Jump to content

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

HtownColt

DeflateGate: Brady suspension expected (mega merge / updated)

Recommended Posts

Doubt there's anything solid enough for punishment.

 

I can assure you there absolutely WILL BE punishment.

 

The only question is.....    just how much?

 

How big a fine?    Will it include draft picks?

 

I don't see anyone, coach or player,  being suspended.

 

But I think the two guys who did this are going to have be fired....   don't think there's a way around it.

 

Hope the players all chip in to give them a nice "severance" package....

 

But there WILL BE punishment.....   of that, I'm certain!     :thmup:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Tom Brady knew? NO that can't be true lol.  Pats up to their cheating ways again.  I don't think anything will come out of it, all tho a suspension should.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Hidden by 21isSuperman, May 6, 2015 - calling out posters
Hidden by 21isSuperman, May 6, 2015 - calling out posters

Where are the Pat posters ? Apologies needed from all but AM and maybe a couple of others

Share this post


Link to post

One text message was after the Oct 17, 2014 game with the Jets. Brady was furious the ball had too much air. Many explicits used.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I should add that I'm very surprised that the NFL is releasing the report,  WITHOUT announcing the punishment?!?

 

What's the point of that?

 

I have so little faith in Goodell and the NFL right now....   seems there's no wide-open lay-up that the league won't completely mess up and miss....          :facepalm:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Hidden by 21isSuperman, May 6, 2015 - response to hidden post
Hidden by 21isSuperman, May 6, 2015 - response to hidden post

Where are the Pat posters ? Apologies needed from all but AM and maybe a couple of others

No we need apologies from them all. Considering she wanted Kensil's head on a pike next to Grigson's.

Share this post


Link to post

 

Referee Walt Anderson's inability to locate the game balls at the start of the game (for the first time in nineteen years) and the breach in  standard pre-game procedure when McNally removed the game balls from the Officials Locker Room without the permission of the referee or other game officials.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fine em a million, take away next year's 1st round pick, Belichek suspended for the year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I should add that I'm very surprised that the NFL is releasing the report,  WITHOUT announcing the punishment?!?

 

What's the point of that?

 

I have so little faith in Goodell and the NFL right now....   seems there's no wide-open lay-up that the league won't completely mess up and miss....          :facepalm:

That is very strange

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

243 page report and for some odd reason I still could not care any less about this. Oh well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Whichever Pats fan got on me for coming to a conclusion before the report came out, well, here you go.

 

If they were innocent it would have come out before the draft.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I should add that I'm very surprised that the NFL is releasing the report,  WITHOUT announcing the punishment?!?

 

What's the point of that?

 

I have so little faith in Goodell and the NFL right now....   seems there's no wide-open lay-up that the league won't completely mess up and miss....          :facepalm:

 

Ummm this happens all the time. The Freeh report was released before Penn States punishment.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I should add that I'm very surprised that the NFL is releasing the report,  WITHOUT announcing the punishment?!?

 

What's the point of that?

 

I have so little faith in Goodell and the NFL right now....   seems there's no wide-open lay-up that the league won't completely mess up and miss....          :facepalm:

As far as I understand, the report was done independently.  The league had an independent person handle the report.  Then they release the report.  Then they have meetings and discussions for what I think will ultimately be a slap on the wrist

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I should add that I'm very surprised that the NFL is releasing the report, WITHOUT announcing the punishment?!?

What's the point of that?

I have so little faith in Goodell and the NFL right now.... seems there's no wide-open lay-up that the league won't completely mess up and miss.... :facepalm:

The report was just released. I'm sure the punishment is forth coming

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As far as I understand, the report was done independently.  The league had an independent person handle the report.  Then they release the report.  Then they have meetings and discussions for what I think will ultimately be a slap on the wrist

Not sure about that

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The report was just released. I'm sure the punishment is forth coming

I will bet you they get a slap on the wrist if that.  Brady should be suspended.  That won't happen though. It'd be like the NBA suspending LeBron

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Follow

Adam SchefterVerified account
‏@AdamSchefter
NFL considering discipline for Tom Brady, locker attendant Jim McNally, equipment asst John Jastremski, per source close to investigation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ummm this happens all the time. The Freeh report was released before Penn States punishment.

 

 

Happens all the time?     I don't think so...

 

Professional sports leagues don't do this.....     and I've noticed that NFL.com has not reported this story at all...

 

Which may mean that ESPN has the breaking news based on a leak...   and the NFL is caught off guard and not prepared.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As far as I understand, the report was done independently.  The league had an independent person handle the report.  Then they release the report.  Then they have meetings and discussions for what I think will ultimately be a slap on the wrist

 

I don't think they can afford to give the Pats a "slap on the wrist.."

 

I also don't think it will go as far as some here want....    but I don't see a slap on the wrist coming at all,  and will be disappointed if that's what the NFL hands down...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think they can afford to give the Pats a "slap on the wrist.."

 

I also don't think it will go as far as some here want....    but I don't see a slap on the wrist coming at all,  and will be disappointed if that's what the NFL hands down...

I feel the same way

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I admit I was pretty outspoken about this from the get-go, and it was never a secret what I thought about all of it.

I came to my own personal conclusion after witnessing Brady's joke of a press conference.

Not sure what, if any punishment will be handed down, but I am glad the report is finally in.

No apologies from me on this one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jez, Mr. Kraft, I'm so sorry that you find this report to be so... Deflating.

 

haha  :lol:  lmao  :Yikes:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
E. Items of Value Received by Jastremski from Brady

Jastremski also has received various items of value from Brady, including in the

months before the AFC Championship Game. Over the years, Brady has recognized Jastremski

for his work with occasional tips and other gifts. In addition to receiving money from a holiday

pool organized by Patriots players, Jastremski believes that he received a supplemental tip of

$1,500 from Brady during the 2014 holiday season and has received $500 in cash or gift cards

from Brady in previous years.

According to Jastremski, he also received from Brady two tickets to a Los

Angeles Lakers game when Jastremski visited Los Angeles a few years ago. Brady vaguely

90

recalls sending Jastremski “in the right direction” through “a contact of a contact of a contact”

for the Lakers tickets, and said that he may have been able to arrange for the tickets for free.

In addition, Brady provided Jastremski with a particularly noteworthy and

valuable autograph on or about October 5, 2014, following the Patriots game against the

Cincinnati Bengals during which Brady became the sixth quarterback in NFL history to exceed

50,000 career passing yards. In text messages, Jastremski described a ball autographed for him

by Brady after the game as “the ball that was used in the game on the play when he passed” the

50,000 yard mark.

 

 

Brady said he didn't know who Jastremski was...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I only took a really quick read through some of the report.  Was there any mention of Belichick's involvement?  I know they said it was highly likely that Brady was involved, but I haven't read anything about Belichick

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think they can afford to give the Pats a "slap on the wrist.."

 

I also don't think it will go as far as some here want....    but I don't see a slap on the wrist coming at all,  and will be disappointed if that's what the NFL hands down...

 

I disagree, if they have no evidence that anyone outside these locker room attendants and a player knew about it, then it's hard to do anything.

 

Only thing they could do is try to suspend Brady.

 

And I doubt they would do that for very long.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Happens all the time?     I don't think so...

 

Professional sports leagues don't do this.....     and I've noticed that NFL.com has not reported this story at all...

 

Which may mean that ESPN has the breaking news based on a leak...   and the NFL is caught off guard and not prepared.

 

The point is this was not an NFL investigation. It was an independent investigation. Freeh released his report before NCAA handed down punishment. Wells released his report before the NFL handed down punishment.

 

Don't forget this wasn't on NFL.com until a day or two after the initial report.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Brady said he didn't know who Jastremski was...

Kraft said he looked forward to an apology from the league for all this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • That might always be the case, but when it's a DII guy who wasn't at the Combine, it's hard to imagine there was a ton of interest in him. Of course, all it takes is one team being in love with him. I'm sure there was another team expecting him to be a UDFA, mad because the Colts took him in the fifth. Get your guy, that's the most important thing.
    • Good point.  I think this has serious merit 
    • My take   1. We overachieved last season. Period 2. We played at KC 3. TY limited the offense because he was so injured.  4. We played a very very good coach with time to prepare and his guys got some rest too and time to scout the team. Remember, Reich is well known to Reid as well by now.  5. Not having Hooker really mattered 6. Play calling was a bit blah 7. How does Vinny automatic miss those kicks? 8. A strip sack for us turns into a strip sack for them a few plays later, that hurt.  9. A young team who wasn’t supposed to be in the playoffs, let alone a second game in the playoffs had some factor here.  10. KC had a pretty good team   my concern from that game would be how poorly our run game was going forward. Kelly better play better than he did this season or I don’t see a 15 million/yr contract coming his way in Indy. I think with a healthy TY, the additions of DF and Cain and Paris and others should really boost that offense. An offense with TY, Paris, Doyle, EE and Mack, now that’s gonna be a tough group to match up with and defend. Run or pass, heck coach, idk what they are doing lol.    Gonna be fun to see this team evolve and have better back ups coming off the bench. I just hope we have enough beef in the middle to stop the run and I just hope that Kelly was hobbled in that KC game because it was one of his worst games that year. 
    • This again boils down to you hanging on to 'this is how it's always been done.' And you don't get that I don't care about that rationale. I think it can be done better. Which is why, in my first post in this thread, I said "to me, it's a no brainer." To me. It should be obvious that this is my stated preference, not me saying that teams that don't do it this way are stupid.   There should be nothing more that I have to say about that, except you continue to rely on that appeal to authority, and I'm telling you that 'how it's always been done' isn't legitimate reason for not examining potential alternatives. Not just in this area, but in everything.      You're missing an important detail, and I think it's because you've put my argument in a box and are unwilling to actually examine it on its merits.   As I said initially, and have said since, my argument is to make this change six months sooner, not six months later. "Imagine if we had fired Grigson in June 2016 instead of January 2017." Did you miss that part, again? What about "if the Texans had waited until January 2020 to fire Gaine..."?    I want him in asap. You want him asap, but not until January.   My statement about it being just one draft is referencing the worst case scenario, which is 'we just blew a draft cycle by letting a lame duck GM stay,' to which I say 'get over it, I'm okay with that if that's what it takes to get the guy I want in the building, with the staff he wants.' And that's where my argument about it potentially being easier to interview candidates in the down season after the draft is critical. The Jets wanted Joe Douglas; he evidently didn't want to entertain a move during draft season, but jumped at it in May/June. (There's the matter of moving his family during the school year, etc.) In theory, this approach could make it easier to interview good candidates. Whether you agree with that or not, whether it's important to you or not, this is mostly an aside. As I said, this was my response to the alarmist reaction of 'they just blew a draft!' Which I think is overstated, especially in the Texans' case.     Not at all. Again, if Ballard started in June 2016, he theoretically could have changed coaches a year sooner.      This is a hindsight fallacy. Go back to the Texans wanting to hire Caserio. I'm not arguing that he's going to be a great GM, I'm arguing that he's the guy they want to hire, and he's available in June. Same for the Jets and Douglas. The Chiefs and Veach.    We know that every person hired doesn't succeed. I never argued that they do. That's true of whoever you rush to hire in January. The point is that there is always a pool of qualified candidates from which to choose. I won't be retracting that, I firmly believe it, and I said it when the Colts were interviewing coaches in 2012, when they interviewed GMs in 2017, and when they interviewed coaches in 2018. You choosing to reject that is pretty ridiculous, to be honest. There are always qualified candidates. Choosing the right one is a different story.   And again, if there's one guy you really, desperately want, why wait until January to get him?     You could give me the benefit of the doubt and assume that if I'm saying it, I mean it. Especially this far into the discussion...    And going back to what I said earlier, this is and always has been my opinion. I'm not offering studies and conclusive evidence to support this opinion because it's a personal preference, it's what I think would be best (although I have offered evidence and rationale to support my opinion, you've just chosen to reject, for reasons I don't agree with).    I'm okay with the disagreement. What I find personally off-putting is the insistence that, because you don't understand my angle, it means I either haven't actually thought it through, or I don't actually believe it. As I said earlier, I understand that general consensus disagrees with my viewpoint, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to conform. The fact that I'm presenting an argument in earnest should be enough.
  • Members

    • egg

      egg 601

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • SilentHill

      SilentHill 2,803

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Nulled

      Nulled 19

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Surge89

      Surge89 965

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Fluke_33

      Fluke_33 804

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Superman

      Superman 34,180

      Moderators
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Lucky Colts Fan

      Lucky Colts Fan 4,696

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • dew5150

      dew5150 110

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • ColtMan

      ColtMan 0

      Rookie
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Chloe6124

      Chloe6124 1,793

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...