D'Joun Smith waived

[LJpalmbeacher2]

14 minutes ago, buccolts said:

 

You probably hinted because you never can be sure, just like the rest of us. 

We were simply hopeful while you weren't.

 

Tevin Coleman? Kinda early to be crowing about him, isn't it?

 

Actually I did more than "kinda hinted", I was being nice and not looking to rub anyone's face in it who expected a lot more than I did.

As far as Coleman, it sure looks like he will have a better career than Smith and would have helped us more than him.

[VaAllDay757]

Really? Smh just ridiculous 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

1 hour ago, 21isSuperman said:

This guy can't get healthy.  Bummer because he has a lot of talent and potential.

 

That's what I keep hearing, but I honestly wouldn't know.

[COLTS449]

Well. PJ Williams hasn't played a game in the NFL, but I think he would have been the better choice over Smith. Also could have had Danielle Hunter, David Johnson, Jordan Hicks, or Lorenzo Mauldin. Hicks sure would have been nice at ILB for the next how ever many years.

[buccolts]

46 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

 

Actually I did more than "kinda hinted", I was being nice and not looking to rub anyone's face in it who expected a lot more than I did.

As far as Coleman, it sure looks like he will have a better career than Smith and would have helped us more than him.

 

Coleman: To date, ever so slightly.

And you can pretty much say that about everyone drafted after Smith, that's still on anyone's roster, at any level.

So, not saying a lot.

[richard pallo]

I have to say if you can't stay healthy there is no point in keeping him.  You can only be patient for so long.  It was time to move on.  I would be surprised if Thornton doesn't  meet a similar fate. 

[Pacergeek]

Yet another busted Grigson draft pick lol.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

1 hour ago, TDewar1987 said:

They are already calling for Grigson's head - again - on the Colts facebook post about this lol

 

 

 

That is funny no matter what Grigson does there are people that complain if the player can help your team he stays especially on a team that has issues in the secondary . If he had sat thru the national anthem those same people would have claimed oppression as a reason for letting him go while not acknowledging that not only could he not stay healthy but his attitude may not have helped him stay on the roster .

 

Show up healthy & do your job & you will impress the coaches obviously he was unable to do just that .

 

See ya would'nt want to be ya .. 

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

8 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Yet another busted Grigson draft pick lol.

 

Its a crap shoot dude .

[crazycolt1]

2 hours ago, IinD said:

Sadly another busted pick. Just couldn't stay on the field to prove his worth.

 

This secondary is trending towards bad. Simply because they'll be forced to use scrubs as guys start to get injured during the season.

So a player who gets injured is a busted pick?  He had no history of injuries before he was drafted so it's Grigson's fault?  Sounds just like something you would say.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

2 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

This guy can't get healthy.  Bummer because he has a lot of talent and potential.

 

The same was said about RG3 when he went to the Redskins .

[crazycolt1]

12 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Yet another busted Grigson draft pick lol.

You want to blame Grigson for a players injuries?  You will pick any excuse to get your digs in at Grigson that you make yourself look silly.

[crazycolt1]

26 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

Well. PJ Williams hasn't played a game in the NFL, but I think he would have been the better choice over Smith. Also could have had Danielle Hunter, David Johnson, Jordan Hicks, or Lorenzo Mauldin. Hicks sure would have been nice at ILB for the next how ever many years.

Yep. hindsight is a very good tool to use after the fact.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, ÅÐØNϧ 1 said:

 

Its a crap shoot dude .

Exactly, even BB and Polian haven't hit on every pick.  Honestly if you have seven picks a year and three turn into starters one day another one becomes a good contributior on your team your doing pretty darn good no matter what the other three do.

 

Last years class has already produced four starters, Dorrsett, Anderson, Parry, and Good and Geathers is probably going to join them. If you get five starters out of a draft you can live with Smith, Robinson, and Herrera not working out.

[csmopar]

16 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I have to say if you can't stay healthy there is no point in keeping him.  You can only be patient for so long.  It was time to move on.  I would be surprised if Thornton doesn't  meet a similar fate. 

Or Art Jones....

[csmopar]

18 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Yet another busted Grigson draft pick lol.

How many of Larry Birds draft picks and FA signings have done worth a crap for the Pacers over his tenure?

 

Better yet how many division or higher championships has Bird's pacers won (during his gm/president days )?

 

 

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Exactly, even BB and Polian haven't hit on every pick.  Honestly if you have seven picks a year and three turn into starters one day another one becomes a good contributior on your team your doing pretty darn good no matter what the other three do.

 

Last years class has already produced four starters, Dorrsett, Anderson, Parry, and Good and Geathers is probably going to join them. If you get five starters out of a draft you can live with Smith, Robinson, and Herrera not working out.

True, but that don't fit into the narrative that some think they are smarter and could do a better job sitting behing their PC and whine.

[GoColts8818]

17 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I have to say if you can't stay healthy there is no point in keeping him.  You can only be patient for so long.  It was time to move on.  I would be surprised if Thornton doesn't  meet a similar fate. 

Ironically injuries to Mewhort and Haeg might be what saves Thornton's job.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

33 minutes ago, buccolts said:

 

Coleman: To date, ever so slightly.

And you can pretty much say that about everyone drafted after Smith, that's still on anyone's roster, at any level.

So, not saying a lot.

Lol, Smith was like the 65th overall pick and your saying no player drafted after that has done much?

Well then we shouldn't be talking about Smith, we should be talking about what a awful draft class that was.

[Patagonia Chris]

He had a lot in common with many other Grigson draft picks, in that I routinely forget they're on the team.

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, Pagano's Realtor said:

He had a lot in common with many other Grigson draft picks, in that I routinely forget they're on the team.

You can say that about pretty much every GM. Find a GM who's had every draft pick they've ever had turn into an all star.

 

Im not a Grigson fan but this is getting ridiculous 

[Dustin]

B R A V O

 

G R I G S O N 

[Bluefire4]

Nobody's perfect. Everything isn't Grigson's fault. Lighten up.

[krunk]

Well there's still guys out there like Brandon Boykin, Kwaun Williams amongst others.

[Jdubu]

3 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:

This is a bit of a head scratcher

I am not surprised based on where this team needs to be. I half wondered if we would cut a few always injured guys with that "talent potential" in order to keep some of these new talent guys and see where we land. Harrison is another, always on the injured list but flashes talent at times too. Cut down will be interesting. 

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

 

Actually I did more than "kinda hinted", I was being nice and not looking to rub anyone's face in it who expected a lot more than I did.

As far as Coleman, it sure looks like he will have a better career than Smith and would have helped us more than him.

Everyone's hind sight is always 100%.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Pathetic, IMO. Pathetic on Smith's part 

[Larry Horseman]

So Grigs and Pags missed on a 3rd rounder. Not shocking or really damning. Kudos to them for moving on and not being bullish about trying to make him work. That's much more positive than missing on a 3rd is negative. 

[BOTT]

1 hour ago, ÅÐØNϧ 1 said:

 

Its a crap shoot dude .

Then Grigson sucks at craps

[BOTT]

1 hour ago, csmopar said:

How many of Larry Birds draft picks and FA signings have done worth a crap for the Pacers over his tenure?

 

Better yet how many division or higher championships has Bird's pacers won (during his gm/president days )?

 

 

 

You have to get lucky with the ping pong balls in the right year in basketball

[IinD]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

So a player who gets injured is a busted pick?  He had no history of injuries before he was drafted so it's Grigson's fault?  Sounds just like something you would say.

Busted pick....pick that didn't work out...Not sure where you got all the extra filler from. 

[Imrryr]

What about will hill after he's off suspension if we are still needing dB help

[dw49]

3 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

 

 

That's interesting.  I wonder what he did.  I don't recall any reports of him showing up to meetings or practice late.

 

Looks like it's a combination of at least 2 things .. injuries and attitude. I think it's also performance related also . If they thought he was as talented as they did when they drafted him , I would think they would try to find another option in freeing up a roster spot. But what do I really know ?

[TheRustonRifle#7]

3 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

Someone retweeted him on Twitter saying that if the right team drafted him with the right coaches he would go down as the greatest corner to ever play the game so I can easily see the cocky part.

C'est la vie

[Indyfan4life]

I guess some of you expect every draft pick to be a day one starter with an All-pro career. Some guys pan out, some don't. We aren't the only team with picks that haven't worked out. Doesn't matter what round. How many teams have drafted guys in the 1st round who never contributed to the team due to injury or being terrible, while someone picked in the 3rs or lower made it and did well? Stop jumping on the "Grigson sucks, he needs to be fired" wagon. 

[GoColts8818]

1 hour ago, csmopar said:

How many of Larry Birds draft picks and FA signings have done worth a crap for the Pacers over his tenure?

 

Better yet how many division or higher championships has Bird's pacers won (during his gm/president days )?

 

 

Well that Paul George pick is working out and unlike Andrew Luck that wasn't a clear thing.  Still I get your bigger point.  No GM is perfect.  Also worth mentioning Bird teams have been to the conference finals three times and won a handful of divison titles so it's not like he's stunk up the joint as the GM of the Pacers.  His teams have had more success than Grigson but that's largely because Larry has pretty much been running the Pacers since 2003 while Grgson has only been with the Colts since 2012.

[BOTT]

4 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

I guess some of you expect every draft pick to be a day one starter with an All-pro career. Some guys pan out, some don't. We aren't the only team with picks that haven't worked out. Doesn't matter what round. How many teams have drafted guys in the 1st round who never contributed to the team due to injury or being terrible, while someone picked in the 3rs or lower made it and did well? Stop jumping on the "Grigson sucks, he needs to be fired" wagon. 

I'm right with you man.  People are picking on poor Ryan just like they picked on TRich and Bjoern.  Not fair....not fair at all.

[TheRustonRifle#7]

It's a shame....

 

 

[Hoosiernsavga]

Okay people this is what irritates me to no end! So we have a head coach who is supposedly a cb specialist and a GM who is an OL specialist. And those are our weakest two positions! 

[BlueShoe]

4 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Reminds me a lot of Donald Strickland, could have been a good scrappy player, just injury prone.

 

That was completely our fault, because we kept playing him at safety. We couldn't keep anyone healthy at safety, because they were often left alone to tackle RB's. Our front seven would fail us way too much. Strickland was a legit corner. I don't blame Dungy for much, but he ruined Donald Strickland's career.