Ryan Pelley Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Good. It was a shame they were signed to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 My mom knew the Colts were expecting to release these two and she doesnt watch football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 11 hours ago, grmasterb said: Whalen was placed on IR. He wasn't cut. Whalen is not listed on the Colts official team roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 15 hours ago, COLTBLUE42 said: ok bro, first off if Pittsburg traded brown & bell, you wouldn't get just one first round pick, so your comparison was terrible. I mentioned a team like Seattle cause they have a high first round pick plus they gave one up last year for jimmy graham. Realistically yeah it would be hard to get a first round for them 2. But maybe a second round pick is more realistic. There you go Man. I'm telling you. We couldn't get a 2nd rounder. We couldn't get a 3rd rounder. The best we could get for Gore and AJ would be maybe a 5th rounder. And honestly I doubt anybody would even want to trade anything for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 22 hours ago, bababooey said: Marshall and Sanders were FA steals last year and of course we pay the price for AJ. Sanders was the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 18 minutes ago, chad72 said: Sanders was the year before. Yea someone else corrected me previously. Either way it was a great price for a proven WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 18 hours ago, COLTBLUE42 said: I mentioned a team like Seattle cause they have a high first round pick plus they gave one up last year for jimmy graham. Big difference...Jimmy Graham is still very much in his prime, both Gore and Johnson are past their prime and are showing signs of decline already. NO TEAM is going to give up any kind of significant draft pick for either one or even a combination of both. Keep in mind that I believe it was last offseason that Chicago traded Brandon Marshall AND 7th round pick just to get a 5th round pick in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetLife_XCVI Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Shame how they didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grmasterb Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 14 hours ago, theanarchist said: ???? lets say even if Moncrief becomes a more frequent target than TY, why would you think that the team isn't set at WR? Both players are young, entering their prime, talented guys. Doesn't matter who #1 or #2 is. I hate doing this but they could compare to Marvin/Reggie someday as a great 1/2 combo. They have similar potential. While Hilton is very talented, I also think he's kind of soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock8591 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 You'll be lucky to get a 6th rounder for Gore, Johnson, or Cole. All are 33-34 years old plus. Not to mention draft picks in its first 3-4 years have almost no salary cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Not surprised by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Cole was a garbage signing, but I feel Johnson could have definitely been useful if they had utilized him better if the season had gone as planned. Yes he wasn't the guy of 5 years ago, but Luck getting injured and changing OC's midseason made for a cluster **** season for the majority of our offense in general. He could have definitely been useful if all went as planned. It was definitely a case of 'it wasn't meant to be'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bap1331 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Johnson could have worked out but like the Colts said, they're looking to get younger. But I'm glad Andre was able to bring his experience and knowledge to other receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 1 Manning Fan Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Doesn't hurt my feelings at all. I know he was a beast in his youth, but I was never a fan of signing former stars that are past their prime to the team. Let's draft well and not gamble on aging vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 18 hours ago, grmasterb said: While Hilton is very talented, I also think he's kind of soft. care to clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Saw an Andre Johnson jersey for half off today at Finish Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grmasterb Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 hours ago, CR91 said: care to clarify I think he struggles in tight coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, grmasterb said: I think he struggles in tight coverage. and that makes him soft how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim scheurich Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 On 2/12/2016 at 6:45 AM, theanarchist said: ???? lets say even if Moncrief becomes a more frequent target than TY, why would you think that the team isn't set at WR? Both players are young, entering their prime, talented guys. Doesn't matter who #1 or #2 is. I hate doing this but they could compare to Marvin/Reggie someday as a great 1/2 combo. They have similar potential. Moncreifs good but Ty's better. Defenses are trying to shut down ty. they are trying to stop ty, and let someone else beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grmasterb Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, CR91 said: and that makes him soft how? No. 1 receivers find separation and hold onto the ball in tight coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, grmasterb said: No. 1 receivers find separation and hold onto the ball in tight coverage. so youre saying hes not a number one wr? his three years straight with 1000 yards and two straight pro bowls say different even without luck for 11 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grmasterb Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, CR91 said: so youre saying hes not a number one wr? his three years straight with 1000 yards and two straight pro bowls say different even without luck for 11 games How does he perform against elite defenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim scheurich Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, grmasterb said: How does he perform against elite defenses? find someone better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, grmasterb said: How does he perform against elite defenses? burn the seahawks for two tds beat the crap out of talib beat the crap out of haden always burns the texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, grmasterb said: How does he perform against elite defenses? Pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live and let live Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 hour ago, CR91 said: and that makes him soft how? He struggle when they jam him hard at the line and he doesn't get open. NE does it every time we meet. Yes, that is soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, Live and let live said: He struggle when they jam him hard at the line and he doesn't get open. NE does it every time we meet. Yes, that is soft. funny because hilton had 74 yards and td vs the pats this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live and let live Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, CR91 said: funny because hilton had 74 yards and td vs the pats this year Now add up all of the other games they played. They have taken him out of the equation completely on numerous blowouts. He is small and he is affected by really physical play. This is why I think TY is a very good receiver but not even close to being an elite one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, Live and let live said: Now add up all of the other games they played. They have taken him out of the equation completely on numerous blowouts. He is small and he is affected by really physical play. This is why I think TY is a very good receiver but not even close to being an elite one. go check his first two seasons vs the pats then come back to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Extend Luck, Allen and Fleener. Sign some offensive lineman. Release Jackson, Cole and Johnson. Time to get younger. We need a young running back to pair with Gore. Build the trenches of the offensive line. Bring in some pass rushers and someone to pair Jerrell Freeman with. I say we move on from Adams and Lowery and pair Geathers with a fresh face. Just my two cents. Good riddance' Greg Toler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklez Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 11/02/2016 at 6:00 PM, Jason_S said: well, keep in mind that in the past, the FA WR experiments were mostly necessary. Now that both Hilton and Moncrief have proven themselves as effective WRs, with Dorsett waiting in the wings, we shouldn't need a veteran WR presence like we have in the past. TY can totally do that now. He's earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 zak-keefer-expects-the-colts-to-release-andre-johnson-and-trent-cole/ You could prob change "Zak Keefer" to "The World" in the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Zak also predicted other such obvious things as the sun would rise in the east and set in the west, that at some point this year it will rain in Indiana and that water is wet. So the guy really, you know, knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traines Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 On 2/14/2016 at 9:57 PM, Live and let live said: He struggle when they jam him hard at the line and he doesn't get open. NE does it every time we meet. Yes, that is soft. See link below. On 2/14/2016 at 10:02 PM, Live and let live said: Now add up all of the other games they played. They have taken him out of the equation completely on numerous blowouts. He is small and he is affected by really physical play. This is why I think TY is a very good receiver but not even close to being an elite one. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HiltT.00/gamelog/?opp_id=nwe Here is the link in case you need help finding the stats. To the bolded; the game he mentioned was the 3rd best game he has had statistically against the patriots in his career (out of 5). So in 5 career games he has TWO 100-yard games and 3 total TDs in 5 games. Maybe you consider that soft, and under-performing, but seems pretty damn good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPFolks Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 1:45 PM, Indyfan4life said: Sucks for AJ because I was so excited, but his production was just too bad, even with Luck. I appreciate his contributions last season, but it's obvious he isn't what he was. Best of luck to him wherever he goes. To make it worse, he was on the field far more than I realized last year because he was so totally useless. I said at the time they should have kept Reggie and still believe it and this proves it. It is unimaginable to think Reggie wouldn't have been FAR cheaper, and given us more than Johnson. And it would have helped the team while helping him catch Marvin and others to get into the Hall of Fame.. now he will fall short and for what? A horrible season by Johnson... what a sad waste and betrayal of an all time Colt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 meh Trent Cole, i wasnt to high on the pick up you could see he was declining in Philly, but man AJ i was sure hoping would be a steal too bad... I will be choked if he goes to another team and produces though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 1:32 PM, Vinatieri4 said: Cutting Trent Cole will be such a loss to the team I know what will their defense do with out him???? They're going to go from bad to.........................bad................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I think AJ will get a pass and stay. Trent Cole however won't if we draft defense this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 7 hours ago, JPFolks said: To make it worse, he was on the field far more than I realized last year because he was so totally useless. I said at the time they should have kept Reggie and still believe it and this proves it. It is unimaginable to think Reggie wouldn't have been FAR cheaper, and given us more than Johnson. And it would have helped the team while helping him catch Marvin and others to get into the Hall of Fame.. now he will fall short and for what? A horrible season by Johnson... what a sad waste and betrayal of an all time Colt. IMO the only thing proved is Johnson was not worth the effort as thought. It was time for Reggie to go. He had become a shell of himself his last 2 seasons here. Injury and age caught up with Reggie and that wasn't going to get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Both should be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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