2016-2017 Indiana Pacers season (and the rest of the NBA)

[2006Coltsbestever]

Glad we won tonight as it was much needed. I wont evaluate this team until after 30 games. We will know a lot by then.

[oldunclemark]

Blue..................he'll be fine....he's not washed up....he's not garbage......6 games

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Glad we won tonight as it was much needed. I wont evaluate this team until after 30 games. We will know a lot by then.

 

We have so many new players.....they have to learn to play together...and they have to learn it in games,.

That's how GSW has been blown out twice so far. They'll get it together and we will, too..

 

We're not playing good defense and I think its because we have a guy from the Nets and a guy from the Hawks and a guy from the Bulls and  a guy from the Hornets..

It would be a surprise if we did play well together the first half of the season..

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

 

We have so many new players.....they have to learn to play together...and they have to learn it in games,.

That's how GSW has been blown out twice so far. They'll get it together and we will, too..

 

We're not playing good defense and I think its because we have a guy from the Nets and a guy from the Hawks and a guy from the Bulls and  a guy from the Hornets..

It would be a surprise if we did play well together the first half of the season..

Yep, that's why I say I give it at least 30 games.

[Bluefire4]

PG better hope he doesn't get suspended for that kick.

[2006Coltsbestever]

30 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

PG better hope he doesn't get suspended for that kick.

I think he will for 1 game because the ball hit a fan. He will get fined big as well. Probably 25,000 or so is my guess.

[BigQandTheManiac]

Good win tonight...but can they do it on the road??

[Gavin]

Jefferson has struggled with his shot early on but he has a lengthy history demonstrating that wont last. He is not going to be a big contributor like he was in Charlotte and Utah. He is not in that kind of shape. What your going to get from him on average is what David West is now. he will come in and contribute a little bit but his biggest contribution will come in practice and in the locker room

 

 

I'd like to see Thad get more minutes. Mcmillan has him playing 30 minutes a game. I'd like him to be up to 32-34 because he can do it and the drop off in talent behind him is significant

 

We are still probably 2 years and 2 solid drafts from a serious title run. We don't have all the pieces just yet. Until then  I think its fair to expect a top 2-3-4 seed in the East given our starting talent and skill and deep playoff runs. We still don't have quite enough to take down the giant in the East known as Cleveland......But our time is coming

[RockThatBlue]

15 hours ago, Gavin said:

Jefferson has struggled with his shot early on but he has a lengthy history demonstrating that wont last. He is not going to be a big contributor like he was in Charlotte and Utah. He is not in that kind of shape. What your going to get from him on average is what David West is now. he will come in and contribute a little bit but his biggest contribution will come in practice and in the locker room

 

 

I'd like to see Thad get more minutes. Mcmillan has him playing 30 minutes a game. I'd like him to be up to 32-34 because he can do it and the drop off in talent behind him is significant

 

We are still probably 2 years and 2 solid drafts from a serious title run. We don't have all the pieces just yet. Until then  I think its fair to expect a top 2-3-4 seed in the East given our starting talent and skill and deep playoff runs. We still don't have quite enough to take down the giant in the East known as Cleveland......But our time is coming

I agree on Thad. Thad is having a very nice start to his Pacers career.

[RockThatBlue]

Pelicans cut Lance and signed Archie Goodwin.

[Gavin]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/pelicans-lance-stephenson-diagnosed-with-groin-injury-out-indefinitely/

 

Lance has some sort of groin injury that will require surgery and with his contracted being basically non guaranteed and the team having other injuries to deal with they just decided to cut him. Sounds like he will be out a while. Seems like they plan to release him to sign Archie Goodwin

[RockThatBlue]

Dreadful first quarter. And its not even over yet.

[Gavin]

3 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

Dreadful first quarter. And its not even over yet.

The sad part is that the Hornets are doing this and Williams and Batum have not even gotten going yet. If the Pacers continue to play without effort and intensity up to halftime I'm putting my backups in and sending the message if you don't want to give effort on defense and play with intensity you wont play

[Gavin]

Leave the 2nd unit in. They want to play tonight

[2006Coltsbestever]

Nice 12-0 run to end the Qtr, only down 9 now. No excuse to give up 43 Points in a Qtr though!

[2006Coltsbestever]

53-38 Charlotte, SMH.

[Gavin]

I said Teague was not an overall good 3 point shooter. 1 good year does not make you a good 3 point shooter

[RockThatBlue]

I'm starting to hate playing the Hornets. They just seem to have our number.

[BigQandTheManiac]

Bird knows he made a mistake firing Vogel. Rather have a defensive minded HC over Offensive. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Pathetic Defense so far, give up 75 points in a Half. Down 75-55 at Half.

[RockThatBlue]

Hornets on pace for 150 points.

[RockThatBlue]

13 minutes ago, Luck12-to-Hilton13 said:

Bird knows he made a mistake firing Vogel. Rather have a defensive minded HC over Offensive. 

I kind of understood the move. We did underachieve a bit under Vogel. That said, I think we could've done better than McMillian.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

I kind of understood the move. We did underachieve a bit under Vogel. That said, I think we could've done better than McMillian.

I understand the move as well but wasn't really for hiring McMillan. It's still early in the season so we will see. Give it 30 games or so.

[oldunclemark]

82-62...3rd quarter..down by 20..

..we are just so scattered defensively

[Gavin]

Just now, Luck12-to-Hilton13 said:

Bird knows he made a mistake firing Vogel. Rather have a defensive minded HC over Offensive. 

Nate was on the staff to, Its not like he doesn't know how to coach defense. Defense is mainly about effort  and getting loose balls after that initial effort. We are 27th in the league in allowing offensive rebounds. 26th in the league in total rebounds per game

 

On average we have only contested 55.3% of the shots take against our defense as well. That's about effort http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/hustle/?sort=CONTESTED_SHOTS&dir=-1

 

We deflect 14.6 balls a game on average but only recover 4

 

They don't talk much on defense. All this is effort

[oldunclemark]

tough night for Teague so far..maybe he can lead a late run

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just a poor performance! Down 96-76 late in the 3rd Qtr. I thought maybe we turned the corner against the Bulls.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Spencer Hawes just hit a 3  Good grief!

[oldunclemark]

Not gonna happen, I guess....good to see CJ and Big Al doing well..

..but we're just a group of straneghsr.....as you said..this will take time

[RockThatBlue]

Real pathetic effort on defense. 

[oldunclemark]

43 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Not gonna happen, I guess....good to see CJ and Big Al doing well..

..but we're just a group of strangers.....as you said..this will take time

 

[RockThatBlue]

PG comment after the game.

 

"Theres no trust, theres no chemistry, theres no belief. We're lifeless"

 

7 games in and we are already hearing comments like that? Not good.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Steph Curry just hit 13 3's in one game, an NBA record! Warriors are now 5-2.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

PG comment after the game.

 

"Theres no trust, theres no chemistry, theres no belief. We're lifeless"

 

7 games in and we are already hearing comments like that? Not good.

Maybe Bird should Coach us?

[Gavin]

9 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Maybe Bird should Coach us?

The team lacks a real leader. They got guys that get points but no talkers on the court. Nobody to tell others where they are supposed to be on defense. PG isn't a true leader. If you an go back in Kobe Bryants games or watch his documentary you can see him telling Shaq and other players where they should be or where they want them to go. We don't have that guy to set everyone straight

[21isSuperman]

1 hour ago, Gavin said:

The team lacks a real leader. They got guys that get points but no talkers on the court. Nobody to tell others where they are supposed to be on defense. PG isn't a true leader. If you an go back in Kobe Bryants games or watch his documentary you can see him telling Shaq and other players where they should be or where they want them to go. We don't have that guy to set everyone straight

David West was our guy for that.  We haven't had anyone to replace him.  A younger Al Jefferson may have been able to fit that role, but I think he's accepted that he's no longer a starter in the NBA, so he isn't as vocal

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

David West was our guy for that.  We haven't had anyone to replace him.  A younger Al Jefferson may have been able to fit that role, but I think he's accepted that he's no longer a starter in the NBA, so he isn't as vocal

I agree David West was a leader and our 2nd best player only behind PG in our 2 ECFinal runs in 2013 and 2014. We haven't come close to replacing that.

[RockThatBlue]

16 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Steph Curry just hit 13 3's in one game, an NBA record! Warriors are now 5-2.

Think its safe to say he made up for going 0-10 lol

[BrentMc11]

75 points in the first half is all we could take.  After a nice relaxing vacation, who needed to watch that effort.

 

With comments coming out from your 'supposed leader,' it is very disturbing to me.

 

Also his production.  Six turnovers last week.  13 points does not cut it when you are a so-called all star.

[RockThatBlue]

3 minutes ago, BrentMc11 said:

75 points in the first half is all we could take.  After a nice relaxing vacation, who need that effort.

 

With comments coming out from your 'supposed leader,' it is very disturbing to me.

 

Also his production.  Six turnovers last week.  13 points does not cut it when you are a so-called all star.

Watching us play is so infuriating. We are too talented to be playing like such crap.