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Of course, so that greedy owners can leverage their cities to build mega stadiums , like Kroenke. Poor St. Louis, 400 million in public funding wasn't enough, and they still owe on the current stadium. I hope they kick that bum out of the Missouri Hall of Fame. He put a crummy product on the field, then betrayed his own community he grew up in. Is there no honor left ? Apparently, not in the NFL. 

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53 minutes ago, The Old Crow said:

Of course, so that greedy owners can leverage their cities to build mega stadiums , like Kroenke. Poor St. Louis, 400 million in public funding wasn't enough, and they still owe on the current stadium. I hope they kick that bum out of the Missouri Hall of Fame. He put a crummy product on the field, then betrayed his own community he grew up in. Is there no honor left ? Apparently, not in the NFL. 

 

Yep, OC! I hear ya. Whether anyone agrees with the move or not, we all knew that this would be an evitable move by the NFL. Creating more & more revenue is the name of the game (no pun intended). I've always been one for keeping American football here on it's own soil. But, when you think about it on a world wide venue it just may come down to adjusting & getting used to it. 

 

There are a gargantuan amount of NFL fans all over the globe. Trying to serve that aspect by expansion is a great idea as far as revenue goes. The incorporation of that scenario lends credence to an inviting conglomeration of a much more appreciated league IMO. I know that it seems I've changed my thinking, and I have done that very thing. However, visionaries from the old AFL changed this league for the utmost greater good. It may be time for that to be used on a much larger consensus. 

 

Change is difficult. It's hard. But, that shouldn't let our aspirations for a larger & better served league get in the way of expansion. Whether that's here or abroad. 

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5 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

The number one sport in the world is soccer. I think some of the owners have this notion the NFL can become what soccer is worldwide. I guess when that happens when a team wins a super bowl they will truly be the world champions. :dunno:

 

Think you hit the nail on the head, CC1!

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55 minutes ago, ColtRider said:

 

Yep, OC! I hear ya. Whether anyone agrees with the move or not, we all knew that this would be an evitable move by the NFL. Creating more & more revenue is the name of the game (no pun intended). I've always been one for keeping American football here on it's own soil. But, when you think about it on a world wide venue it just may come down to adjusting & getting used to it. 

 

There are a gargantuan amount of NFL fans all over the globe. Trying to serve that aspect by expansion is a great idea as far as revenue goes. The incorporation of that scenario lends credence to an inviting conglomeration of a much more appreciated league IMO. I know that it seems I've changed my thinking, and I have done that very thing. However, visionaries from the old AFL changed this league for the utmost greater good. It may be time for that to be used on a much larger consensus. 

 

Change is difficult. It's hard. But, that shouldn't let our aspirations for a larger & better served league get in the way of expansion. Whether that's here or abroad. 

who would they force to move.  it makes no sense from an economic standpoint for a team to move around the world when there are markets here for them.  it would need to be an expansion team imo. 

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5 minutes ago, buffalo34 said:

No. No. NO.

 

So you're going to have 8 teams a year needing to travel overseas, up to 8 or 9 time zones for west coast teams? There's no logic in this.  I just don't see how something like this could possibly work.

The representative stated in his argument for, that since the NFL only plays 1 game a week, they feel that they are the only pro sport capable of going international. The NFL in fact sees themselves as the ONLY sport where this could possibly work.

 

Not saying I agree, but their stance is clear. You got a week before and a week after to deal with the lag, that's how it's going to be.

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Thanks, but no thanks. And I'm saying this as an European. It is simply a bad idea that the players have to suffer of jet lag from the long travel distance. And I'm not sure you would get people from all over Europe to cheer for one team. 

 

Should I abandon my beloved Colts for London Elephants? Don't think so, methinks. 

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5 minutes ago, Mr Clueless said:

Thanks, but no thanks. And I'm saying this as an European. It is simply a bad idea that the players have to suffer of jet lag from the long travel distance. And I'm not sure you would get people from all over Europe to cheer for one team. 

 

Should I abandon my beloved Colts for London Elephants? Don't think so, methinks. 

You mean the London Jag-u-ars. Clearly different from the Jacksonville Jag-wires (English is a silly language)

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41 minutes ago, Narcosys said:

who would they force to move.  it makes no sense from an economic standpoint for a team to move around the world when there are markets here for them.  it would need to be an expansion team imo. 

There isnt a market in the US, that doesn't currently have a team,  bigger than London.   The team in London will also be marketable to most of Europe

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1 hour ago, Narcosys said:

who would they force to move.  it makes no sense from an economic standpoint for a team to move around the world when there are markets here for them.  it would need to be an expansion team imo. 

 

And therein lies one of the problems that the league will face ... Travel. Once the London team gets established I believe the next step is to evaluate scheduling headaches before moving on to another expansion. Mexico & Canada are far more likely after England. Taking that into account, the aversion of travel problems only lie with London. That's a much more tangible & singular task than the other two Western countries. If done correctly, and I believe it will, scheduling all teams on a rotative basis becomes a lot easier. 

 

And, that does not mean the United States cities are out of the mix as far as expansion. This is a long, long process for any new teams coming into the league here or abroad. To me at least, you would only encounter very limited travel problems for the time being. 

 

The scheduling is quite feasible & far more of a non-factor if the NFL chooses the route that's laid out above.

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I think placing a team there full time wouldn't work. Competitively can you imagine taking a west coast trip as a team from London or visa versa etc. Yuck. Don't get me wrong...financially I have no doubt it could work...I mean the advertising money...the corporate purchasing power...there will be a big enough fan base I'm confident...but the a week in week out grind for that team traveling it would be tough.

 

One thing I thought would be a good thing was if the league went to 18 games and cut 2 preseason games and add 2 more divisional games which could be played on neutral sites. (divisional opponent would be in order of finishing last year 1st playing 2nd and 3rd etc etc) Then for those 2 extra games the AFC & NFC East could play games in say London/Europe...NFC/AFC North could play in Toronto/Montreal...NFC/AFC South could play say in Mexico and NFC/AFC West play in Japan and Australia. Also since there would be two more games you would have an additional bye week so no matter if it was a Thursday night game or a travel game they would have a bye after it. Not saying that's the way it should be done but to me if your going to force the game on a global scale you need to establish the game in more markets and try to garner some fan support.

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7 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I think placing a team there full time wouldn't work. Competitively can you imagine taking a west coast trip as a team from London or visa versa etc. Yuck. Don't get me wrong...financially I have no doubt it could work...I mean the advertising money...the corporate purchasing power...there will be a big enough fan base I'm confident...but the a week in week out grind for that team traveling it would be tough.

 

One thing I thought would be a good thing was if the league went to 18 games and cut 2 preseason games and add 2 more divisional games which could be played on neutral sites. (divisional opponent would be in order of finishing last year 1st playing 2nd and 3rd etc etc) Then for those 2 extra games the AFC & NFC East could play games in say London/Europe...NFC/AFC North could play in Toronto/Montreal...NFC/AFC South could play say in Mexico and NFC/AFC West play in Japan and Australia. Also since there would be two more games you would have an additional bye week so no matter if it was a Thursday night game or a travel game they would have a bye after it. Not saying that's the way it should be done but to me if your going to force the game on a global scale you need to establish the game in more markets and try to garner some fan support.

 

Yep, dgambill. It opens up a wide array of scenarios that can & will be explored by the NFL once & if London joins the league. Like I mentioned, this could be a very, very long process of expanding into other countries & here in the U.S. The NFL will have to choose wisely it's projected path. That's for sure. 

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I am for international expansion.  I hear all your arguments, I still disagree.  Change on a scale like this will take time.  But if you can get international countries into football, you're expanding the youth across the globe as well, thereby expanding the pool of players to enter the league.  It didn't happen overnight in the states either.

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2 hours ago, Narcosys said:

who would they force to move.  it makes no sense from an economic standpoint for a team to move around the world when there are markets here for them.  it would need to be an expansion team imo. 

 

Why? What big markets in the USA are not covered? Jacksonville definitely needs to move and Buffalo would do a lot better in Toronto.

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17 hours ago, Live and let live said:

 

Why? What big markets in the USA are not covered? Jacksonville definitely needs to move and Buffalo would do a lot better in Toronto.

Fair enough.  London has a larger population than any us city. But how much of that population are nfl fans? Keeping a team in the US will pull probably just as many people.  Plus the cost of moving and flying an entire team 8 times a year.  Plus the cost of living and running a team is more over there, 30% more.  They will be paid based on the dollar but have to purchase based on the pound.  So a player's 10 million dollar contract week only be worth 7 million over there. 

 

There's many more economic factors to consider than the amount of the population. You will have US citizens under British law as well. That could complicate things.

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On ‎1‎/‎20‎/‎2016 at 4:20 PM, OffensivelyPC said:

I am for international expansion.  I hear all your arguments, I still disagree.  Change on a scale like this will take time.  But if you can get international countries into football, you're expanding the youth across the globe as well, thereby expanding the pool of players to enter the league.  It didn't happen overnight in the states either.

True words.

If you can hook Europe on NFL football, as a league, with TV, radio and marketing, don't you open up access to a whole continent full of money?  The BBC and BBC America would want broadcast rights to NFL football, wouldnt they? How much money is that?

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On 1/20/2016 at 3:00 PM, buffalo34 said:

No. No. NO.

 

So you're going to have 8 teams a year needing to travel overseas, up to 8 or 9 time zones for west coast teams? There's no logic in this.  I just don't see how something like this could possibly work.

 

I'm not fond of this whole idea either, but here's my recollection of what I'd heard on this topic, and I thought I got it from this forum a few months back.

 

Let's say it's the Jags (and they were illustrated as the likely team). 

The Jags would play the fist 8 games in London.

All visiting teams would have their bye week the next week.

Week 9 would be the Jags bye week.

Weeks 10 through 17 the Jags come back to the U.S.

What I don't recall is if they'd then play the last 8 games in Jax, or be on the road the entire time, or a mixture.

 

Sounds like a lot of bending over backwards to make this work, but ..........?

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