krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I chose this kid as one of my selections when I did my mock draft a month or so back. Montana prospect reminds Vikings coach of Everson Griffin http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000646353/article/montana-prospect-reminds-vikings-coach-of-everson-griffin Here are the results from his pro day: Defensive end Tyrone Holmes -- 6-foot-2 1/4, 253 pounds 40 yard dash 4.6 seconds 3 cone drill 7.1 seconds 20-yard short shuttle 4.28 seconds Bench Press 28 reps of 225 pounds Holmes led all of FCS in sacks with 18 in 2015, topping the sack totals of some other notable 2016 NFL Draft prospects: South Carolina State's Javon Hargrave (13.5), Stony Brook's Victor Ochi and Southern Utah's James Cowser (13.0), and Eastern Kentucky's Noah Spence (11.5). There's some noteworthy small school guys in this draft with good measurables. I like Judon and Holmes the most. As I was telling Colts449 yesterday I didn't realize how big Judon is at 6'3" and 275lbs with a 4.7 40. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Grigson grabbed one of these guys when it's all said and done. We all know he scouts into the deepest pits. My only thing with both of these guys from my film study is they both seem to be mostly hand in the dirt style pass rushers versus stand up. Although I have seen Holmes rush from a stand up position before. To me it's cool to take a lower round guy and switch them off to a 3-4. If it doesn't work you just cut them. I think both of these guys are athletic enough to make the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Since every edge rusher in this year's draft seems to be flawed in some way, this guy's credentials read as well as anybody's.........and he won't cost a first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 I still think we will need to select an edge rusher high, but there are some intriguing small school guys that we could bolster the pass rush with in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, krunk said: I still think we will need to select an edge rusher high, but there are some intriguing small school guys that we could bolster the pass rush with in the later rounds. maybe he could be a future Robert Mathis...based on later round draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DougDew Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 1 minute ago, krunk said: I still think we will need to select an edge rusher high, but there are some intriguing small school guys that we could bolster the pass rush with in the later rounds. I wish there was an EDGE worthy enough of a high round pick. I like the crop of CBs and DTs in the first round and I'm afraid that any edge rusher taken in the first would be a reach. Improve the pass rush via better coverage and DT push and ride Cole and Mathis for another year. Take the edge rushers in the later rounds and develop them. That's not the perfect situation, but I don't think the college talent supports a different strategy at this point without reaching for a player fairly badly. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, DougDew said: I wish there was an EDGE worthy enough of a high round pick. I like the crop of CBs and DTs in the first round and I'm afraid that any edge rusher taken in the first would be a reach. Improve the pass rush via better coverage and DT push and ride Cole and Mathis for another year. Take the edge rushers in the later rounds and develop them. That's not the perfect situation, but I don't think the college talent supports a different strategy at this point without reaching for a player fairly badly. JMO. I'm not of the opinion that one definitely needs to be taken 1st round. When I say high I mean rounds 1-3. It could be any of those. I like Camalei Correa quite a bit as a direct 3-4 defense scheme fit in the 2nd round. I'm even okay with Leonard Floyd OUTSIDE of the first round. Spence fits, but he's got the Ecstacy red flags so the Colts will likely pass unless he does one hell of an interview when the meet with him. And I think we could top it off by adding a guy like Holmes or Judon late for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, krunk said: I'm not of the opinion that one definitely needs to be taken 1st round. When I say high I mean rounds 1-3. It could be any of those. I like Camalei Correa quite a bit as a direct 3-4 defense scheme fit in the 2nd round. I'm even okay with Leonard Floyd OUTSIDE of the first round. Spence fits, but he's got the Ecstacy red flags so the Colts will likely pass unless he does one hell of an interview when the meet with him. And I think we could top it off by adding a guy like Holmes or Judon late for example. I'm not high on Floyd or Spence. .The guy I like is Jenkins in the 3rd. He'd take over for Walden setting the edge but he is an underrated pass rusher. He should get better. He could be this years Anderson. We only have 3 OLB's on the roster. All 3 are over 30. I could live with adding a pick the middle of day 3 coming away with Ngakoue and Holmes. We need a CB to play across from Vontae. We can take care of that in the 2nd. I would have a hard time passing on Billings in the 1st. He could be special I'd hate to miss that train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, akcolt said: I'm not high on Floyd or Spence. .The guy I like is Jenkins in the 3rd. He'd take over for Walden setting the edge but he is an underrated pass rusher. He should get better. He could be this years Anderson. We only have 3 OLB's on the roster. All 3 are over 30. I could live with adding a pick the middle of day 3 coming away with Ngakoue and Holmes. We need a CB to play across from Vontae. We can take care of that in the 2nd. I would have a hard time passing on Billings in the 1st. He could be special I'd hate to miss that train. I think Floyd will be a competent pass rusher if given more focus on that role. I just think he has a long way to go versus the run. The guy is not very strong and I don't know how strong he will ever be. I think he's got too much project stuff going on overall. I'm okay with a project outside of the first round. I'm not a big fan of him either. As for me I don't see the need to draft a SAM unless he's coming in with real good sack production like Shaq Lawson. Jenkins to me would give you about as much or less as Walden. I just think we could do something else with that pick, but everybody has their own window in which they see the draft. I like Billings quite a bit but I'd be cool missing on him if I knew I could get Austin Johnson in the 3rd round. To me he's just as stout at the point of attack and much more versatile than Billings. You can play him at the 3 tech, Nose, and 5 tech and on passing downs. Not that you can't make use of Billings on passing downs because he does have some pass rushing ability no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks for posting. I wasn't aware of this kid. He seems to be another late round EDGE rusher with a lot of upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, COLTS449 said: Thanks for posting. I wasn't aware of this kid. He seems to be another late round EDGE rusher with a lot of upside. The small school guys seem to be in greater abundance than the big school guys. Nice measurables too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Nice one! Hard to catch all the small school guys this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 37 minutes ago, COLTS449 said: Thanks for posting. I wasn't aware of this kid. He seems to be another late round EDGE rusher with a lot of upside. Carson Wentz knows about him. LOL The turnover was forced when Tyrone Holmes sacked NDSU quarterback Carson Wentz. The loose ball was recovered by Kendrick Van Ackeren. It was one of the few miscues Saturday for Wentz, who passed for 198 yards and two touchdowns, and ran for 70 yards and two more scores. http://www.gogriz.com/news/2015/8/29/FB_0829151909.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Couldn't find anything on him but highlights http://www.gogriz.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Gavin said: Couldn't find anything on him but highlights http://www.gogriz.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1716 Yeah there's not much. That's all you can really pick up is from that one highlight unfortunately. Unless you can find a full Montana game somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, krunk said: Yeah there's not much. That's all you can really pick up is from that one highlight unfortunately. Unless you can find a full Montana game somewhere. North Dakota State vs Montana youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Gavin said: North Dakota State vs Montana youtube I may watch when I get home. I'm at work now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Sounds like Lynden Trail all over again. Did he even make a roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 39 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: Sounds like Lynden Trail all over again. Did he even make a roster? Linden Trail was big and that was about it. His college production wasn't even that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just watched Holmes vs ND State and Carson Wentz. Two sacks, one forced fumble, a couple tackles for loss. Dude has burst, he comes with some power, he has a good rip and club move. He's very raw, but the athleticism is there. Not a lot of bend, but he has some nifty feet and change of direction ability. He looks like a mess in coverage and in the open field, unless he's coming straight ahead. Not good setting the edge or playing straight up on blockers, lost some battles to TEs. His technique is all over the place. He's a late round guy, maybe even a UDFA, but whoever gets him will have something to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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