Is Sio Moore in the dog house or something?

[RockThatBlue]

McNary was horrible today, Sio I don't think saw a single snap today. He's barely played this year, I don't get why he's not playing more.

[Bravo]

Sio was out there for a couple plays here and there. 

This team obviously had coaching and game management problems.

[VaAllDay757]

Mcnary been trash whenever moore is out there he's very good so why not keep snaps coming? We need better coaches and soon after the season is over

[Freenyfan102]

The season is over

[ALL BLUE]

Just amazing to me that year after year the D iis not improved.

[MTC]

Sio played for some portion of the game mostly as a blitzing linebacke.r

[DougDew]

The D stunk because Toler and Freeman were out, despite popular opinion.

[RockThatBlue]

4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

The D stunk because Toler and Freeman were out, despite popular opinion.

Defense wasn't bad because Toler was out. He would have added nothing today. Freeman is clearly better than McNary, but almost anybody would have been better than McNary today. 

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, LuckIsAwesome said:

Defense wasn't bad because Toler was out. He would have added nothing today. Freeman is clearly better than McNary, but almost anybody would have been better than McNary today. 

Nah.  Toler's a good CB.  Jax WRs aren't that good and Toler is way better than Brown.

[RockThatBlue]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Nah.  Toler's a good CB.  Jax WRs aren't that good and Toler is way better than Brown.

No he's not good. And the jags WRs might not be elite, but Robinson and Hurns are far from "not good" 

[DougDew]

23 minutes ago, LuckIsAwesome said:

No he's not good. And the jags WRs might not be elite, but Robinson and Hurns are far from "not good" 

They're good enough to where Toler would have been a better option than Brown.  So his absence was felt.  Toler is fine, but a younger upgrade is certainly desirable.

[GwinnettColt]

The D looked lost in the second half.  Could they have been outcoached?

[Malakai432]

3 hours ago, bravo4460 said:

Sio was out there for a couple plays here and there. 

This team obviously had coaching and game management problems.

 

Shocker!!!!!

[Mjølner]

Didn't he, at least on paper, start? Anyone have a snap count we could take a look at?

[Defjamz26]

Just now, LuckIsAwesome said:

No he's not good. And the jags WRs might not be elite, but Robinson and Hurns are far from "not good" 

Robinson is on Moncrief's level. Hurns is like a poor mans AJ mixed with Darick Rodgers.

They're a very solid WR duo. The only not good WR on that team is Marquis Lee.

[needanoline63]

4 hours ago, DougDew said:

Nah.  Toler's a good CB.  Jax WRs aren't that good and Toler is way better than Brown.

You know that they are the top receiving duo in the NFL as far as yards and touchdowns?!?

[needanoline63]

Toler sucks, the whole defense does, including mike Adams and lowery. We need a new coach and GM. End of story

[DougDew]

11 minutes ago, needanoline63 said:

You know that they are the top receiving duo in the NFL as far as yards and touchdowns?!?

So I guess them having success against our D, and our starting CB hurt, would not be evidence that our defense sucks.  It would be expected.

I'm confused.

I was just merely raising the point that one reason the D got scored on was that Toler was out.  But I guess people on this forum assume that Toler is so bad that even when he is sitting on the bench hurt, he still should be blamed.

[jchandler7]

2 hours ago, DougDew said:

So I guess them having success against our D, and our starting CB hurt, would not be evidence that our defense sucks.  It would be expected.

I'm confused.

I was just merely raising the point that one reason the D got scored on was that Toler was out.  But I guess people on this forum assume that Toler is so bad that even when he is sitting on the bench hurt, he still should be blamed.

The Cots are better off with Toler on the bench.

[jchandler7]

I brought up the same point in another thread about Sio, Its insane that Mcnary got the number of snaps that he did. Sio is definatley the better athlete, Mcnarry missed way to many tackles.

[chrisfarley]

Moore will contribute in spurts like today - heavy pass rush downs, etc.  The coaches know when and when not to use him.  I'm guessing there is a learning curve and he hasn't quite got the plays down yet (or there is something we don't know keeping him in a throttled down usage mode).

[bap1331]

Im thinking grigson is part of the patriots mafia. Designing the colts team to make sure no one gets in the patriots way.

[lennymoore24]

The only thing McNary can do is a good straight ahead A gap blitzer.  He hits hard.  But he is always out of position just playing the run or pass.  Terrible. I would use Moore or Herrera over him.

[needanoline63]

3 hours ago, DougDew said:

So I guess them having success against our D, and our starting CB hurt, would not be evidence that our defense sucks.  It would be expected.

I'm confused.

I was just merely raising the point that one reason the D got scored on was that Toler was out.  But I guess people on this forum assume that Toler is so bad that even when he is sitting on the bench hurt, he still should be blamed.

Yes toler is that bad

[UKColt13]

The season is in the ground, the fat lady has sung.

Plus, Grigson seems to have a thing for McNary, although I cant quite see it. Liability in coverage, not brilliant against the run.

[CoachLite]

I think Sio Moore's limited playing time was a coach's indecision.

[Dustin]

14 hours ago, DougDew said:

Nah.  Toler's a good CB.  Jax WRs aren't that good and Toler is way better than Brown.

 

Why do people still cape for Toler?

[BrentMc11]

7 hours ago, lennymoore24 said:

The only thing McNary can do is a good straight ahead A gap blitzer.  He hits hard.  But he is always out of position just playing the run or pass.  Terrible. I would use Moore or Herrera over him.

More So on the pass than the run Lenny.  I would have used Moore, but not Herrera yesterday.  I do think Herrera will be good next season.

[Defjamz26]

This team is regressing. We're going back to the days where this team refused to play the best talent. I thought we were over that, but I was wrong.

 

The coaching staff is just as soft as the team. 

[krunk]

I'm getting sick of Manusky more and more as of late.  Jalil Brown playing over Djoun Smith, Mcnary playing over Moore.  What is our obsession with making sure these UDFAs see the field over more talented players?

[lollygagger8]

17 hours ago, DougDew said:

The D stunk because Toler and Freeman were out, despite popular opinion.

[#GOGA]

Moore only played 8 snaps. I have no idea why so your guess is as good as mine.

[bap1331]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

I'm getting sick of Manusky more and more as of late.  Jalil Brown playing over Djoun Smith, Mcnary playing over Moore.  What is our obsession with making sure these UDFAs see the field over more talented players?

 

It might not be manusky. It's probably grigson. He's controlling the starters too.