Manziel loses his starting job for being a knucklehead. .... again

[jvan1973]

I'm so shocked. Partying on his bye week on video. The guy will never learn

He is now the third string qb.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2015/11/24/johnny-manziel-video-cleveland-mike-pettine/76314398/

[ColtRider]

This after Manziel was officially made starter this past week by Pettine. He promises Pettine he'd have a "quiet" weekend.

Stupidity at it's best.

[Clem-Dog]

All signs point to Josh taking over and rightfully so. When healthy he has been very good at times.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I am glad we have Andrew! and not these other knucklehead young QB's.

[CR91]

some people are just born to be i-d-i-o-t-s

[shakedownstreet]

i wanna party like i'm johnny manziel! 

[RockThatBlue]

What a shame. He doesn't have it between the ears.

[shakedownstreet]

this happened to me when my sex tapes went viral

[NewColtsFan]

If Manziel is an alcoholic, and that's what the signs are pointing to,  then this is NOT a "between the ears" or "*" issue.

 

It's not like a smart guy would get it and a dumb guy wouldn't.      That's not the way alcoholism works.........

[jvan1973]

If Manziel is an alcoholic, and that's what the signs are pointing to, then this is NOT a "between the ears" or "*" issue.

It's not like a smart guy would get it and a dumb guy wouldn't. That's not the way alcoholism works.........

You also have to admit and want help. They're plenty of addicts who manage their addictions, but you have to want it fixed first. That is IF he is an alcoholic. I don't know him, I don't know if c that's the case or not

[RockThatBlue]

If Manziel is an alcoholic, and that's what the signs are pointing to, then this is NOT a "between the ears" or "*" issue.

It's not like a smart guy would get it and a dumb guy wouldn't. That's not the way alcoholism works.........

I get your point. But drinking in front of a camera rolling while your team is practically begging you to not drink, or do anything stupid, isn't exactly a smart thing to do.

[ColtRider]

You also have to admit and want help. They're plenty of addicts who manage their addictions, but you have to want it fixed first. That is IF he is an alcoholic. I don't know him, I don't know if c that's the case or not

Either way, Maziel has no business being an NFL QB if his team cannot rely on him. It's amazing to me. I guess he really has a hard time determining the fact that the position he holds as an NFL QB, which is very rare in this world, can coincide with all the antics of his past, present, and future. I just don't get it. Maybe he does ... in an unrealistic privileged kind of way.

[Colts_Fan12]

Knew this was coming he is just dumb like many other players who would rather get drunk or high then make millions in the NFL

[Superman]

You also have to admit and want help. They're plenty of addicts who manage their addictions, but you have to want it fixed first. That is IF he is an alcoholic. I don't know him, I don't know if c that's the case or not

 

IF he's not, and they're treating him like he is -- benching him for drinking -- that's a little unfair, IMO. But it would seem like he'd just not drink if he knew that was the standard he's being held to.

[jvan1973]

IF he's not, and they're treating him like he is -- benching him for drinking -- that's a little unfair, IMO. But it would seem like he'd just not drink if he knew that was the standard he's being held to.

I think they probably told him to cool it, or they are moving on.

[teganslaw]

Manziel was in rehab, although I don't know the reason; it could have been alcohol or some emotional problem. He clearly is held to a certain standard. Maybe too much is expected of him, but he should realize that it's the way things are when you're a #1 draft pick in the NFL. He just doesn't seem to take his NFL career seriously.

[Superman]

I think they probably told him to cool it, or they are moving on.

 

If he knew they didn't want him to drink/party, and he did it anyway, then maybe he does have a problem with addiction. That's my nonprofessional opinion, of course.

 

But I think people have pegged him as an alcoholic because he went to rehab, but that's a leap in logic. I don't know why he went to rehab, and I don't know that abstinence from alcohol is part of his treatment. 

[jvan1973]

If he knew they didn't want him to drink/party, and he did it anyway, then maybe he does have a problem with addiction. That's my nonprofessional opinion, of course.

But I think people have pegged him as an alcoholic because he went to rehab, but that's a leap in logic. I don't know why he went to rehab, and I don't know that abstinence from alcohol is part of his treatment.

Abstinence from alcohol is part of any addiction treatment.

[shakedownstreet]

Abstinence from alcohol is part of any addiction treatment.

 

more often than not, yes. just "partying" alone puts him back in that environment regardless of his specific issue

[ColtsBTM12]

The Browns traded up to draft this guy in the first round due to years of QB mediocrity and they won't even put him on the field? I don't get it. He likes to party, that's who he is, the Browns should have known this long before they decided to draft him. I'm not a Manziel fan, but I just don't get why they don't give him a chance when they have invested so much in him. It makes no sense from an organizational standpoint.

[21isSuperman]

this happened to me when my sex tapes went viral

Keep your head up.  Kim Kardashian managed to handle her situation well.

[RockThatBlue]

Manziel apparently tried saying its an old video from a year ago, while the song he was rapping to came out this year.

[Superman]

Abstinence from alcohol is part of any addiction treatment.

 

I'll have to take your word for it.

[jvan1973]

I'll have to take your word for it.

Yeah, unfortunately for me I've been down that road. It's not easy and can't be fixed without complete commitment.

[OhioColtsGirl]

Manziel makes a promise to the Browns not to be an embarrassment during the Bye and was anyhow. It's clear that Manziel has a definite substance abuse problem because he just doesn't get it. This is a guy who spent the offseason in rehab. Why is he even drinking to begin with? Sounds like rehab didn't work...

[oldunclemark]

Its sad..He had the job...His team was behind him..

..and there's the incident with the girlfriend and now partying with the booze and the honeys.

I have to agree with most here. He cant help it. He cant stop.

The fact that he willfully or uncontrollably went back to the behavior he was ordered/begged to stop..

..means he's got to move on..,,He's done with the Browns

[Superman]

Yeah, unfortunately for me I've been down that road. It's not easy and can't be fixed without complete commitment.

 

Didn't mean to personalize, was just saying that I don't know one way or the other. But makes sense.

 

Good for you to have come through it. 

 

Edit: I also wonder whether he's still in treatment. Not trying to excuse anything, I just think there are a lot of unknown facts. The Browns obviously have a lot more information than we do, and they're taking the stance they're taking, so... it's probably not relevant.

[JPPT1974]

He really has worn out his welcome with not just the Browns but with the NFL!

[TKnight24]

some people are just born to be i-d-i-o-t-s

I am glad we have Andrew! and not these other knucklehead young QB's.

so it's a problem when he dances, there's no alcohol or nothing proven in the video/photo but dancing. It's a problem when he does it, making him an *

But when NFL network shows that Gronk video of him partying after the super bowl loss it's acceptable? Come on man

[Superman]

so it's a problem when he dances, there's no alcohol or nothing proven in the video/photo but dancing. It's a problem when he does it, making him an *

But when NFL network shows that Gronk video of him partying after the super bowl loss it's acceptable? Come on man

 

QBs are held to a different standard than TEs.

[csmopar]

I'm so shocked. Partying on his bye week on video. The guy will never learn

He is now the third string qb.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2015/11/24/johnny-manziel-video-cleveland-mike-pettine/76314398/

You know what I call this....KARMA....this is karma for fleecing the Colts with the T"imtoofat"Rich trade

[csmopar]

so it's a problem when he dances, there's no alcohol or nothing proven in the video/photo but dancing. It's a problem when he does it, making him an *

But when NFL network shows that Gronk video of him partying after the super bowl loss it's acceptable? Come on man

Gronk also doesn't have a discipline history and a addiction history.

[Jules]

this happened to me when my sex tapes went viral

 

 

[Surge89]

Take it from someone who lives in Texas. This kid has and always will be an entitled problem to society. It's just the way the Manziel's are. In the west and south Texas oilfield the mentality with that family is akin to that of a mob boss. Don't mess with the Manziel family or else...

The only reason you haven't heard 3/4ths of his high school shenanigans is because his family owns literally everything in his part of Texas.

[2006Coltsbestever]

 Hey I just spit my drink of beer out in laughter!

[southwest1]

This after Manziel was officially made starter this past week by Pettine. He promises Pettine he'd have a "quiet" weekend.

Stupidity at it's best.

That's my whole problem with this: Johnny has no idea what being a professional means & he embarrassed his owner & head coach. 

 

Clearly, Mr. Manziel will need a few more rounds of rehab before things change for the better. Substance abuse is not an easy obstacle to break the cycle of for some individuals. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

so it's a problem when he dances, there's no alcohol or nothing proven in the video/photo but dancing. It's a problem when he does it, making him an *

But when NFL network shows that Gronk video of him partying after the super bowl loss it's acceptable? Come on man

Huge difference. Johnny has an alcohol problem and has been in treatment + he's the face of the Browns and a QB. Gronk hasn't had any problems with alcohol that has got him in trouble and he isn't the face of the Patriots.

[RockThatBlue]

so it's a problem when he dances, there's no alcohol or nothing proven in the video/photo but dancing. It's a problem when he does it, making him an *

But when NFL network shows that Gronk video of him partying after the super bowl loss it's acceptable? Come on man

Gronk doesn't have a known drug problem.

[ReMeDy]

this happened to me when my sex tapes went viral

 

I posted a picture to imgur, and now it's all over Yahoo with captions saying, "Millionaires HATE this man. Learn his secret."

(not really)

[southwest1]

He really has worn out his welcome with not just the Browns but with the NFL!

Exactly JPPT & if the Browns don't want you, how much lower can Johnny go? The 49ers? The Eagles? His NFL prospects look mighty grim now.  

 

I'm surprised Manziel wasn't partying with Aldon Smith. My bad.