indy_nick Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Wow I am stoked that we have signed 3 defensive players in free agency thus far! Here's to hoping we can sign some secondary players. If we can do that, I feel that we will be the most complete team we have had in a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@son Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Does anyone really think the Colts would sign Tommie Harris without giving him some sort of physical? If he was simply not in condition to play or his knees were completely busted then they wouldn't have signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgww Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Does anyone really think the Colts would sign Tommie Harris without giving him some sort of physical? If he was simply not in condition to play or his knees were completely busted then they wouldn't have signed him.Exactly...they wouldn't have even sniffed him if they didn't think he had something left. I'd just love to see a breakout year from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I like the signing!! He didn't play alot last year & take a filer on a guy, & see what he's got in the tank. Because he didn't play alot last year He may be better physically & I know he's stay in Chicago didn't end well as in the dog house maybe he's got something to prove. If reasonable healthy a hungry Harris could turn out to be a heck of a signing :FBrolleyes: Got to love the effort by the front office though. I think they are really trying to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld1 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Just like the other two recent FA signings, I expect him to be quality depth at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@son Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I just love all the "let's sign Tommie Harris" threads that were on here just a few weeks ago....and now that we have him, a lot of forum folks are questioning the signing. I don't get it! You all wanted FAs this year, and the Colts actually went out and did that, and now people are whining. Granted they are not the "big names" like other teams, but given the Colts cap situation you can't expect to sign big name FAs....First, the new salary cap hurts that even with Manning's lower cap contract. Second, the Colts don't normally go out and sign big name FAs. Harris, Sims, and to a lesser degree Anderson...those are major moves for a team that usually doesn't do anything in free agency. Let's see how the preseason plays out.Probably the best post in this thread. Considering the Colt's history in free agency, Sims, Anderson and Harris ARE big names and big time signings. Here's what it boils down to....we've let some guys go who wanted more money than they were probably worth. Then we picked up some quality guys at a bargain to fill the empty spots. We have now arguably better depth at DL than we've had in the past 5 or 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typhoon2285 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 idk if im late but i saw it herehttp://www.nfl.com/freeagency?module=HP11_content_stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky6times Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 late is not even the word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Probably the best post in this thread. Considering the Colt's history in free agency, Sims, Anderson and Harris ARE big names and big time signings. Here's what it boils down to....we've let some guys go who wanted more money than they were probably worth. Then we picked up some quality guys at a bargain to fill the empty spots. We have now arguably better depth at DL than we've had in the past 5 or 6 years. I love how we aspire to be mediocre at best. Our FO continues to play it safe and we all (well, not all) sing Hallelujah.It's about time we showed some balls and tried something a little less conservative.But I should be used to it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRedZone Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 it should tell you something by the fact that i can't find it reported on the main sections of any web-site right now. espn does not have it even if you click just "NFL". Must be an afterthought.It was hard to find that Joe Addai was resigned besides on here.Doesn't mean Joe is a down player.Before we get down on it, lets wait and see what he does. Who knows he might workout, or he might not. At least the team is trying to make some improvements, and that is good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRedZone Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I love how we aspire to be mediocre at best. Our FO continues to play it safe and we all (well, not all) sing Hallelujah.It's about time we showed some balls and tried something a little less conservative.But I should be used to it by now.if mediocre is winning the division 7 out of 9 years and making the playoffs almost automatic then i'll take mediocre. I know we want more championships, but so do every fan base in the nfl.Btw, you can't win it unless you are in the playoffs, and we seem to be there quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@son Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I love how we aspire to be mediocre at best. Our FO continues to play it safe and we all (well, not all) sing Hallelujah.It's about time we showed some balls and tried something a little less conservative.But I should be used to it by now.Who's aspiring to be mediocre? Point is that there is only so much they can do due to salary cap limitations. The moves they've made so far are more than they've done in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYColt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Here's a video showing every snap Tommie Harris was involved in, in a Week 16 game against the Vikings in 2009 ...couldn't find anything more recent unfortunately I think it's safe to say if this is the Tommie Harris we are getting (even if he's only 70% of what he was in 2006) then we're going to have a great complimentary, rotational playerNotice him living in the backfield quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 if mediocre is winning the division 7 out of 9 years and making the playoffs almost automatic then i'll take mediocre. I know we want more championships, but so do every fan base in the nfl.Btw, you can't win it unless you are in the playoffs, and we seem to be there quite a bit.You misunderstood. Check Jason's response. He got it. Your last sentence was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freenyfan102 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I like the fact he commands a double teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Who's aspiring to be mediocre? Point is that there is only so much they can do due to salary cap limitations. The moves they've made so far are more than they've done in the past.If pursuing iffy backups at best isn't mediocre, then I can't do fractions. And 5 times out of 3 I'm correct.We don't have cap space is just an excuse. Make some. Stop throwing it away on bungled contracts. Take some risks before Peyton hangs them up. And if we are honest, we got VERY lucky in our SB campaign. Our D was really pathetic, but found some magic just in time. And it had nothing to do with Bill Polian.Manning's legacy is in danger of being tainted by some pretty average Front Office management.But maybe this season we'll get lucky again on D, and go all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 what a bull rusher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYColt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 He looks great in that video - what happened to him between 2009-2010 is what I don't understandI really hope it was only an attitude thing and not some debilitating issue with his knees ..although it doesn't speak well on him that Rod Marinelli, one of the best D-line coaches gave up on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordofmouth Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Semantics my friend. You knew exactly what I meant. I have no malice towards Bill whatsoever. Just his poor management decisions. If he makes a good move, I'll applaud. You are no different if a player stinks it up during a game. Please get off your high horse and stop hugging our front office so tightly.Oh Semantics, Translation: "what I said didn't make any sense but that's OK don't hole me to it." If you have no malice towards bill why are 75% - at least- of your posts bashing him. Your malice is unmistakable. I am no different if a player stinks it up during a game? Sense you can't give me any examples of that I won't ask you to. But when they do I don't try to cover for them I call it like I see it. "High Horse"? "Hugging the front office" ? OK, nice semantics. Yes I am a fan of Polian and KNOW that he has done a great job sense he has been here. Yes he has made mistakes - most of which he has admitted to - and like everty other human being on the planet, could have done better, but having lived through many years of Colts ineptness I can appreciate what he has done for this franchise. If giving him credit is hugging then so be it. But don't try to make this into an equivilance thing because it is not even close. If that was the case every other post of mine would read: "Polian does it again!! only a genius would have signed ........ but as you can see that is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan24 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 either tommie will get one on one here or dwight and mathis will get one on one lol let the take their pick with that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 He looks great in that video - what happened to him between 2009-2010 is what I don't understandI really hope it was only an attitude thing and not some debilitating issue with his knees ..although it doesn't speak well on him that Rod Marinelli, one of the best D-line coaches gave up on himLike I said in another thread... I think he got frustrated with the Bears, and they got frustrated with him. I think he and Lovie Smith had some kind of major falling out behind the scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_nick Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 And exactly how would you suggest we magically "make some" cap space? We already got rid of Diem's and Hayden's over-paid contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky6times Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 he is an absolute bruiser!!this is what weve all been talking abouti cringe a lil when i just look @ the guy..M.E.A.N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_nick Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I don't care how many sacks he gets. That's just icing on the cake. As long as he's help stuffing the run I'm completely happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky6times Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 im gonna back 2 back post it..really excited bout this pickup!!u know hes good when favre cant even shovel pass it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCrew Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Like I said in another thread... I think he got frustrated with the Bears, and they got frustrated with him. I think he and Lovie Smith had some kind of major falling out behind the scenes...Yeah, like how they sat him out even though he wasn't injured for that one game. Apparently he was furious over it. I can't remember the full story behind it, but it was something along the lines of he and Lovie having a dispute, like you were saying.I'll have to check around to see if I can find that story I'm thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yeah I dont need to see even 1 sack out of the guy. Would be nice, but dont even need to see one. Just push the other teams Oline around alittle so the bookends dont get as much attention on them. Just disrupt the other teams running game and get them out of the gaps to run in. I am excited about this dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yeah, like how they sat him out even though he wasn't injured for that one game. Apparently he was furious over it. I can't remember the full story behind it, but it was something along the lines of he and Lovie having a dispute, like you were saying.I'll have to check around to see if I can find that story I'm thinking of.Yeah, that was week 3 MNF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Notice how stinking fast he gets off the line. Geez, what a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCrew Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yeah, that was week 3 MNF...Hmm, well guess I don't have to look now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelema13 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yessir. Harris is a beast. We have 3 D-line players that command a double team now, opposing teams O-line can take their pick. I smell many sacks comin'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 And exactly how would you suggest we magically "make some" cap space? We already got rid of Diem's and Hayden's over-paid contracts.Ask the Patriots, they always find plenty. And they too are hamstrung by a mega QB salary.Or re-tool our Offense with scrubs, and go big on D. Peyton has proven he can score well enough with anybody, and almost win multiple SB's with bottom end Defenses. A top five D (probably top ten) and the Brady - Manning debate is over.Easier said than done, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_nick Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 So re-tool our Offense with scrubs...you want to get rid of Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and replace them with scrubs.....No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Oh Semantics, Translation: "what I said didn't make any sense but that's OK don't hole me to it." If you have no malice towards bill why are 75% - at least- of your posts bashing him. Your malice is unmistakable. I am no different if a player stinks it up during a game? Sense you can't give me any examples of that I won't ask you to. But when they do I don't try to cover for them I call it like I see it. "High Horse"? "Hugging the front office" ? OK, nice semantics. Yes I am a fan of Polian and KNOW that he has done a great job sense he has been here. Yes he has made mistakes - most of which he has admitted to - and like everty other human being on the planet, could have done better, but having lived through many years of Colts ineptness I can appreciate what he has done for this franchise. If giving him credit is hugging then so be it. But don't try to make this into an equivilance thing because it is not even close. If that was the case every other post of mine would read: "Polian does it again!! only a genius would have signed ........ but as you can see that is not the case.Rather intense mister, don't you think? It's a blog site, and I'm not trying to negotiate a ransom for your kidnapped son.Without Manning we are a 3-13 team. You all say it, I say it. To give so much credit for one pick (which was not really that hard) is kinda confusing for me. But I don't profess to be clever, so I'm sorry if I've over simplified.And if your are still proud of the Week 17 decision, then I admire your loyalty.Although we disagree, I go in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordofmouth Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Rather intense mister, don't you think? It's a blog site, and I'm not trying to negotiate a ransom for your kidnapped son.Without Manning we are a 3-13 team. You all say it, I say it. To give so much credit for one pick (which was not really that hard) is kinda confusing for me. But I don't profess to be clever, so I'm sorry if I've over simplified.And if your are still proud of the Week 17 decision, then I admire your loyalty.Although we disagree, I go in peace.You are putting a lot of words into my mouth, but I'll echo echo your last line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 So re-tool our Offense with scrubs...you want to get rid of Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and replace them with scrubs.....No thank you.Absolutely. We virtually got to the AFCCG without Dallas and Collie and Wayne disappears when it counts, whilst our D was getting gashed for fun. Think what we'd do with 2 run stuffing DT's? Manning would have so many more drives to make Garcon, Tamme, White and Collie invincibl. Trade Addai as well, and make do with Brown, Carter, Hart, James etc. A decent O-line is all we need, right? And I believe we are putting one of those together at last.Sticking to the same old tired philosophy is not bringing the rewards a superstar QB deserves.But we haven't got the guts to go for it. Play it safe, keep my job.It's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 You are putting a lot of words into my mouth, but I'll echo echo your last line.Go well sir, that's me done for tonight. Big day of golf tomorrow, at The Grove, which was a WGC venue a few years back! Need some decent shut-eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbwubb Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 LOVE IT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordofmouth Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Go well sir, that's me done for tonight. Big day of golf tomorrow, at The Grove, which was a WGC venue a few years back! Need some decent shut-eye.I'm jealous! Good luck on the links! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherman Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 retooling the offense will probably take a couple of years.......those scrubs are able to play like that because of the guys who are currently on this team........do you think collie is as good if you take away dallas and reggie?........and mannings legacy is fine.........there is a ton of promise and talent on this team.....guys who are still developing...why be so negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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