Jets waive OLB Quinton Coples

[Iancolts]

Grigson is late again!!

[Jason_]

Grigson is late again!!

Here's a thought...try finding out the facts before ranting. The Dolphins Claimed Coples off waivers. The dolphins are 4-6, which is worse than the colts record of 5-5, which I believe gives them priority on the waiver wire. If that is true then grigson was not late for anything.

[jvan1973]

Grigson is late again!!

Do you understand how the waiver process works?

[ColtsBlueFL]

Well, as long as he doesn't get injured lol.

 

True, would have been, but only until first game next year.  Hopefully he would not have a season ending injury in the offseason.  Once season begins and player gets hurt, he can't be cut, unless they all agree on an injury settlement first.

[OffensivelyPC]

True, would have been, but only until first game next year. Hopefully he would not have a season ending injury in the offseason. Once season begins and player gets hurt, he can't be cut, unless they all agree on an injury settlement first.

I'm not sure you understand how this works. Assuming we pick up his contract, we owe him nothing unless he gets injured or he plays.. His salary gets paid per game (i.e.base salary/16).if he plays one game, he gets 1/16 of his salary. If he gets injured in that game, we owe it all. If he sucks, we can cut him and owe nothing else (i.e his contract isn't owed for performance). So, his contract being guaranteed against injury means nothing if he plays a few weeks and gets cut for being bad.

[LucasOilStadium]

Dolphins signed Quinton Coples off the waiver wire.

[ColtsBlueFL]

I'm not sure you understand how this works. Assuming we pick up his contract, we owe him nothing unless he gets injured or he plays.. His salary gets paid per game (i.e.base salary/16).if he plays one game, he gets 1/16 of his salary. If he gets injured in that game, we owe it all. If he sucks, we can cut him and owe nothing else (i.e his contract isn't owed for performance). So, his contract being guaranteed against injury means nothing if he plays a few weeks and gets cut for being bad.

 

In this exact case, too many unknowns. If he gets hurt game one, he gets it all, but you get him back when healthy.  There's no recourse to cut him for performance, I understand that. If he is out all year, no biggie because if any player that is on your team gets seriously injured in game one and is considered truly out for the year, he also gets paid full salary.  No way out of it. You can't cut injured players to save salary or reduce salary cap hit because a guy got hurt on the job.  Doesn't matter whether there was language guaranteed for injury or not in his contract.  These are CBA items.

 

"An injured player gets paid for as long as he's unable to play, no matter what his contract says. A team can't release an injured player until he's cleared."  "If a player gets hurt doing a football-related activity, he's covered, no matter when it happens. So if he tears his anterior cruciate ligament in a May minicamp, he's covered." "There are also injury settlements, which must be agreed to within five days of a player being placed on injured reserve. Say a player suffers a sprained ankle in training camp and it's a three-week injury. The team can pay him for those three weeks, then release him. That player is eligible to return to that team after the number of weeks the settlement was for (in this case, three), plus another six weeks. So he would be eligible to return in any capacity by Week 10. That six-week "tax" is put in place so teams can't stash players by saying they're injured. If a player suffers an injury doing something unrelated to football (typically), he's placed on the reserve/non-football injury list. It's at the discretion of the team whether the player is paid."

 

And so the guys salary was guaranteed for injury, does that include any activity and even in the off season?  I'll bet there is language concerning that as well. I / we just don't know what it is.  So, to me, it is still no biggie.  If a team (like Dolphins) feel he is worth the 5th year option pay, you pick him up and see how much production you can get, this year and next. If he, and another team mate both tear the ACL in game one in 2016, both will get full salary for being on IR.