Can this Regime win a Championship?

[BProland85]

With Pagano and Grigson brought back for another 4 years, do you honestly believe this regime can win Indy a Championship during that span? We're getting to the point where Indy should be getting very close to knocking on the door for the Superbowl. Yes, Indy got there to the AFC Championship game last year, but was embarrassed when they got there.

 

What makes you as a fan believe this 4 years will be different than the last? Will certain things change such as Pagano giving more say as to who is drafted and what free agents are brought in? Will Pagano finally have full control over his staff and player decisions?

 

Time will tell.

[CanuckColtsFan]

I think we can. Just a few more improvements.

[MTC]

Doubt it unless we fix our whole plan in FA and the draft.

No more spending overrated older free agents. 

Must build through the draft.

[Pacergeek]

Definitely not. Organizations that win championships have smart leaders. Our GM, Ryan Grigson, is a stupid person. 

[ALL BLUE]

2 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Definitely not. Organizations that win championships have smart leaders. Our GM, Ryan Grigson, is a stupid person. 

Yep must be a real *.Making a living as GM in the NFL. Must be dumber than a box of rocks.

[Pacergeek]

13 minutes ago, ALL BLUE said:

Yep must be a real *.Making a living as GM in the NFL. Must be dumber than a box of rocks.

You think trading a first round pick for Richardson is the work of a smart person? You think drafting Phillip Dorsett in the first round was the work of a bright individual? You must have very low intelligence standards bro

[TheRustonRifle#7]

This team was in the AFC Championship Game last year and was in it through the first half and even into the 3rd quarter..... so yes. Luck getting hurt crippled this team and losing Matt even more...couple that with the nonsense Pep and now Manusky garbage and I feel the ship will be "righted"....

[BOTT]

If you surround Chuck with enough smart coaches ....maybe.  But I still have very little faith in Grigson.

[IndySouthsider]

52 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

You think trading a first round pick for Richardson is the work of a smart person? You think drafting Phillip Dorsett in the first round was the work of a bright individual? You must have very low intelligence standards bro

 

Lawrence Maroney? 1st round. They all have bad decisions.

[lester]

1 hour ago, Pacergeek said:

You think trading a first round pick for Richardson is the work of a smart person? You think drafting Phillip Dorsett in the first round was the work of a bright individual? You must have very low intelligence standards bro

 

We all thought Trent was the right thing to do. All of us. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

The logic on Dorsett is understood. Might not be the choice many of us would make, but the logic is sound.

 

Intelligence is not Grigson's problem.

[Coltsman1788]

Not until they field a team capable of rolling with the Steelers and Pats.  We aren't even close right now. 

[Coltsman1788]

Not until they field a team capable of rolling with the Steelers and Pats.  We aren't even close right now. 

[GwinnettColt]

Tighten the O-line through personnel and coaching.

 

Get a pass rusher.  Replace Toler.  

 

Then, I'd think we were close, but as 1788 said, we won't win until we are able to beat Pittsburgh and NE.  

[wig]

I think so. I just don't see multiple championships with them. 

[crazycolt1]

8 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Not until they field a team capable of rolling with the Steelers and Pats.  We aren't even close right now. 

Even with all the problems the Colts had this season they give the Patriots all they wanted. The beat an undefeated Bronco team and took Carolina into over time. You are wrong with your comment IMO.

[Nesjan3]

A top tier DC would be a start, we need a workhorse RB to carry the ball 20-30 times a game, replace Toler, we need to nail the next 2 drafts and aquire a pass rush and few secondary pieces, but mainly drafting OLINE.

[masterlock]

Or to put it another way, can the Colts win despite being handicapped by Grigson? Yes, but they'll need better position coaches, better schemes and better play-calling. These things are still under their control, even with Grigson at the helm.

 

They'll also have to hope Grigson quits blowing 1st round picks, quits meddling in coaching, quits meddling in line-up decisions, and starts getting it right more often than not on free agent signings. 

[BOTT]

39 minutes ago, lester said:

 

We all thought Trent was the right thing to do. All of us. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

The logic on Dorsett is understood. Might not be the choice many of us would make, but the logic is sound.

 

Intelligence is not Grigson's problem.

Not even close to "all of us"

[esmort]

48 minutes ago, lester said:

 

We all thought Trent was the right thing to do. All of us. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

The logic on Dorsett is understood. Might not be the choice many of us would make, but the logic is sound.

 

Intelligence is not Grigson's problem.

 

Plenty of people (including me) hated the trade from day 1 ... I don't know what forum you were reading. 

[Coltsman1788]

34 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Even with all the problems the Colts had this season they give the Patriots all they wanted. The beat an undefeated Bronco team and took Carolina into over time. You are wrong with your comment IMO.

They played the Pats tough this year for the first time in several years.  Yet they still found a way to lose to them as is their habit.  Who cares about Denver? Colts have never had any problems beating that team.  They are not the nemesis that Pittsburgh and New England is to this team.  Until the Colts can actually beat them they won't be legitimate Super Bowls threats anytime soon. 

[Nilescolt]

No they can't. Why , after last nights kiss and make up session it's painfully obvious the office is disfunctional. They come out and blame mediocrity on greesy being a big meany and chucky just to much of a punk to deal with it. What I don't understand is why you people were not totally embarrassed by that show . 19 is spinning in his grave. Look at these pinheads record 90% of wins was just barely and 90% of loses were blow outs. Now we got to live through this embarrassing mess. 

[colts_100nascar17fan]

No way,no how. I don't buy the whole grigs n pags kiss and made up. I think Sean Payton said he wasn't interested in the job and he was the guy irsay wanted and when that was unrealistic he then tried to fend the fences and keep both. I bet they both have contracts full of clauses  so they can be rid of without paying any remaining money.

[ricker182]

48 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Even with all the problems the Colts had this season they give the Patriots all they wanted. The beat an undefeated Bronco team and took Carolina into over time. You are wrong with your comment IMO.

He's so very wrong.   

This team is very close.   

Just need to get more consistent on offense. 

[cgi4life]

Yes they can, this team is not that far away.

[GoColtsWin]

2 hours ago, Pacergeek said:

You think trading a first round pick for Richardson is the work of a smart person? You think drafting Phillip Dorsett in the first round was the work of a bright individual? You must have very low intelligence standards bro

It's not like the man has all of the answers. I'll have to put my faith in his ability to get better, and the fact Mr. Irsay kept these men together, is enough for me at the moment. Considering they get paid by persons much smarter than we are as fans. JMO

[jvan1973]

Lots of people said dungy couldn't win one,    until he did.       Seeing into the future isn't a trait I possess.  Time will tell

[LockeDown]

20 minutes ago, Nilescolt said:

No they can't. Why , after last nights kiss and make up session it's painfully obvious the office is disfunctional. They come out and blame mediocrity on greesy being a big meany and chucky just to much of a punk to deal with it. What I don't understand is why you people were not totally embarrassed by that show . 19 is spinning in his grave. Look at these pinheads record 90% of wins was just barely and 90% of loses were blow outs. Now we got to live through this embarrassing mess. 

 

19 was mad at the move and supported the Ravens, so I doubt it.

[ColtsBlueFL]

8 minutes ago, colts_100nascar17fan said:

I bet they both have contracts full of clauses  so they can be rid of without paying any remaining money.

 

Nope, no coach or GM would accept such a deal.  it has to be guaranteed.  There can (and likely will be) offset language, but nobody will accept a non guaranteed coaching contract, or one full of clauses that would allow an owner to fire for 'just cause 'on about any issue, small or large.  TrVth.

[LockeDown]

Doesn't anyone remember Cam Newton (not so long ago) sitting on the bench with a towel over his head pouting after another loss?   Everyone in the media was on his case....now look at him.   Things can change quick in the NFL and we can as well.

[Malakai432]

If Luck is 100% healthy and stops turning the ball over along with a solid amount of added talent via FA and the draft I personally think they can.  A lot of work needs to be done but hopefully this supposed "rift issue," will be cleaned up.  However if the Colts have injures like they did, no they won't even have a chance with the injures sustained this season.  

[Nilescolt]

9 minutes ago, LockeDown said:

 

19 was mad at the move and supported the Ravens, so I doubt it.

I stand corrected he is laughing just like everybody else in the league 

[2006Coltsbestever]

I think we can win the SB with this regime. Just need to get a little younger, get better on the O.Line, and get a good Pass Rusher in the Draft. We were just 1 game away from the SB last season and had we played anyone else other than the Pats we would've won the Conference IMO. Ravens would've had to come here and we usually beat them no matter how good they are.

[BOTT]

26 minutes ago, ricker182 said:

He's so very wrong.   

This team is very close.   

Just need to get more consistent on offense. 

That bottom ranked defense is their strong suit?

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 minutes ago, LockeDown said:

Doesn't anyone remember Cam Newton (not so long ago) sitting on the bench with a towel over his head pouting after another loss?   Everyone in the media was on his case....now look at him.   Things can change quick in the NFL and we can as well.

That's what I keep saying too. Panthers were 7-8-1 last season and now are 15-1.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, BOTT said:

That bottom ranked defense is their strong suit?

Yeah we really need a dominant Pass Rusher not just a good one. That would make a world of difference.

[GoColtsWin]

As the OP stated, time will tell. I believe they can. Cannot underestimate continuity. 

[crazycolt1]

54 minutes ago, Nilescolt said:

I stand corrected he is laughing just like everybody else in the league 

A few is not everybody. Now you are corrected.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

If Luck straightens out and our division does not improve as much as I think it will, possibly we can get lucky one season and get hot in playoffs with Luck carrying the team on his shoulders.

But to dominate year in & out and multiple super bowls ? NO!!!

[crazycolt1]

1 hour ago, colts_100nascar17fan said:

No way,no how. I don't buy the whole grigs n pags kiss and made up. I think Sean Payton said he wasn't interested in the job and he was the guy irsay wanted and when that was unrealistic he then tried to fend the fences and keep both. I bet they both have contracts full of clauses  so they can be rid of without paying any remaining money.

 No way are there 'clauses" in their contracts or they wouldn't have signed them. What you seen not to understand is both Pagano and Grigson would have had jobs real quick had they been fired. It is some of the fan base who think all the negative and follow * media hounds looking to sell their articles.

[Synthetic]

 

Absolutely not. But they should win another AFC South division title, and not be a Division title participant next year, since it is the worst division in the entire league, when an 8-8 Colts team nearly could have took it if Houston didn't get their stuff together.