Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

Are All These "experts" Who Say Andrew Luck Is The Next Great Thing The Same Guys Who Said Cam Newton Would Be A Complete Bust?

Recommended Posts

There could be plenty of back ups in a few weeks. Besides, Dan Orlovsky proved himself a capable back up, given the circumstances. Also, I would bet my house that another QB taken in this draft will end up better than Luck. Simply because QB's can come from anywhere: Brady, Brees, Montana, Young (who was a supplemental draftee), Favre, more recently Dalton.... There are a lot of QB's who end up better than the 1st overall pick, and in every instance, those QB's were not nearly as hyped as the QB who did go off the board first.

Our DT's were injured, so of course they didn't help. Apparently our GM didn't let our DC do what he wanted to either. Proven NFL QB's wouldn't have come in and get more than 5-6 wins with this team. If QB's mean everything, why do the Ravens always get into the playoffs? Why do the Steelers get by with a QB that averages 3 INT's per playoff game? How is it that St. Louis only won two games with Bradford after his fantastic rookie season? How did Tim Tebow, and anybody from Oakland manage to have the same record as Philip Rivers in San Diego?

The game is pass-heavy, but systems lend themselves better than QB's right now. We have watched two different back up QB's play in place of Rodgers the last two seasons, and both have been close (at New England last year), or put on a performance better than Rodgers himself ever has (last game against Detroit this year). We witnessed as Cassel won 11 games in New England, and got better as the season wore on. Peyton Manning is, and has always been, the only exception to this rule. That's what makes him unique. He wins against impossible odds; he makes something from nothing.

If Luck doesn't have an amazing system and/or talent around him, he will be as mediocre as the rest of them. Also, he's not the "best" prospect in 20 years; he's just got the most media around him. He wasn't even the best player in college football this year (no, I'm not talking about the Heisman). The sheer volume of publicity outlets available to him only perpetuates that. He's going to be viewed as a colossal failure when, as is likely, he doesn't live up to this hype.

Danny O beat 2 teams who couldn't put up points then lost to another team who couldn't put up points either.

There isn't a qb in this draft that I personally think will be better. You said luck needs weapons to be good? Name one WR or TE from Stanford. You can't cause they aren't very good. He makes everyone around him better. He was the best qb in college. He won the maxwell and Walter camp award. I also believe he won them both last year as well. He also was runner up to the Heisman twice. There are draft experts saying he is the best qb prospect in 20 years, thats why he has the most media around him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 80
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I think Watson will get some kind of suspension. Zeke got 6 games and was never charged for a criminal crime and that was with 1 girl. I still bet it will be 8 games at worse. I originally predicted 8 games once it came out that no criminal charges would be filed. It could still even be a year. It will be interesting to see how this ends.
    • Don't forget this Sunday's game on Fox 59 at 7:30 pm I think!
    • Im sorry I’m responding a little late….   But I took the time to re-view the 25 minute Luck press conference, and the 25 minute conference from Irsay, Ballard and Reich.    Luck says his final decision was made roughly 10-14 days before the announcement, and the execs say they knew 7-10 days ahead and the week leading up to the game was filled with almost daily conversations.  I don’t know where you got that the front office found out “that day.”    I’ve never seen that claim made by anyone else here, and there’s been plenty of mis-information put out there about Luck.    Also….  Luck didn’t participate in any team activities the entire off-season.   Zero in the Spring.   Zero in training camp.  At the presser Ballard talked about the strange off-season saying Luck ended the 2018 season feeling pretty good, then something happened at the Pro Bowl that no one could pin down.  Ankle sprain?   High ankle sprain? Shin?    No one knew.   So the team knew something was up.     Ultimately, Luck did a bad job at his press conference explaining things, and the media did a poor job of getting enough details to write a good story so people could understand.    But I’d add, that no one in the Colts seems angry with Luck.   Not Irsay, or Ballard, or Reich, or players.   No one.    Yet people here think Luck screwed the team.   A guy driven to do the right thing all his life, and yet fans here are convinced he did the wrong thing.   I confess that disappoints me.   It’s as if people never learned anything about Andrew Luck beyond his wins and losses.  I find that sad….  
    • Like most surface fans? Not sure what kind of shot ur trying to take here but okay. As for the points, there aren't really any intelligble ones to respond to. In both instances Wentz gives the ball to the other team at the very end of the game. In both TEN matchups. Also, in those specific plays there were checkdowns available.    Reich kind of took blame for one, saying he shouldn't of called a TE screen so close to the end zone. But I guess i'm just a surface fan, even though I consistently talk on a colts fan forum, frequent multiple other sites where many people post a plethora of uncensored opinions about the colts, attend games frequently, and I understand football more than most casual people.    I don't sit on the board and pretend to speak some scheme specific terminology, but I know what football looks like. And with that being said, it is easy for anyone to see that Wentz consistently put our defense in bad positions, and tried to play hero ball despite not being very good at it.  As for how that applies to this specific thread; I think having a more sensible QB on the roster will make our Oline look a lot better.    Also, as i've stated multiple times, I do recognize our offensive line had issues. However, that doesn't takeaway the reality of 2sprainz and the type of game he wanted to play, even at the cost of his own team. 
  • Members

    • 2006Coltsbestever

      2006Coltsbestever 29,215

      Senior Member
      Last active:
    • Mr. Irrelevant

      Mr. Irrelevant 456

      Senior Member
      Last active:
    • NewColtsFan

      NewColtsFan 14,084

      Senior Member
      Last active:
    • Gyworks

      Gyworks 13

      Last active:
    • Hooch

      Hooch 3

      Last active:
    • jmac_48

      jmac_48 443

      Senior Member
      Last active:
  • Create New...