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But we can only judge his collegiate performance based on those numbers. We can do no such things with regards to anticipating or projecting his NFL ability. Brady Quinn, Mark Sanchez, and Jimmy Clausen should all be Pro Bowlers by those standards.

There are intangible things we can look for; certain traits the scouts can see. Nothing matters, however, until Luck faces an NFL defense and high pressure situations, all over the course of one or more long seasons.

stats are nice to look at but they dont tell the whole story. scouts look at his mechanics, his footwork, his accurary. but what i believe makes a great qb is two things poise and response. can he get guys to rely with on him. does he fold under pressure, how does he respond to throwing a pick six, is he riddled easly, as the game keeps going how does he respond to high pressure situations. theses are questions you have research on a qb imo

Yes, to get a full picture of how a prospect might perform at the NFL level, scouts do these analyses, including some assessment of the intangibles: leadership, handling adversity, media, teammate relationships, etc. The paid professionals have analyzed Luck thoroughly, and have given him the consensus #1 overall rank.

Doogansquest, I agree that scouts can be wrong, and you cannot know until they are tested in the NFL. However, given that we cannot have that information before the draft, we must make do with the best available information we have. I am sure you do not advocate thinking that one QB prospect is as likely to succeed in the NFL as any other. How do you suggest the Colts management make that decision on which QB prospect to draft? Can you tell them with a straight face that you believe Osweiler to be as good a prospect as Luck? That they have equal probability to be successful replacing Peyton?

I hope not.

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I really think Peyton is looking like he is gone. He may not know by the time March 8th rolls around whether he'll be ready to go or not, so therefore Irsay will have to release him.

Also, now that we have a creative and aggressive defensive coach in Pagano, I could see us drafting bigger players who are more physical as he wants this team to be more physical than it has been in the past.

1st round- QB Andrew Luck (Best QB in a few decades. We're set at QB for the next 13 or so years.)

2nd- NT Dontari Poe (Pagano needs a true NT for this defense since we may see a more hybrid defense involving the 3-4, and Poe slips a little due to him being a little raw, but he can be coached up.) Alternative picks include: WR Mohamed Sanu, WR Alshon Jeffery, DT Devon Still, S Mark Barron, CB Janoris Jenkins.

3rd- TE Dwayne Allen (The TE class isnt very good this year so they could fall a bit but getting Allen who is arguably the best TE at the top of round 3 is a good value and gives Luck a good weapon since I think Clark could be gone.) Alternative picks include: CB Casey Hayward, CB Jayron Hosley, OG Kevin Zeitler, NT Josh Chapman.

4th- CB Leanord Johnson (We need a good CB to pair with Powers, and Johnson is very underrated and Pagano could do some great things in coaching him up.) Alternative picks include: DE Cam Johnson, DE Chandler Jones, WR Reuben Randle

Rest of draft - BPA

I also could see us either restructuring Freeney's deal and cutting Brackett, Wayne, and possibly Addai so with the freed up cap room along with not bringing back Manning, I would like us to dip into FA to get guys like OG Carl Nicks and CB Ladarius Webb.

Leonard Johnson is projected to go before the 4th round.

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But we can only judge his collegiate performance based on those numbers. We can do no such things with regards to anticipating or projecting his NFL ability.

Yet teams do it every year and for every player they draft. That is why they watch film, do interviews, have senior bowls, east/west shrine games and individual workouts, and...
There are intangible things we can look for; certain traits the scouts can see. Nothing matters, however, until Luck faces an NFL defense and high pressure situations, all over the course of one or more long seasons.

Is there a position or player that is NOT true about?
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Yeah, I love the logic a lot of the fans on here (and possibly even the front office, given recent events):

1. The Colts were good with Manning.

2. Without Manning, the Colts were terrible.

3. In order to make the Colts good again, the only thing to do is to get rid of Manning.

The first 2 are right but the 3rd one is far off. That is not logic, you are twisting the words of many fans here who want Luck. With Manning being healthy OR not, taking Luck makes the most sense. Even if Manning is back healthy, we do not know of any repercussions of the surgery or how his play will be post surgery. We can only guess at best. To have a backup QB who is capable is extremely important so this franchise does not have a repeat of 2011.

3. In order to make the Colts good again, address the QB position. The most important position in football.

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