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16 hours ago, bozo said:

Pagano said on the Monday night game after this he is done coaching.  I realize people change their minds so we'll see if he coaches again.  

 

Nice guys finish last! He is to soft to be a good coach in the NFL. I wish him well, however I don`t want a clap your hands puddy cat! I want a dog that barks!

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9 minutes ago, MPStack said:

 

Nice guys finish last! He is to soft to be a good coach in the NFL. I wish him well, however I don`t want a clap your hands puddy cat! I want a dog that barks!

Dick Vermeil was often a very emotional coach who got teared up after games and he coached in 2 SB's and won 1. Chucks primary problems are he don't have the experience nor the game management skills needed yet of many other HC's

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On 1/1/2016 at 5:43 AM, crazycolt1 said:

A lot in here think a new coach will be the answer to the Colts problems. Not even close. Sad thing is the Colts over achieved for 3 years and when reality set in, heads must roll to make some feel good. I have been saying it all along, be careful of what you wish for. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Colts went even farther down before rising back. IMO the Colts problems have not been made worse by Chuck.

 

While I feel it is time to try a new HC, I do think that one of Pagano's strengths is that he for the most part has been able to get the players to perform at a high level. So I agree on the over achieving part, that is why is new HC wont necessarily bring better times - unless he is of very high caliber. Pagano isn't a coach genius, but did he has to be, if he instead have had some of the very best DC and OC in the game to help him out? That is worth thinking about, but I understand that ultimately it was his responsibility to get the right coaching staff to help him out where his had his weaknesses.

 

He did get a assistance head coach in Chud along the way to help him out and a proper OC once Pep was fired, but we has all seen what Bruce Adrian was able to do on his own the first year, so I'm ready to try something new. But I did NOT feel good about a gamble on a new DC/OC that may or may not be a future HC star.

 

Grigson? He has his own hashtag now, #firegrigson

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I feel bad for Chuck, for reasons described above, but mostly because the dude was barely out of the hospital and apparently Grigson was already interfering with his ability to coach.  It just isn't right.  We're chanting "Chuckstrong" and Grigson is undermining him while we do it.

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9 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said:

Not sure if any were watching but Cowher just said he thinks Pags should stay.

I can't believe a former coach said a coach should keep his job./sarcasm.  That boob Cowher probably just advised Irsay on who should replace Pagano.

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Just now, BOTT said:

I can't believe a former coach said a coach should keep is job.  That boob Cowher probably just advised Irsay on who should replace Pagano.

That boob? That man knows more about running a football team than you, me, and anyone else in this forum, combined. Don't be pouty just because he has a dissenting opinion.

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2 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said:

That boob? That man knows more about running a football team than you, me, and anyone else in this forum, combined. Don't be pouty just because he has a dissenting opinion.

Ok. Let's just agree with anything a former coach, player, GM says.  Should be a fun forum.

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8 minutes ago, GwinnettColt said:

Let Grigson go and keep Pagano.  Add a new DC and give Pagano more control over player positions and input on FA and draft picks. 

 

Grigson failed at our O-line and improving our pass rush.

 

I have to agree Grigson failed to provide the basics, like an O-line, and therefore he needs to go.  Pagano can only work with the players he is given.  The current situation kinda reminds me of the year Manning missed, not enough talent on the O-line.  Who's fault is the lack of talent?  Grigson, he is the one negotiating with the players, not Pagano.

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