New England @ Denver (Gday/Post Game - Merged)

[Superman]

2 hours ago, aaron11 said:

espn reports it.  i guess the casinos tell them where the money is going

 

a quick link if you havent seen it  

 

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14632234/money-continues-pile-new-england-patriots-las-vegas

 

Good stuff, thanks. They took lopsided action on both favorites, it looks like. I wonder if that was intentional. That article says some books made slight adjustments in the line, but sharp action came in heavy so they moved it back. 

 

In this case is looks like they took 5:1 action on the Pats, but 3:1 on the Panthers. So Vegas still wins. If the Panthers had lost or failed to cover, Vegas would have lost big.

[VDB]

Go Broncos!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jules]

Pats have not won a road playoff game since 2006. That is ALARMING.

 

I didn't really pull for anyone in this game. I hated them both as the game went on. Pats just for being the Pats and every time I see Denver I think that D is dirty as hell since our game vs. them early this year.

 

Glad it's over. I thought this game was brutal at times to watch.

[VDB]

1 minute ago, Jules said:

Pats have not won a road playoff game since 2006. That is ALARMING.

 

I didn't really pull for anyone in this game. I hated them both as the game went on. Pats just for being the Pats and every time I see Denver I think that D is dirty as hell since our game vs. them early this year.

 

Glad it's over. I thought this game was brutal at times to watch.

 

MMkay, what exactly did the Broncos do that was dirty against the pats?

 

And in the game against the Colts, Talib completely screwed up and what he did was disgusting.  Dont condemn the whole defense for that. I also recall our players complaining that one of your players was purposely hitting Miller in the groin. 

[Jules]

1 minute ago, VDB said:

 

MMkay, what exactly did the Broncos do that was dirty against the pats?

 

And in the game against the Colts, Talib completely screwed up and what he did was disgusting.  Dont condemn the whole defense for that. I also recall our players complaining that one of your players was purposely hitting Miller in the groin. 

 

Meh, I don't really care what they did to the Pats. But, when they played the Colts there were several moments I feel they were beyond childish on defense if you go back and watch it all over. It's like they knew they were losing to us and could not handle it at times.

 

And they are lucky the Colts didn't make the playoffs with a healthy Luck since we completely own Denver.

 

I wasn't trying to get into this though, I should just go to sleep. Been a long day and I am rambling now.

 

For the Manning fans here who I get along with well.......I hope you guys enjoy this experience since I know it means a lot to you. I am happy for you guys as individuals, do not worry what the people on tv or in the media or on other forums say about predictions.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

3 hours ago, Mrs. Misunderstood said:

a better view

 

Poor little guy. He's got his daddies 6head.

[bababooey]

LEAVE STEPHEN ALONE!!!!

 

http://dailysnark.com/patriots-fans-go-kicker-steven-gostkowski-twitter-postgame-missing-extra-point/

[RollerColt]

20 minutes ago, bababooey said:

LEAVE STEPHEN ALONE!!!!

 

http://dailysnark.com/patriots-fans-go-kicker-steven-gostkowski-twitter-postgame-missing-extra-point/

I'm quite perplexed on this. Even had Steven made the extra point, wouldn't the Patriots have been down by one instead of two? So basically if that kick was made and nothing else changed, then they would have still needed to go for a two point conversion at the end. Am I missing something here?

[bayone]

13 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I'm quite perplexed on this. Even had Steven made the extra point, wouldn't the Patriots have been down by one instead of two? So basically if that kick was made and nothing else changed, then they would have still needed to go for a two point conversion at the end. Am I missing something here?

 

 

If he made the extra point, yes they would of been down by only 1, thus after the td , another extra point would of tied the game at that point with little time left, of course BB may have taken a chance and gone for the win via the same 2 point try due to the the way Brady was being hassled, but that would of been his choice, he wouldnt of had to and could of basically ensured an OT game

 

also if the missed extra point was made , and Pats not down 8 but 7 , alot of other decisions by both teams may have been effected

[Gramz]

7 hours ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Poor little guy. He's got his daddies 6head.

Seriously...??  That's what you took from this post.   smh.

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, bayone said:

 

 

If he made the extra point, yes they would of been down by only 1, thus after the td , another extra point would of tied the game at that point with little time left, if course BB may have taken a chance and gone for the win then the way Brady was being hassled, but that would of been his choice, he wouldnt of had to and could of basically ensured an OT game

 

also if the missed extra point was made , and Pats not down 8 but 7 , alot of other decisions by both teams may have been effected

Gah! See, I knew there was a blatantly obvious thing I was missing. Boy, I need more sleep apparently. Thanks bayone!

 

[bayone]

2 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Gah! See, I knew there was a blatantly obvious thing I was missing. Boy, I need more sleep apparently. Thanks bayone!

 

 

I am sure we all do, i stayed up to late watching highlights, maybe thats why i knew your answer, it was discussed alot

[dw49]

10 hours ago, Superman said:

 

How does anyone know that the money kept going to NE and wasn't more balanced early? When do the books give indication that the bets coming in are favoring one side or the other, aside from moving the line?

Honest questions.

 

 

 

They make that kind of info easy to get. This article said a couple books went to 3.5. 

 

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14632234/money-continues-pile-new-england-patriots-las-vegas

 

Sorry about the repeated post. My laptop is cooked.

[bayone]

47 minutes ago, bababooey said:

LEAVE STEPHEN ALONE!!!!

 

http://dailysnark.com/patriots-fans-go-kicker-steven-gostkowski-twitter-postgame-missing-extra-point/

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I am amazed by the wordings of Pat fans On G in that link , hes made many a big time winning kick , and in game kicks

 

Really stunned, couldnt ever see saying that about a team player who has consistently been there for them, if it was missed FG it would of been worse, he came back and made them

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Maybe they all bet their mortgages on the Pats 

 

 

[bababooey]

16 minutes ago, bayone said:

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I am amazed by the wordings of Pat fans On G in that link , hes made many a big time winning kick , and in game kicks

 

Really stunned, couldnt ever see saying that about a team player who has consistently been there for them, if it was missed FG it would of been worse, he came back and made them

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Maybe they all bet their mortgages on the Pats 

 

 

I hope they did. Pats fans have the biggest twitter muscles. Really makes the good fans look horrible when all you see is this garbage. Acting as if they didn't get the biggest gift of a superbowl literally less than 365 days ago and theyre ready to murder a guy on their own team that has #donehisjob for years...

[2006Coltsbestever]

12 hours ago, Mrs. Misunderstood said:

A toast to @jvan1973 @Susie Q @ManningFANin FL @Fx Stryker @oldunclemark @2006Coltsbestever @bayone @21isSuperman and all the others on here that never gave up on #18.

 

It's a Good Day...  We deserve to be happy and Celebrate.

I wish I could like this 10 times! It's a lovely morning.

[Restored]

So now we have to take in the great defensive effort by the Broncos with Manning beating Brady… He was a “choke artist” according to critics. Now Peyton FINALLY has the better defense and NOW we should take the “better defense” into account??

 

Brady has historically had the better coach, running game, defense, and special teams in their head to head matchups but it never mattered before because manning just “chokes” in big games. But when Brady loses, we should consider all the other factors. How convenient.

[2006Coltsbestever]

27 minutes ago, bayone said:

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I am amazed by the wordings of Pat fans On G in that link , hes made many a big time winning kick , and in game kicks

 

Really stunned, couldnt ever see saying that about a team player who has consistently been there for them, if it was missed FG it would of been worse, he came back and made them

'

Maybe they all bet their mortgages on the Pats 

 

 

Football is really about who gets the timely breaks when teams are even and he hadn't missed an extra point since 2006, 532 in a row. That made a huge difference in the game. It's stuff like that, that shows anything can happen. Once the Pats didn't get HFA that was huge too, winning in MileHigh is really tough.

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Restored said:

So now we have to take in the great defensive effort by the Broncos with Manning beating Brady… He was a “choke artist” according to critics. Now Peyton FINALLY has the better defense and NOW we should take the “better defense” into account??

 

 

Brady has historically had the better coach, running game, defense, and special teams in their head to head matchups but it never mattered before because manning just “chokes” in big games. But when Brady loses, we should consider all the other factors. How convenient.

 

I would like this but I am out of likes  Shows you I have no life outside of working, I am on here way too much.

[OffensivelyPC]

36 minutes ago, Restored said:

So now we have to take in the great defensive effort by the Broncos with Manning beating Brady… He was a “choke artist” according to critics. Now Peyton FINALLY has the better defense and NOW we should take the “better defense” into account??

 

 

Brady has historically had the better coach, running game, defense, and special teams in their head to head matchups but it never mattered before because manning just “chokes” in big games. But when Brady loses, we should consider all the other factors. How convenient.

 

*Takes in deep breath and slowly exhales*

 

I think you're completely approaching this from the wrong angle. It's a beautiful day when the entire media sphere has to back peddle and excuse Tom Brady and the Patriots implosion on national television when no one gave the opponent any chance. Take it in friend. Enjoy it. It's a wonderful thing, not something to complain about. Mozart didn't make anything sound this beautiful.

[Restored]

4 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

*Takes in deep breath and slowly exhales*

 

I think you're completely approaching this from the wrong angle. It's a beautiful day when the entire media sphere has to back peddle and excuse Tom Brady and the Patriots implosion on national television when no one gave the opponent any chance. Take it in friend. Enjoy it. It's a beautiful thing, not something to complain about. Mozart didn't make anything sound this beautiful.

 

I am enjoying it but I also have to take the opportunity to show the double standard that's been ever apparent over the course of the Brady-Manning saga. The conclusion to it perfectly summarized how their rivalry should be examined. Fairly and objectively with the same set of measuring tools.

[OffensivelyPC]

8 minutes ago, Restored said:

 

I am enjoying it but I also have to take the opportunity to show the double standard that's been ever apparent over the course of the Brady-Manning saga. The conclusion to it perfectly summarized how their rivalry should be examined. Fairly and objectively with the same set of measuring tools.

ESPN and NBC Sports are broadcast in Boston territory, what would you expect?  

[cdgacoltsfan]

Congrats to Peyton!!  3-1 in AFC Champioship games agianst Brady & Co.

[2006Coltsbestever]

That's how Pats fans always put it. Have to win when it counts. Looks like to me Peyton has done it several times. 4-1 in AFC Title games overall, 3-1 vs Brady and BB, and no matter what happens in 2 weeks he has a SB win. I get the 9 1 and done's but Peyton has still come up huge a lot as well. I don't go on Pats Boards but I am sure they are giving all the credit to the Broncos Defense for their win but yet Peyton set the tone with an opening drive TD pass and once again had 0 Turnovers while their clutch QB had 2 picks and a terrible QB rating.

[cdgacoltsfan]

So now Brady and Co. are 1-5 when it counts against the Manning boys .

[Superman]

11 hours ago, VDB said:

 

MMkay, what exactly did the Broncos do that was dirty against the pats?

 

And in the game against the Colts, Talib completely screwed up and what he did was disgusting.  Dont condemn the whole defense for that. I also recall our players complaining that one of your players was purposely hitting Miller in the groin. 

 

It wasn't just Talib, I thought there were several late hits on Luck in the Broncos game. And I thought the same about the two matchups in 2014. But that's not just the Broncos, I think lots of teams target Luck and get away with unnecessary hits on him.

 

Yesterday, I thought Ward's late hit on Bolden(?) was a good call, but I didn't agree with the defenseless receiver call on Keo. It was helmet to helmet, but they called it defenseless, and I don't get it. If you're not allowed to hit that guy in that situation, then I don't understand that rule at all. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, cdgacoltsfan said:

So now Brady and Co. are 1-5 when it counts against the Manning boys .

Yep, the Manning's are his Kryptonite in the big games.

[Superman]

3 hours ago, dw49 said:

 

They make that kind of info easy to get. This article said a couple books went to 3.5. 

 

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14632234/money-continues-pile-new-england-patriots-las-vegas

 

Sorry about the repeated post. My laptop is cooked.

 

I don't gamble so I've never looked for that stuff. I always thought, like you said, that the books move the line to keep money even.

 

They clearly took sides on this one. I think people mostly overlooked the Pats main weaknesses, and how they could potentially be exploited by the Broncos strengths. I understood the opening line, given how much people wanted to bet against Manning, but the Pats had some serious issues, as we saw yesterday. It's kind of a brilliant move from Vegas to bet on Denver, given the popular thinking.

 

I don't know why they bet on Arizona.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I wonder what new Hotel is going up in Vegas after yesterday  

[bozo]

6 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

So now Brady and Co. are 1-5 when it counts against the Manning boys .

I thought Super Bowl wins is what counts and Brady is still ahead of both Mannings combined. I'm a colts fan by the way, not Brady or Manning. 

[cdgacoltsfan]

Just think about how many more rings Brady would have if he could only beat the Mannings when it counted.

[2006Coltsbestever]

21 minutes ago, bozo said:

I thought Super Bowl wins is what counts and Brady is still ahead of both Mannings combined. I'm a colts fan by the way, not Brady or Manning. 

So does Terry Bradshaw and nobody even puts him in the Top 10 ever, if SB wins is all that counts than Terry is just as great as Brady is, not only that he is 4-0 in SB's like Montana is. In Football any Playoff win is actually a win that counts in reality. Peyton as a starter has lost 13 but also has won 13 + a SB win so his resume speaks for itself and 3-1 vs Brady in Title games.

[cdgacoltsfan]

So much for the Partiots "revenge tour"  that the media kept harping about.

[HOZER]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2610691-denver-police-department-trolls-patriots-during-afc-championship-game

 

lol, Love it!!!! 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

So much for the Partiots "revenge tour"  that the media kept harping about.

Once they lost HFA they lost their edge.

[bozo]

4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

So does Terry Bradshaw and nobody even puts him in the Top 10 ever, if SB wins is all that counts than Terry is just as great as Brady is, not only that he is 4-0 in SB's like Montana is. In Football any Playoff win is actually a win that counts in reality.

I don't know what media you hear from but Bradshaw is always talked up as a top 10 QB.  Those Steelers teams were probably the best of all time.  They were great at all positions.  The media needs to sell the product as individual players but most realize it is a team game.  I don't like it as many have to pump it up as QB vs QB.  

[Corndog]

Has anyone seen the Pats fans in social media wishing death on Gostkowski?  Keep it classy, Boston.

[bababooey]

7 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

So much for the Partiots "revenge tour"  that the media kept harping about.

Kill Everyone but the Dolphins, Eagles, Jets, and Broncos twice Tour

[bababooey]

3 minutes ago, Corndog said:

Has anyone seen the Pats fans in social media wishing death on Gostkowski?  Keep it classy, Boston.

I posted that earlier. Even Howard Stern got involved this morning telling them to call the dogs off and he only watches the Knicks. They have huge twitter muscles and forget the fact he's the most consistent kicker in the NFL and they had a superbowl gifted to them less than a year ago. So ungrateful.

[OffensivelyPC]

11 hours ago, VDB said:

 

MMkay, what exactly did the Broncos do that was dirty against the pats?

 

And in the game against the Colts, Talib completely screwed up and what he did was disgusting.  Dont condemn the whole defense for that. I also recall our players complaining that one of your players was purposely hitting Miller in the groin. 

Some of the post-play extra curriculars aren't that big of a deal.  The only ones that I really recall that were just completely overboard were the Talib eye poke(?!!) and then the intentional shot by Kevin Vickerson on Satele's knee (and hey, it was Satele, Vickerson might have done us a favor if he'd actually injured Satele).

 

There might have been some by our players, not sure they were that bad, but whatevs.  If it doesn't take a guy out when there's meaningful game left or doesn't ultimately affect the outcome of that game or any future games, then no harm no foul.  I mean, the player deserves to be called dirty for it, fined, and perhaps suspended, but those guys in the trenches are always taking shots here and there.  Less about trying to hurt the guy than it is trying to get under his skin and into his head.