That last time out (Pagano Clock Management)... {[Merge]}

[threeflight]

1:15 left.  You DO NOT NEED to call timeout there.  Why let a Lions offense that has been killing a hurt Colts Defense all day have another shot?  Either win it at the end or not  But do not leave them any time to drive down the field for a winning FG?

 

He is just not a smart coach.  Never has been.  A Harbaugh or a Bellichick is always thinking AHEAD.  Pagano panics and never thinks at all.

 

Serious.  People can poo poo this all they want, but that single time out saved the lions 35 seconds, and the game.

 

For that alone he needs to be fired. 

[Dustin]

Yeah dude is an *.

[CoachLite]

1 minute ago, threeflight said:

1:15 left.  You DO NOT NEED to call timeout there.  Why let a Lions offense that has been killing a hurt Colts Defense all day have another shot?  Either win it at the end or not  But do not leave them any time to drive down the field for a winning FG?

 

He is just not a smart coach.  Never has been.  A Harbaugh or a Bellichick is always thinking AHEAD.  Pagano panics and never thinks at all.

 

Serious.  People can poo poo this all they want, but that single time out saved the lions 35 seconds, and the game.

 

For that alone he needs to be fired. 

 

He hasn't got a clue ...

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

He's a literal *. Fire him. If I have any fool quote me or post in this thread about "but but we only really lost by 2" you didn't even watch the game. The conpleteineptitude of our staff to prepare us is incredulous. I don't even care that we lost but I'm raging hard seeing the start we had. 

[ricker182]

Yet another fireable decision made by Pagano.   

How many is he allowed? 

[Bubbz]

Fire him

[John Waylon]

Not good clock management at all. 

[SC-Coltsfan]

And Luck didn't run any time off with 46 seconds left. Why not let the play clock run. 2 really stupid plays.

[ricker182]

Anybody want to tell me why we're kicking it out of the back of the endzone when we are kicking from the 50?

[Dustin]

That decision literally cost us the game. This man is completely in over his head. He shouldn't be in charge of clock management.

[NorthernBlue]

I'm not even that mad about losing. Just the way they lost. After Prater missed the PAT, this was Indy's for the taking. Don't understand how you can call that timeout there.

 

I like Pagano, but this seriously was an asinine decision.

 

Colts now 1-4 in opening day in the Luck era.

[JColts72]

Thanks jim for that 4 year contract.

[21isSuperman]

I might be in the minority here, but I don't hate taking the timeout.  The clock is running and I think it was 3rd down.  You take the time out to regroup and make sure everyone is on the same page.  If there is even one mistake, it's 4th down with even less time on the clock.  It just gives you some breathing room.  Not the worst decision of the day, in my opinion

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

All very good points.... but at the end of the day don't let them get 50 yds in 40 secs 

[JaseAiden23]

Our coaches blew this one!!!  When we had the ball on our last drive they should have told Luck not to hike until there was 20 seconds left on the touchdown to Jack.  Hell we called a timeout with 1:15 left for some reason instead of letting the clock run and then calling a timeout.  These coaches make too much money for this nonsense to happen.   Besides that I'm pleased with the way we played in the second half considering all of the injuries we have.

[Solon]

The defense allowed the Lions to go 60 yards downfield to win the game. Has nothing to do with Chuck's management.

[#12.]

The better, smarter head coach won.

[JMichael557]

Luck cannot "run"  off time he has to score to win the game. The coach however does not have to call a timeout to save Detroit the game. The good news is that if we can get a new coach next year and some more defensive players we can be better good in the future but not with the current staff.

[coltsorioles]

Why call a timeout with a minute to go. No reason to. You want to score with as little as time as possible.  And why kick it through the engine from the 50. Just kick it high to the end zone. You would waste about 7 seconds and start them 5 to 10 yards deeper. Terrible coaching ,terrible defense. 

[threeflight]

I am simply amazed that this guy is a head coach.  Nice guy.  Terrible football coach.

 

When I, you, and most everyone in the football world knows NOT TO let the Lions have the ball again, and yet you call a time out with 1:15 left?  Not 45 seconds.  Not 30 seconds.  Not 15 seconds.   Not 1 second.

 

75 seconds?     It was such an easy call to make and yet he blew it.

 

FIRE HIM.  NOW.    

[our_dbs_rock]

In that situation you would expect the opponent to be calling timeout, but nope the Colts will do it for you!

[Dustin]

1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said:

I might be in the minority here, but I don't hate taking the timeout.  The clock is running and I think it was 3rd down.  You take the time out to regroup and make sure everyone is on the same page.  If there is even one mistake, it's 4th down with even less time on the clock.  It just gives you some breathing room.  Not the worst decision of the day, in my opinion

 

It was 2nd down.

[21isSuperman]

1 minute ago, Dustin said:

That decision literally cost us the game. This man is completely in over his head. He shouldn't be in charge of clock management.

No, it did not.  A horrible start to the first half, tons of injuries, and bad execution.  That one timeout did not cost us the game today.  The Lions had 3 timeouts of their own, so they could have controlled the clock to their liking even if we didn't call the timeout

[bluebombers87]

1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said:

I might be in the minority here, but I don't hate taking the timeout.  The clock is running and I think it was 3rd down.  You take the time out to regroup and make sure everyone is on the same page.  If there is even one mistake, it's 4th down with even less time on the clock.  It just gives you some breathing room.  Not the worst decision of the day, in my opinion

Not in the minority. You take the timeout, lay out the strategy for when you get the first down in case you are in bounds. Clearly a lot of armchair coaches with very little football experience.

[SilentHill]

That timeout was malarkey.

 

The coverage on Detroit's final drive was even worse.

 

The defense in the 1st quarter was even worse

 

I'm not sure how much worse it can get.

[threeflight]

2 minutes ago, SC-Coltsfan said:

And Luck didn't run any time off with 46 seconds left. Why not let the play clock run. 2 really stupid plays.

Yep this too.  I said it in the game thread.  

 

Luck could have run off 30 seconds after the review..  Instead he hikes the ball after 2 seconds run off the clock.

 

You seriously have to wonder who these guys are, and who is coaching them?  I mean it makes NO SENSE.

 

Manniing would have run off the clock.

[austriancolt]

strange decision but what really cost us the game was another slow start. And I just don't get why they can't fix that

[corgi]

I can't wait until all of you guys are hired as the next coaching staff. 16-0 until Elvis rises from the dead and we all win the lottery! 

[Camio]

Pagano and Caldwell, 2 HCs the Colts have had who dont have a single clue how clock management works. This reminded me of the TO vs the Jets in the playoffs several years ago.

[Dustin]

2 minutes ago, Solon said:

The defense allowed the Lions to go 60 yards downfield to win the game. Has nothing to do with Chuck's management.

 

They wouldn't have been able to if there wasn't any time on the clock which would have been the case has we had a competent HC.

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, our_dbs_rock said:

In that situation you would expect the opponent to be calling timeout, but nope the Colts will do it for you!

Why would the opponent call a timeout when they have a 6 point lead

[21isSuperman]

Just now, Dustin said:

 

It was 2nd down.

Even with that, I don't hate the call.  Get everyone on the same page because you're near the goal line and you don't have much to work with.  Reiterate to the receivers to get out of bounds if they catch it, emphasize to Luck to either make a safe throw or throw it out of bounds and not risk it.  I don't hate the decision to take a  time out in that situation

[threeflight]

3 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

I might be in the minority here, but I don't hate taking the timeout.  The clock is running and I think it was 3rd down.  You take the time out to regroup and make sure everyone is on the same page.  If there is even one mistake, it's 4th down with even less time on the clock.  It just gives you some breathing room.  Not the worst decision of the day, in my opinion

If you want to do that, you run down the clock 30 seconds first THEN take the time out.

[hawkeyes]

Guess we are looking at a 6-10 season - we made Stafford look like a HOF QB!

[VaAllDay757]

Chuck has to do better smh he made a dumb decision

[Mr.Debonair]

4 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

I might be in the minority here, but I don't hate taking the timeout.  The clock is running and I think it was 3rd down.  You take the time out to regroup and make sure everyone is on the same page.  If there is even one mistake, it's 4th down with even less time on the clock.  It just gives you some breathing room.  Not the worst decision of the day, in my opinion

Was the timeout questionable sure but the defense still let them go from the 25 yard line, all the way down the field with ease. This is on them 

[threeflight]

3 minutes ago, Solon said:

The defense allowed the Lions to go 60 yards downfield to win the game. Has nothing to do with Chuck's management.

The point is I, you, the entire world knew the D would let them drive 60 yards down the field. 

 

You simply do not give the Lions the opportunity to do so.  That is smart, WINNING football.

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, Camio said:

Pagano and Caldwell, 2 HCs the Colts have had who dont have a single clue how clock management works. This reminded me of the TO vs the Jets in the playoffs several years ago.

Literally nothing comparable in those two situations.   The rage should be against the defense.   I know we're depleted in the secondary,   But damn

[our_dbs_rock]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

Why would the opponent call a timeout when they have a 6 point lead

 

Um, the colts are inside the 10 about to score and possibly go up by 1 with little time left if they would have manage the clock.

[Jules]

Jim Caldwell outcoached Pagano.  

 

And we hated Caldwell back in the day.