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Our safety position - Darian Thompson, Boise State???

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I think Thompson is likely worth a 2nd round pick.     But I don't think Safety is our 2nd greatest need.

 

We have to get at least one pass rusher,  at least one offensive lineman,  and at least one defensive lineman,  and likely one inside linebacker before we get a safety.    

 

Adams, Lowery and Geathers hold the fort until relief comes....

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13 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

You are assuming we re-sign Lowery

 

Yes,  I am....        Other than the possibility that Lowery wants too much to re-sign,  I'm not aware of a reason why we wouldn't re-sign him. 

 

He played decently.       We re-signed Adams,  so I'm expecting that we'll re-sign Lowery as well.

 

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Whether or not we re-sign Lowery, I think Geathers and Adams will be our starters going into next season. I don't really see us going after a safety in FA, but with Adams' age, I wouldn't be upset with us drafting a good FS to pair with Geathers in the future. I haven't personally watched any of Thompson's tape, but I've heard good things about him, so he could be a good fit for us.

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It depends what we do in free agency to be honest. I think if Darian Thompson is the highest rated player in the second round then yes we should draft him. The logic to draft based off of need is flawed in my opinion. Now if the value is close to the same then draft need, but if the talent is there then draft based off of talent.

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Sell me on Thompson, is he a true FS? My favorite FS in this draft is Joseph but I doubt he'll be there in round 2. I like Cash and Killebrew as well but they are more SS types and very similar to Geathers. I feel like we need a ballhawk to pair with Geathers who is more of a thumper.

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For a solid FS we should go with either Sean Davis or Houston-Carson in the 3rd or 4th if available.  Both look like they can be solid players as a safety.  Both similar in size at 6'1'' about 200lbs. and both have player CB and converted to safety.  With good coaching and a year behind Adams they should be good players.  Joseph, Cash, and Killebrew are SS and Geathers will have that for us hopefully. 

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1 hour ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Sell me on Thompson, is he a true FS? My favorite FS in this draft is Joseph but I doubt he'll be there in round 2. I like Cash and Killebrew as well but they are more SS types and very similar to Geathers. I feel like we need a ballhawk to pair with Geathers who is more of a thumper.

My personal favorite S is Joseph too by a long ways.

 

Yes Thompson is a true FS prospect. He is a ball hawk having 19 interceptions during his career at Boise State. Additionally with him having ball skills he is a willing tackler coming up from the secondary and making reliable tackles racking up 65 tackles this last season with 71 the year prior. I think he would be a great addition to our defense especially if Pagano wants to keep interchanging safeties as I think he can play both.

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1 hour ago, DaColts85 said:

For a solid FS we should go with either Sean Davis or Houston-Carson in the 3rd or 4th if available.  Both look like they can be solid players as a safety.  Both similar in size at 6'1'' about 200lbs. and both have player CB and converted to safety.  With good coaching and a year behind Adams they should be good players.  Joseph, Cash, and Killebrew are SS and Geathers will have that for us hopefully. 

Houston-Carson has been severely underrated thus far.

 

Maryland had Sean Davis playing a lot of CB this year, and he wasn't very good at it. Now when he plays S he is pretty good. I wish he would of had more tape as a senior playing S rather than CB.

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Have we got any hope of signing a player like Tashaun Gipson from the Browns? He's a top tier player in my opinion who we could pair with Adams in the short term and Geathers in the long terms. 

 

If we're going through the draft I like the sound of Kevin Byard as a later round pick.  

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Haven't watched Thompson but his write up on NFL.com says his coverage skills are pretty bad. The only safety I'd take round 2 is Karl Joseph. I did a write up on him and compared him to Mathieu. He's easily the best FS prospect since Earl Thomas. Would be a 1st round pick if not for his injury.

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5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I think Thompson is likely worth a 2nd round pick.     But I don't think Safety is our 2nd greatest need.

 

We have to get at least one pass rusher,  at least one offensive lineman,  and at least one defensive lineman,  and likely one inside linebacker before we get a safety.    

 

Adams, Lowery and Geathers hold the fort until relief comes....

 

You & I are rarely on different sides but in this case...

 

I don't believe the Colts would have anything close to a predetermined order of drafting for positions.  Safety is a need and if the right guy in their mind is available, then they take him, as they should.  

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1 hour ago, jskinnz said:

 

You & I are rarely on different sides but in this case...

 

I don't believe the Colts would have anything close to a predetermined order of drafting for positions.  Safety is a need and if the right guy in their mind is available, then they take him, as they should.  

 

I understand what you're saying.....     and you might indeed be right....

 

That said....     I think Safety is a lower priority,  so all things being relatively equal,  I think (Hope?)  that the Colts will fill other needs first....   

 

If, for no other reason than it's easier to find a Safety in round 5 than it is to find the other positions that I mentioned.        That's my thinking at least,  and that's my hope for the Colts....  

                                                  

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3 hours ago, jskinnz said:

 

You & I are rarely on different sides but in this case...

 

I don't believe the Colts would have anything close to a predetermined order of drafting for positions.  Safety is a need and if the right guy in their mind is available, then they take him, as they should.  

People need to read this part of your sentence again and again and study it up until the draft "I don't believe the Colts would have anything close to a predetermined order of drafting for positions."

 

Its simply not logical to say "I must get a Safety in the 1st round" or "I must get a CB in the first round". Its as if some actually believe drafting a position in the first round automatically means that player was worth that 1st round pick and that he will be good because he was drafted in the 1st round

 

I don't get that line of thinking

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2 hours ago, Gavin said:

People need to read this part of your sentence again and again and study it up until the draft "I don't believe the Colts would have anything close to a predetermined order of drafting for positions."

 

Its simply not logical to say "I must get a Safety in the 1st round" or "I must get a CB in the first round". Its as if some actually believe drafting a position in the first round automatically means that player was worth that 1st round pick and that he will be good because he was drafted in the 1st round

 

I don't get that line of thinking

 

Except,   I didn't say we had to get a player at a certain position in the first round.

 

Only that Safety was much lower on the priority list.      There's a difference.

 

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6 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Haven't watched Thompson but his write up on NFL.com says his coverage skills are pretty bad. The only safety I'd take round 2 is Karl Joseph. I did a write up on him and compared him to Mathieu. He's easily the best FS prospect since Earl Thomas. Would be a 1st round pick if not for his injury.

 

Find me someone -- anyone other than you -- who says he's the best since Earl Thomas.........

 

THAT,  I'd like to read...........

 

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