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John Torine, Strength And Conditioning Coach Fired


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Weird....I just got fired by Grigson and I don't even work for the Colts in any capacity.

haha I'm begining to wonder why they just don't say "we fired all the coaches". It's nice that Grigson wants to talk to each of them individually, but I suspect that they've noticed the trend by now. Considering how many coaches there are, this could go on for days.

Perhaps some of them are hiding.

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haha I'm begining to wonder why they just don't say "we fired all the coaches". It's nice that Grigson wants to talk to each of them individually, but I suspect that they've noticed the trend by now. Considering how many coaches there are, this could go on for days.

Perhaps some of them are hiding.

I'll bet the remaining staff are all checking caller ID before picking up.

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The Colts are a multi, multi million dollar business whose very success depends on the health of its players. You don't think they look at everything possible to keep their players on the field? Strength & weight training, conditioning, cardio, flexibility, nutrition, and post injury treatment are all things they examine all the time to see what they are doing and what can be done better. The notion that the injuries are the result of poor work by someone in the Colts organization does not pass the sniff test. They play a physical game in which big men smash into each other. Injuries happen.

Our players don't get injured more often than on other teams. Sure, we were there with the Packers last year for players on IR. But that was proof that other teams had the same issues. Was it the strength and conditioning coach in Green Bay? San Diego had more injuries than us at the time they played against us in the regular season last year. Was that their S&C?

When Brady went down in 08, or when the Patriots lost 9 defenders in the first 3 games this year, plus their stud TE's, was that because they have poor S&C?

How about Charles and Berry from Kansas City? Those guys are probably the best players on each side of the ball for them, but they went out due to injury. Must be an organizational thing...

There is a ton of dumb-luck involved. If an offensive linemen trips on a pile of legs, arms, etc., and falls forward, he can't see what's above him. If a defensive lineman is locked in battle with an offensive lineman, he can't see what's below him. If the helmet of the falling player smashes into the knee of the defensive player as a result, that's just bad luck. This scenario isn't unlikely either. It happens on a weekly basis. Some guys suffer horrific injuries as a result, while others are fortunate and only take a glancing blow. It has nothing to do with strength and conditioning; those types of injuries are going to put someone down.

All of this talk about strength and conditioning is nonsensical, and just another excuse for people to scream about the part of the game they know nothing about (ie: coaching and front office). Every team has LOADS of injuries, but we are only familiar with the guys on our own team. I would bet every team forum is full of people crying about how unlucky they are.

P.S. I noticed that absolutely no one ever responds to the fact that Castonzo, Ijalana, and Nevis are not small, fast guys. They are big, powerful, athletic, and durable (per their college resumes). Yet all of them have been injured this year.

P.P.S. @GoGoColts: No area of the field has seen more shuffling as a result of injury than our offensive line, however, and those guys are not small. Our LB's often suffer injuries, and they are admittedly undersized. But that doesn't mean they are poorly conditioned, and since injuries happen all over the field to every team, it sort of negates the idea that it's our guys more so than anyone else.

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haha I'm begining to wonder why they just don't say "we fired all the coaches". It's nice that Grigson wants to talk to each of them individually, but I suspect that they've noticed the trend by now. Considering how many coaches there are, this could go on for days.

Perhaps some of them are hiding.

lmao i could just imagine some coaches under their desks

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Not even close to accurate.

It is simply a statement that they are blowing out everyone.

You should ammend that. I have only seen people fired for doing a bad job. Who has done a good job since 2007 who has been fired?

I suppose that you are going to tell us that most injured defense and one of the most injured teams is a strong resume for a strength and conditiong coach?

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