Myles Jack has chondral defect in his knee

[Superman]

Basically means he has some measure of cartilage damage, which isn't surprising given the meniscus injury. It is different from the meniscus, which is fibrocartilagr, but neither of them grow back or repair themselves. He will most likely need microfracture surgery at some point. 

 

I'm on mobile so no link right now, but this is from Alber Breer.

[CR91]

21 minutes ago, Superman said:

Basically means he has some measure of cartilage damage, which isn't surprising given the meniscus injury. It is different from the meniscus, which is fibrocartilagr, but neither of them grow back or repair themselves. He will most likely need microfracture surgery at some point. 

 

I'm on mobile so no link right now, but this is from Alber Breer.

 

here you go 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/24/bad-knee-could-cause-myles-jack-to-drop-out-of-the-top-10/

[stitches]

Would you pick him if he slips to 18?

[CR91]

Just now, stitches said:

Would you pick him if he slips to 18?

 

in a heartbeat, but I doubt he falls that far. out of the top ten? no doubt. 

[crestmount]

Pass--hard enough to get it right with a healthy guy, let alone one with a bad knee

[Boiler_Colt]

If he falls to 18 it likely means he has full blown leprosy.

[Gavin]

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[Track Guy]

20 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

If he falls to 18 it likely means he has full blown leprosy.

 

This is the problem. If a guy who is in the discussion of #1 talent in the draft gets passed over by 17 teams, it probably means we're looking at a pretty serious issue.

[Superman]

47 minutes ago, Track Guy said:

 

This is the problem. If a guy who is in the discussion of #1 talent in the draft gets passed over by 17 teams, it probably means we're looking at a pretty serious issue.

 

That's part of it. The other part is that there are other good prospects who don't have issues, and so come with less risk. If you have Ramsey graded like Jack, you take Ramsey because there's less risk. Doesn't mean you take Darron Lee. At some point, the reward can outweigh the risk. Where that point is for each team will be interesting to see.

[tvturner]

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[MTC]

2 hours ago, stitches said:

Would you pick him if he slips to 18?

 

Yes.

[DougDew]

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[OffensivelyPC]

Apparently, according to Dr. Andrews, Jack won't need microfracture surgery.  I know this is days old, but I didn't see it anywhere else and I didn't really follow the draft thread the first 2 nights.  Not really sure if that means, "won't need it soon" or "wont' need it ever" but it's been weird from the get-go.  +1 for the GIF re-tweet:

 

 

 

[Dustin]

3 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Apparently, according to Dr. Andrews, Jack won't need microfracture surgery.  I know this is days old, but I didn't see it anywhere else and I didn't really follow the draft thread the first 2 nights.  Not really sure if that means, "won't need it soon" or "wont' need it ever" but it's been weird from the get-go.  +1 for the GIF re-tweet:

 

 

 

 

The worry is that he'll need microfracture surgery down the road. Dr. Andrew's is just saying he doesn;t need it at this point in time. 

[OffensivelyPC]

Just now, Dustin said:

 

The worry is that he'll need microfracture surgery down the road. Dr. Andrew's is just saying he doesn;t need it at this point in time. 

Bummer.  I'd still have liked him in the 2nd.  

[ColtsBlueFL]

On 5/5/2016 at 3:23 PM, OffensivelyPC said:

Bummer.  I'd still have liked him in the 2nd.  

 

Some teams are willing to have Jack only for a rookie contact and him then being used up. Others want a 10 year pro-bowler, but many team medical doctors are (largely) saying that is just not likely.  Somewhere from 3-6 years depending upon hits to the knee and other items before the OCD in his knee creates issues that just aren't easily corrected.

I've reported this information before, that Myles Jack has an osteochondral defect ( Osteochondritis dissecans - OCD ) which involves a lack of blood to the underlying bone, thus putting the overlying cartilage at risk. This condition is something  he has had since birth, and none of this directly related to the meniscus issue that was already surgically repaired.  Jack's seemingly healthy now, but how long his knee will hold up is the question on teams minds. The issue is this if/when piece breaks off. If/When it does, here is no simple surgical fix as there is a divot left in the bone surface. Levels of problems exist depending on the size and location of the OCD lesion.

Dr. Chao has also stated 're-growing articular cartilage is the ‘holy grail” of orthopedics.' Every team physician has examined Jack individually and will form their own opinions, but there's  no question an OCD lesion will worry a team tgo some degree. Some doctors feel it will be sooner rather than later, and others may feel microfracture treatment (at some point) is [rpbabvly more likely than not.  Then you have the optimists who Push it all in the center and call.  Time will tell.

[OffensivelyPC]

13 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

Some teams are willing to have Jack only for a rookie contact and him then being used up. Others want a 10 year pro-bowler, but many team medical doctors are (largely) saying that is not likely.  Somewhere from 3-6 years depending upon hits to the knee and other items before the OCD in his knee creates issues that just aren't easily corrected.

I've reported this information before, that Myles Jack has an osteochondral defect ( Osteochondritis dissecans - OCD ) which involves a lack of blood to the underlying bone, thus putting the overlying cartilage at risk. This condition is something  he has had since birth, and none of this directly related to the meniscus issue that was already surgically repaired.  Jack's seemingly healthy now, but how long his knee will hold up is the question on teams minds. The issue is this if/when piece breaks off. If/When it does, here is no simple surgical fix as there is a divot left in the bone surface. Levels of problems exist depending on the size and location of the OCD lesion.

Dr. Chao has also stated 're-growing articular cartilage is the ‘holy grail” of orthopedics.' Every team physician has examined Jack individually and will form their own opinions, but there's  no question an OCD lesion will worry a team tgo some degree. Some doctors feel it will be sooner rather than later, and others may feel microfracture treatment is more likely than not.  Then you have the optimists who Push it all in the center and call.  Time will tell.

Im generally a guy that just understands medical prognosis terribly, but you break it down in a pretty concise and easily understandable way. Thanks!

 

PS you sound like a doctor or nurse. Do you work in the field?

[LJpalmbeacher2]

13 hours ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Im generally a guy that just understands medical prognosis terribly, but you break it down in a pretty concise and easily understandable way. Thanks!

 

PS you sound like a doctor or nurse. Do you work in the field?

NO but he stayed at a Holiday Inn the other night.

[ColtsBlueFL]

16 hours ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Im generally a guy that just understands medical prognosis terribly, but you break it down in a pretty concise and easily understandable way. Thanks!

 

PS you sound like a doctor or nurse. Do you work in the field?

 

Thanks. I'm neither doctor or nurse, yet work intimately beside them weekly, all around the country,  Mainly in the SouthEastern U.S.) as a corporate representative in the Interventional X-Ray and Image Guided Therapy fields.  I have mechanical engineering training from Purdue, and a Radiologic technology background. Been involved heavily in medical field since 1979...

[ColtsBlueFL]

3 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

NO but he stayed at a Holiday Inn the other night.

 

You just do not realize how correct you are in your response... in every respect!  Well done!!

[ColtsBlueFL]

I must point out, Myles Jack is likely in the best shape of his life considering the Rehab from his meniscus.  He should be a terror as long as the knee doesn't go AWOL on him...