Andrew Luck OUT

[will426]

I see Andre having a good day

[bababooey]

You just lost all credibility by saying winning makes it all go away and if we brought in a bunch of wife beaters and scum of football it would be okay as long as we won? Where's your morals man? That's such a mind blowing statement.

We are talking about a bully. Not a wife beater or dog killer. They did their time and now are getting cheered for. Doesn't mean I like them but if a guy got caught bullying someone and can protect the most important guy in the organization you know I'll take that.

[NewEra]

I would have signed him. Would of had a incentive laced contract with zero crap. He's a problem, he's gone. But nooooooo we'd rather get bums or guys out of the CFL or some other low level league. But hey, as long as we keep drafting and signing wr's and rb's. Same colts, different GM.

[NewEra]

We are talking about a bully. Not a wife beater or dog killer. They did their time and now are getting cheered for. Doesn't mean I like them but if a guy got caught bullying someone and can protect the most important guy in the organization you know I'll take that.

Yeah and where's that Martin at? It wasn't just Incognito either. They're were all ragging on each other. We're just living in a extremely soft and PC America right now.

[achcolts]

While this obviously sucks, i hope this injury opens irsays eyes about the root cause of this injury and potentially many more to come.. This plus chucks late subliminals

[Coltsman1788]

Could be worse but we are likely staring at a L today with Hasselback in there. With New England in two weeks any L against our AFC South opponents prior to the Pats game will put this team in a tough hole.

[Restored]

People need to stop with this "well Romo got hurt and he's got the best o line ever!!!!11!" talk.

Luck has taken the most hits and sacks every year since he's came into the league. ANY QB taking that amount of hits is likely to get hurt at some point.

[Stoney]

Again, revisionist history. Issues followed him everywhere he went.

And a glowing review from Rex Ryan isn't exactly a clean reputation. He's known not to be a high character guy to begin with.

Ok, what about Iupati and Evan Mathis ??

[2006Coltsbestever]

Smart. It's the Jags here at LOS. It's a precautionary move and the right one IMO. We win this one and then Andrew comes back Thursday. More rest.

[will426]

They're good feed gore heavy trust and believe it oh wait this is peps offense I forgot he doesn't know how to utilize playets

[BlueShoe]

It might be a good idea to sit him out the next 2 games and rely heavily on Frank Gore.

 

My thoughts in another thread:

 

http://forums.colts.com/topic/40963-the-upside-of-taking-the-pressure-off-of-luck/

 

Pound the ball with Frank Gore. Slow the game down for a little while. 

[#12.]

This is the make or break game. If they lose, this will be a completely different organization 4 nonths from now. There won't be a person left standing on this coaching staff or in the front office.

[will426]

It might be a good idea to sit him out the next 2 games and rely heavily on Frank Gore.

My thoughts in another thread:

http://forums.colts.com/topic/40963-the-upside-of-taking-the-pressure-off-of-luck/ I would not sit him for Texans game at all

Pound the ball with Frank Gore. Slow the game down for a little while.

[2006Coltsbestever]

We wont lose. The MRI only showed a bruise so I am not overly worried about his injury. Hasselbeck can handle this. Feed Gore, play smart, and rely on the Defense.

[John Waylon]

Ok, what about Iupati and Evan Mathis ??

 

Are you serious?

 

Have you seen Mathis' play so far this year? He would not be much of an upgrade over what we're currently dealing with, and his insistence that he is worth big money is what led to his ousting from Philly. 

 

And as far as Iupati is concerned, we couldn't afford him. You do realize that we have to pay Luck, Hilton, Costanzo, Fleener, Allen, and several others moving forward right? Paying top guard money isn't really an option. It was in Arizona because other than Fitzgerald, they aren't spending a significant amount of cap on their offensive skill players. 

[John Waylon]

The MRI only showed a bruise so I am not overly worried about his injury.

 

I really hope you don't believe that after all the lies we've been fed since this season started. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

I really hope you don't believe that after all the lies we've been fed since this season started. 

Good point but not sure why that would be a lie, but you never know with the way the media is today

[bababooey]

Are you serious?

Have you seen Mathis' play so far this year? He would not be much of an upgrade over what we're currently dealing with, and his insistence that he is worth big money is what led to his ousting from Philly.

And as far as Iupati is concerned, we couldn't afford him. You do realize that we have to pay Luck, Hilton, Costanzo, Fleener, Allen, and several others moving forward right? Paying top guard money isn't really an option. It was in Arizona because other than Fitzgerald, they aren't spending a significant amount of cap on their offensive skill players.

You realize we are probably not going to re-sign both TEs. Either way I'll take a good guard over more "weapons".

[John Waylon]

Good point but not sure why that would be a lie, but you never know with the way the media is today

 

Unless they got the info from the doctor himself (which is illegal) it had to have come from a team source. I dunno, I just don't buy it. If that was all it was, I think he'd play. If we're going to try to run the ball more, he's going to take less hits and throw less so he could handle that.

 

I'm just hoping this doesn't degenerate into the same thing that we went through when Marvin Harrison was injured where he was supposed to start practicing "this week" every week, and was out until the playoffs and CLEARLY still injured when he came back then.

[bababooey]

Yeah and where's that Martin at? It wasn't just Incognito either. They're were all ragging on each other. We're just living in a extremely soft and PC America right now.

Look who is sitting at home and look who is getting cheered for on his new team. One is a loser and one is succeeding. He's a jerk but he's doing his job. He also learned his lesson.

[GoColts8818]

Well that stinks. Glad it's only a bruise and not something worse.

As for those screaming for Grigson's head these things happen to most QBs at some point. What the Colts had with Manning is very rare in terms of injury. In fact unless you're a Manning brother or Brady most QBs miss a game or two here or there during their careers.

Just be glad it's not a Romo situation (who happens to play behind the best line in football proving injuries happen.).

The line still needs to get better but this is the exact scenario Matt is here for. If he comes out and plays well enough for the Colts to win he's worth every penny the Colts have paid him since they signed him. If Colts struggle and look 2011-ish then that is a bigger problem for Grigson than Luck being hurt.

[John Waylon]

You realize we are probably not going to re-sign both TEs. Either way I'll take a good guard over more "weapons".

 

... You just further proved my point.

 

We're not going to be able to sign them both. 

 

So why would we pay top guard money when we're moving forward not able to pay our own?

 

This isn't Madden. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Unless they got the info from the doctor himself (which is illegal) it had to have come from a team source. I dunno, I just don't buy it. If that was all it was, I think he'd play. If we're going to try to run the ball more, he's going to take less hits and throw less so he could handle that.

 

I'm just hoping this doesn't degenerate into the same thing that we went through when Marvin Harrison was injured where he was supposed to start practicing "this week" every week, and was out until the playoffs and CLEARLY still injured when he came back then.

We will definitely know by Thursday IMO. If Andrew doesn't play Thursday then time to worry.

[sfergson727]

This is on Grigson and his inability to build an offensive live to give Luck the protection he needs and deserves.  Way to go Grigs, hope you are happy.  #dingleberry.

[Moose Of Woe]

So how long will Hasselbeck survive behind that line?

[achcolts]

Im not too worried with hasselbeck simply cause hell just do dinks and dunks which is what pep should have been doing more often with luck

[2006Coltsbestever]

So how long will Hasselbeck survive behind that line?

It is the Jags, not like we are playing a powerhouse. Time for Gore to earn his money. Hasselbeck is adequate. It's not like we are rolling out Painter.

[bababooey]

... You just further proved my point.

We're not going to be able to sign them both.

So why would we pay top guard money when we're moving forward not able to pay our own?

This isn't Madden.

I'm not "proving your point". We don't have to pay top guard money for Incognito who literally has no market for being a league wide pariah. You also don't have to pay Collins if you use a 7th round pick on him. This is what I'm complaining about and why I think he should be fired. protect 12 but only with "horseshoe guys". In the 2015 NFL not many of those guys exist.

[bababooey]

It is the Jags, not like we are playing a powerhouse. Time for Gore to earn his money. Hasselbeck is adequate. It's not like we are rolling out Painter.

He was horrible in the preseason, he's just collecting a check at this point. Smart move on his part.

[#12.]

rely on the Defense.

Now I feel better.

[2006Coltsbestever]

He was horrible in the preseason, he's just collecting a check at this point. Smart move on his part.

We will see I guess. I don't think he is as bad as people think. I realize Andrew not playing isn't good but hopefully we can get this one and hope for the best from here on out.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Now I feel better.

I see no reason why the D wont play good today. Being at home against the Jags.

[John Waylon]

I'm not "proving your point". We don't have to pay top guard money for Incognito who literally has no market for being a league wide pariah. You also don't have to pay Collins if you use a 7th round pick on him. This is what I'm complaining about and why I think he should be fired. protect 12 but only with "horseshoe guys". In the 2015 NFL not many of those guys exist.

 

Use a 7th on a guy being questioned in a murder?

 

He wasn't cleared until after the draft.

 

And then Grigson DID go after him. He signed with Dallas instead. 

 

Or is that somehow Grigson's fault, too?

 

Beat your Incognito drum until your arm falls off. There was only one coach in this league who would give him that chance. 

 

If Ryan hadn't been hired in Buffalo, I'd bet good money Incognito would be sitting on his couch brushing Cheeto dust off his belly right now. 

[NewEra]

Look who is sitting at home and look who is getting cheered for on his new team. One is a loser and one is succeeding. He's a jerk but he's doing his job. He also learned his lesson.

Got that right!! eould have loved him on our team.

[bababooey]

Use a 7th on a guy being questioned in a murder?

He wasn't cleared until after the draft.

And then Grigson DID go after him. He signed with Dallas instead.

Or is that somehow Grigson's fault, too?

Beat your Incognito drum until your arm falls off. There was only one coach in this league who would give him that chance.

If Ryan hadn't been hired in Buffalo, I'd bet good money Incognito would be sitting on his couch brushing Cheeto dust off his belly right now.

LOL @ you. Collins ex was murdered he was not a suspect the police literally wanted to ask him a couple questions. You don't even know what you're talking about. Continue to live in your fantasy world where Grigson is doing his best. If you throw a pick at Collins then he's ours. When he's undrafted everyone has an equal shot at him to offer the same money then he's the one that gets to choose. Doesn't matter if only one coach wanted incognito, he still can play at a high level and not wanting him because he's a bully is so dumb I can't even imagine thinking that way.

[zibby43]

Just saw this on ESPN this morning.

 

I am so mad at this organization.   This is the first time Luck has ever been injured.

 

protect your franchise Irsay! 

 

It's not the first time Luck has been injured.  He sat out a game in college (2009) because of a broken finger.

[Architects08]

Welcome to the 1-3 train

[coltsfanatic24]

At this point I rather sit Luck for the rest of the season and get a top 5 pick. This draft has 4 great defensive prospects. 

[1959Colts]

Looks like we will all be watching the fourth UGLY game in a row. (fifth if you count NE playoff game)

[oldunclemark]

Good decision..we have anotehr gamer Thursday....at Houston..

We'llbe fine....I want all the people who don't think Matt Hasselbeck can play to watch closely starting at 1 p.m.

This temporary...1 game fill-in role for a playoff team is exactly why we got him