. Lol.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Aroldis Chapman 0 Rings with a team that has won 27. Aroldis Chapman 1 Ring with a team that hadn't won one in 108 years prior to him being a Cub = priceless 

[Jay Kirk]

On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 7:20 PM, HOZER said:

I don’t give a about Joe Buck. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He is not his father that's for sure , absolutely loved his Dad regardless of what sport he was commentating .

[Jay Kirk]

On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 8:46 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Correct since I have been a Cubs fan = 1984, Cards have only won the WS in 2006 and 2011. Reds won one in 1990, Giants have won 3 = 2010, 2012, and 2014. Mets won the one in 1986 , the Dodgers have only won 1 as well which was in 1988.

You go back two years the Cards won three , look over the years and see who has been to the series the most times , regardless of winning the series. Then look at playoff appearances that has to calculate as well . I would be surprised if the Cards were not #1 , I think if you use those matrix the Braves will be included as well. Just curious how they stack up. To me if you don't get to the playoffs is ultimate disappointment , once you make it let the chips fall , there are no guarantees only favorites.

[2006Coltsbestever]

39 minutes ago, Jay Kirk said:

You go back two years the Cards won three , look over the years and see who has been to the series the most times , regardless of winning the series. Then look at playoff appearances that has to calculate as well . I would be surprised if the Cards were not #1 , I think if you use those matrix the Braves will be included as well. Just curious how they stack up. To me if you don't get to the playoffs is ultimate disappointment , once you make it let the chips fall , there are no guarantees only favorites.

Of course all-time the Cards have won way more WS than the Cubs. I was just going by since I have been a Cubs fan (1984), what teams won what. Cards did win it in 1982. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

The 1st WS played was in 1903. The Cubs have made the WS in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1910, 1918, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1938, 1945, and of course 2016 = 11 times.

 

They have won the WS in 1907, 1908, and of course in 2016 = 3 times.

 

-They all count  but because the Cubs hadn't made a WS since 1945 and hadn't won one since 1908 prior to 2016 nobody even mentions this, most people do not care. The game has evolved so much that most people I know, even older people in their 50's and 60's I know rarely talk about anything that happened before 1970. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

@Jay KirkCardinals have won the WS in 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, and 2011 = 11 times. Very impressive. They have the 2nd most only behind the Yankees 27.

[Jay Kirk]

28 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The 1st WS played was in 1903. The Cubs have made the WS in 1906, 1907, 1908, 1910, 1918, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1938, 1945, and of course 2016 = 11 times.

 

They have won the WS in 1907, 1908, and of course in 2016 = 3 times.

 

-They all count  but because the Cubs hadn't made a WS since 1945 and hadn't won one since 1908 prior to 2016 nobody even mentions this, most people do not care. The game has evolved so much that most people I know, even older people in their 50's and 60's I know rarely talk about anything that happened before 1970. 

Lol some of these stars would not be back in the old pre 1970 era all the way back. A pitcher owned the outside of the plate. You ventured to close you would get knocked down or worse. Makes it much harder to hit. The mound was lowered robbing velocity and movement from the pitcher , if you go back to the old way some of these good but not aces , become aces.

[Jay Kirk]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

@Jay KirkCardinals have won the WS in 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, and 2011 = 11 times. Very impressive. They have the 2nd most only behind the Yankees 27.

Yes they have , Lol I was talking just making playoffs since 1984 . I was wondering who leads that stat , was what I was getting at. The Braves have to be up there as well in the NL

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Jay Kirk said:

Yes they have , Lol I was talking just making playoffs since 1984 . I was wondering who leads that stat , was what I was getting at. The Braves have to be up there as well in the NL

Oh yeah, since 1984 I think the Braves lead all teams with playoff appearances. The Cards have alot too and made the WS in 1985 and 1987 and in 2013 with wins in 2006 and 2011. You guys should count 1985 as a win but in the books it isn't. That was highway robbery.

[Jay Kirk]

6 minutes ago, Jay Kirk said:

Lol some of these stars would not be back in the old pre 1970 era all the way back. A pitcher owned the outside of the plate. You ventured to close you would get knocked down or worse. Makes it much harder to hit. The mound was lowered robbing velocity and movement from the pitcher , if you go back to the old way some of these good but not aces , become aces.

The hitters in the old era that could really hit are the ones who could hit the ball anywhere , there are a few of them in the game today , but I don't feel baseball players have changed that much. Stronger yes probably on the whole. But that being said it still doesn't change hand eye coordination.

[Jay Kirk]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Oh yeah, since 1984 I think the Braves lead all teams with playoff appearances. The Cards have alot too and made the WS in 1985 and 1987 and in 2013 with wins in 2006 and 2011. You guys should count 1985 as a win but in the books it isn't. That was highway robbery.

Lol don't remind me , took awhile to get over it.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Jay Kirk said:

Lol don't remind me , took awhile to get over it.

I was in highschool when that series took place and a friend of mine loved the Cards. He had his parents order him a 1985 Cardinals World Championship shirt and wore it a lot the rest of that year. Eventhough they lost, you could still order them from St Louis because of what happened.

[Jay Kirk]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I was in highschool when that series took place and a friend of mine loved the Cards. He had his parents order him a 1985 Cardinals World Championship shirt and wore it a lot the rest of that year. Eventhough they lost, you could still order them from St Louis because of what happened.

I wouldn't have wore it because I know at that time bad calls were part of the game. Still are just not as much. Probably hung it on a wall.

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 minutes ago, Jay Kirk said:

I wouldn't have wore it because I know at that time bad calls were part of the game. Still are just not as much. Probably hung it on a wall.

I know but we were just Freshman in highschool  . Just some things you never forget.

[Jay Kirk]

Im ready for this season to get underway. Looking forward to it. Could be the last of NL old school baseball . I hope not , but it worries me, as well as strike talk. Not in MLB's best interest owners or players . 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Jay Kirk said:

Im ready for this season to get underway. Looking forward to it. Could be the last of NL old school baseball . I hope not , but it worries me, as well as strike talk. Not in MLB's best interest owners or players . 

The NL Central is going to be really good. I will be happy if the Cubs just make the playoffs. If they do make it, that will be 5 straight seasons.

[Jay Kirk]

Over owners Harper and Machado , I'm not taking sides but Harper was offered 300 mil from Nats , Whos getting to greedy ?

[Jay Kirk]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The NL Central is going to be really good. I will be happy if the Cubs just make the playoffs. If they do make it, that will be 5 straight seasons.

As I will be with Cards , I'm guessing neither of us will be disappointed there. 

[Jay Kirk]

Well Brother must go to bed , have a great night . Really good chatting 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Jay Kirk said:

Over owners Harper and Machado , I'm not taking sides but Harper was offered 300 mil from Nats , Whos getting to greedy ?

It is hard to believe neither have been signed but 300 Mill is too much for Harper. I am not sure anyone else would pay him that except for the Nats? I thought maybe the Dodgers but I haven't heard anything lately that the Dodgers even want him now.

Just now, Jay Kirk said:

Well Brother must go to bed , have a great night . Really good chatting 

Take care brother, Baseball is right around the corner 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Have to love these merges 

[NFLfan]

56 minutes ago, Jay Kirk said:

Over owners Harper and Machado , I'm not taking sides but Harper was offered 300 mil from Nats , Whos getting to greedy ?

 

It is insane. How much does he want?!

 

I do wonder where Harper and Machado will eventually land. I would not mind a one-year deal for Machado (or Harper) for the Mets. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

It is insane. How much does he want?!

 

I do wonder where Harper and Machado will eventually land. I would not mind a one-year deal for Machado for the Mets.

How about Harper?

[NFLfan]

8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

How about Harper?

 

We have so many outfielders. I think we could use a different SS; that's why I mentioned Machado. Harper would be good too if he can be a good locker room guy.

 

I know almost nothing about Machado besides his stats. But I hear he can be a dirty player. I don't like that. But is he a good guy in the clibhouse?

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

We have so many outfielders. I think we could use a different SS; that's why I mentioned Machado. Harper would be good too if he can be a good locker room guy.

 

I know almost nothing about Machado besides his stats. But I hear he can be a dirty player. I don't like that. But is he a good guy in the clibhouse?

I know you do not like Harper so I was sort of joking  . Just to see what you would say  . I thought for sure maybe LA would sign Harper 

[NFLfan]

5 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I know you do not like Harper so I was sort of joking  . Just to see what you would say  . I thought for sure maybe LA would sign Harper 

 

Give me Mike Trout. If Harper or Machado is worth $30million/year, then Trout will be worth at least $5 million more per year. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Give me Mike Trout. If Harper or Machado is worth $30million/year, then Trout will be worth at least $5 million more per year. 

Kris Bryant will only make 12,900,000 in 2019. If Harper got a 10 year 300 Million dollar contract, that would be 30,000,000 a year  . Bryant has won an MVP and a WS and would earn way less than what Harper would get in 2019.

[NFLfan]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Kris Bryant will only make 12,900,000 in 2019. If Harper got a 10 year 300 Million dollar contract, that would be 30,000,000 a year  . Bryant has won an MVP and a WS and would earn way less than what Harper would get in 2019.

 

Harper is considered a better player and he has no injury history. I'd rather have Bryant than Harper, especially if he is making less than half of what Harper will be getting. 

 

$30 million per year is too much for any one player. I hope they don't get it. They can "feed their families" on $25 million/year. 

[HOZER]

7 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

Harper is considered a better player and he has no injury history. I'd rather have Bryant than Harper, especially if he is making less than half of what Harper will be getting. 

 

$30 million per year is too much for any one player. I hope they don't get it. They can "feed their families" on $25 million/year. 

Harper has an injury history.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/another-injury-bryce-harper-another-question-hes-really-worth-500-million-130003881.html

 

Thats from 2017, can’t recall any other injuries since though.

 

I believe  the reason he hasn’t resigned with Nats is that he wants to play for a different team, change of scenery, someone he believes to be a contender. Still hearing Padres,Giants, and Phillies. 

[HOZER]

8 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

We have so many outfielders. I think we could use a different SS; that's why I mentioned Machado. Harper would be good too if he can be a good locker room guy.

 

I know almost nothing about Machado besides his stats. But I hear he can be a dirty player. I don't like that. But is he a good guy in the clibhouse?

Like I mentioned previously, he’s a dirty player, willing to hurt opponents to make a play is not ok in my book. Trying to bust up a play is one thing, but risking ending someone’s season/career is not right. IMO that attitude translates to clubhouse, but that’s just my opinion.

 

Im hearing the White Sox are trying to sign him, he would fit in with those bum Southsiders!!! lol jk I like the White Sox as long as they’re  not against my Cubs.

[HOZER]

On 2/16/2019 at 7:28 PM, NFLfan said:

 

Why is he disliked so much? Vikings fans absolutely despise him.  I'm not crazy about him but he isn't that bad. I think Alex Rodriguez and the two people who broadcast with him do a pretty good job. 

Ugh, Alex Rodriguez, my second least favorite, lol. Liked him as a player for the most part, but his announcing not so much. He seems to put his foot in his mouth often, like the whole Cubs/Darvish/Madden situation. He was spreading rumors on air that were flat out not true, and Im not a huge fan of Darvish. I do think prior players usually make better sportscasters due to thier knowledge of the game, but I also think that throwing a microphone at someone based on who they are and not thier ability to call a game doesn’t always work. He is fairly new at it, so maybe he’ll get better. Somewhere I read that he even thinks he stinks at it, lol. I think the female on the crew, Jessica Mendoza, does a great job. 

 

Don't get me started on the Blowhard Buck, I cant stand him. I think those who call games should be impartial when announcing a game, which he never is. Local broadcasters I get, but not ones that are on the national stage. He always goes on tangents about things that do not concern the game going on in front of him, sometimes completely disregarding significant plays that just happened.....Hated when he did the Cubs 2016 World Series. Don’t have any issues with his dad.

 

 

 

 

A lot of times l’ll turn volume down on TV and listen to Coomer and Hughes on the radio, so much better!!!!

 

 

 

OK....... I’m going to get more coffee.

[HOZER]

1 down, 1 to go......

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/02/19/manny-machado-to-padres-in-surprise-end-to-endless-saga/amp/

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

8 hours ago, HOZER said:

1 down, 1 to go......

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/02/19/manny-machado-to-padres-in-surprise-end-to-endless-saga/amp/

I was suprised he got 300 mil over 10 years. I expected the 30 mil a year but not over that long a period.